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Angel's Unit
Juggernought replied to WarriorZoalord's topic in Guyver Science / General Science Lab Forum
I was saying that Isis..aka the Assassin guyver 4 may be Pariah's daughter -
Lol, well i would say keep the Original G in the regular WG color scheme. I think having his unit looking similar to his old style is a good indication of what he wants out of it but I also think to make another distinct difference from what he was to what he is now is what is needed. Although my second pick would have been 5 with 6 as the last choice...still wait till he gets in action!
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Oh i know about family...just bein 25, married, kid on the way, and newly hired as a pilot flying executives around the caribbean my family is always helping out and they always at the house! Sometimes i just want find a dark corner and hide for an hour and play some video games and come chat on here but life don't work that way. Still i'm glad we all close and thank God everyday for them because i swear, you don't want your pregnant wife harping at you the minute u walk through the door tired from a long day of flying and handling bags and making sure your clients are taken cared of...At least the family takes that particular concern away Family is key, they keep you centered in life, make things interesting and you know you always have them there for support.
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Well i would suggest: Revenge - since there is not much you said need doing and its the easiest to do. So will take only a little time. Then move onto Union as the next step, it covers a lot what happened in the "beginning" basically and will be the story that sets the tone for everything else. After those are done, moving onto something that you really want to do....All things change - would probably come out even better since now that other stories have been redone and probably most details have been addressed so that when this new story comes out there won't be much if any confusion. Obviously Rescue could be the last one since it is depending on so many other stories to be done first. Once those are complete Rescue is free to be tackled in its entirety. That's my 2 cents, however you're the creator.... Second suggestion: might as well just drink a beer and say eenie meenie miney mo!
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I doubt she's a true matrix warrior guyver, i just think that the matrix shards fused with her unit in order to keep the crystallite infection in check. Is the matrix going to self regenerate and become fully operational and making her on par with Jason's unit...doubt it. All its resources has probably gone to heal the control medal, keep the unit stable, retain some aspect of itself and probably just boosted her optimized intellect like you said so that she can perceive things on a new level. Although she may go through some unique mutations as a result of this mix match of different power elements, maybe some energy draining capabilities. And considering she is a Warrior Unit G5 (like jason's and warrior guyver vamore) i'm pretty sure Dreadnought is going to be even more pissed that Chronos has another version of him.
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Wouldn't be a point to that though, Chronos has all the resources she needs so if she is really intent on revenge why not stay with the Organization that would help you get this without much cost. I just think she would endeavor to make Chronos that much more powerful and dangerous and with that get revenge...2 birds one stone. But we'll see. Her uniqueness as a warrior guyver with matrix and crystallite properties will be interesting to see how it changes things for her, chronos and the story.
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Unless Krullnar was particularly sadistic and placed the force of the extinction bomb in the control medals to the levels of destroying a city...if so then it would highly depend on where the GPZ would be located before it went off. Doubt Natasha will be of much use combat wise though...she's more of the brains of the operation, and most likely her status as a WG now would enable her to make further testing and advancements. Come to think of it, she was pretty cold and angry at the death of her mate, and now that she has some strains of the Crystallite infection encorporated in her unit, i wonder how that could affect her psyche
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Angel's Unit
Juggernought replied to WarriorZoalord's topic in Guyver Science / General Science Lab Forum
There could be others who could be responsible for the unknown orange kavzar force....G'kor for one can be suspect or possibly Solom's wife may have survived the Guyver Zoalord's attack and is responsible for them. Btw speaking on G'kor....i was reading up on Assassin Guyver 4's story and realized something when comparing it to the new rewrites that sully is currently doing...is it possible that she is Pariah's real daughter whom he had to make with that hybrid that G'kor provided in order for him to have a place of his own and start having family as well? Only, that G'kor then used her, calling her his daughter and the unit she currently has is sending information back to him. This of course would support the theory that the orange kavzars are indeed his own personal army that is relatively unknown to both Creator and Earth forces. -
Do those enhancements have anything to do with the optimization all zoalords undertook when Kron gave his ideas to Valcus to implement or was that a separate event?
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It will be interesting to see what plans are in store for him. Clearly he's the new power house in town with only W'kar and Dreadnought and probably Enforcer Prime coming close to taking care of him. He really has no other equal and could probably cause severe damage if let loose on Grakken and Gen forces...if they give him the chance that is. Question is, will he last long enough to make a huge impact on things. And will he be a lasting character.
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Well like World War Hulk said, " Nothing stops the Juggernaut? Fine, keep going!"
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Well Kron never really was apart of the "official" command structure. He lets the council run things and he concentrates on waging war and maintaining Chronos' territories. Kron can however do major changes and inflict discipline whenever he deems necessary without asking permission from anyone. Imakarum has the 2nd in command position because of his special link to Alkanphel and he knows most of what Alkanphel desires so is the best one to lead Chronos in the direction that the master zoalord wants. Kron doesn't take orders from him though, only Alkanphel. And since Alkanphel received his unit he's been awake longer than normal so basically Kron and Imakarum were held as joint 2nd command with usually kron joining his lord in battle and imakarum left to oversee things with the deployment of forces and damage control. But since kron and Alkanphel are both recovering, Imakarum is top dog now. I don't think Chronos is capable of making master zoalords, only the creators were able to do that and as of date there are only 4 recovered now....Kron, Alkanphel, Zeugma and Solufein...Zarfel is technically one now too with his upgrade from the stones
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Shadow Guyver is a being i'd like to see get some kind of upgrade..possibly his own gigantic armor, then maybe he'd make more of a mark on the battle scene...possibly even be granted the ability and satisfaction of being able to finally megasmash something
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Well it would only seem logical to me that soon FWG and Dreadnought will discover this fact out as well, but probably it would be best to keep it a secret because what if the ACTF also get their hands on a warrior gigantic unit that could be used with that dormant warrior unit they currently have? Question...could details on how to make the gigantic unit be discovered if Fiona was to form a battle collective with other warrior guyvers?
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Well i don't think the black units would have any limiters in them because they are from an alternate universe...w'kar's to be exact and it was never stated they were incorporated in that as the Creators didn't really care to do more tests on earth, they pretty much destroyed the place. Other than that i would also think if this particular black guyver derzerb is the regular 60 men rating or the improved 90 men strength rating model. If the latter and with some of the black units abilities mostly double that of a standard unit in almost every way, physically i think he would be the most powerful currently on the planet. His durability would be on par or exceeding guyver powered zerebubuth due to the fact that the black unit is twice as resilient as a normal unit, it is equipped with a gravity based shielding and on top of that with Derzerb's natural durability and the fact that the guyver effect could mutate his napalm ability to form further heat shielding...he could potentially shield upwards of 50x a normal guyver's most powerful attacks (pressure cannon or mega smasher) And because he can generate such awesome napalm energy that high bio energy potential would probably be brought to bear in his weapons, that being his head lasers 3 in total..combine that with his heat generating ability enhanced with the guyver. More stamina from this type means he would be able to use high powered attacks for longer periods and still have energy for close combat if it came to that...which probably he would resort to since he is a muscle type and use to ramming attacks and train wrecking punches. Don't know if his sonic emitters would replace his napalm breath and mutate them into some kinda plasma sonic wave emitters. Basically im thinkin this guy has little to nothing limiting or slowing him down. His control medal is not damaged, his zoanoid type is not weak or low on stamina nor is his unit limited by a bio energy limiter, also he has no extinction device in his unit either. Even if there was i doubt it would matter because the unit is an unknown in this universe. Guyver powered zerebubuth on the other hand has many limiting factors. His stamina in his fully enhanced form is only a little over half that of his normal stamina. So he wouldn't last a long time if he used high powered attacks, the most i'd give him is 2 hrs max with as much as 6-8 hrs if he used energy sparingly and tried to come in for close combat. Krullnar is obviously monitoring things through this test unit, and who knows how much he can do to control it...all we know right now is that it has a limiter on it so the zoanoid can't reach its full potential although it has already been altered to allow it to get so powerful, and it has that extinction device if the test is deemed complete. Ultimately i think it will come down to a combined thing of experience of both combatants along with the power they have at their disposal and how long they can keep it up. Even though the datafile of the black unit may need updating, if still some of its power is approaching gigantic guyver levels with no hindrance in its bond with the Derzerb zoanoid ...well i think powered zerebubuth will be against the ropes.
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I like the sound of that...btw do you think that the ideas you and some of the other writers had and talked about, but will never use, could be posted here so we readers and fans can at least see how the planning went, differed and changed direction?
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The extinction device was only added to the current test units. As for most other units out there, they have a bio boost limiter placed on them so that another guyver zoalord could never be created and any zoanoid with a high bio energy signature would not get the full bio boost potential....the only exception being Sho's old unit, Shizu(FG3), and the black units. None of the Warrior or Nova Units have any of these limitations. Dreadnought and W'kar are aware of the extinction device on the test units and they are also aware of a signal being sent back to some unknown location and person. Dreadnought has the only capability to remove it with the help of the matrix, but i think either he doesn't have the time to worry about it now, or he just won't say anything, as a form of control he would have. Plus the only person i could see him helping is Max who has the Giant Unit....I doubt anyone knows about the Aceare units sending signals to krullnar either Black Guyver Derzerb would come out on top....Guyver Powered Zerebubuse has very limited stamina and would only hold out for so long, where as Derzerb has all the durability, energy projection and power he needs to withstand a prolonged battle. Plus his unit has no limiters and at base the Derzerb type is stronger than Zerebubuse.
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Well i'm pretty sure Agito knows his limits as far as understanding that information and may try and develop a way he can upload it to something with a more user friendly interface....I'm sure he'd find someone who could possibly figure it all out, possibly he could use Guyver Zero if he finds out who Zero really is/was, and if Zero regains any knowledge of his former life, maybe Zero can use his dormant Gen powers towards this end. Or he could possibly link up with that dead or alive girl who merged with piece of the matrix....it's possible she could decipher the information if he discovers her and earns her trust to encourage her to use her powers consciously to his own ends. It could be that if more Biolords were created on the zoalord level they would have some attributes similar to Drano but probably the source of the power would be different. Drano is as powerful as he is because he's Alkanphel's favorite zoalord and since Alkanphel created the Bio Titans who rival some of the zoalords in raw power he saw fit to give Drano this same source of power but on a bigger scale. I really think that Chronos is aiming towards the Biolord armor upgrade though, because when Kron was newly awakened he improved on the idea of those implants that would aid the zoalords in controlling the bio armor and would be able to gain guyver enhancements and make them all as strong as warrior guyvers. All 12 zoalords have this modification and are now only awaiting the availability of stable bio armor upgrades. Kron and Alkanphel lucked out because their bio armors were pretty much stable guyver unit shells with hardly any true bio boost systems available - so all it took was manipulating the armor to provide at least the basic healing and weapon properties of the units and they were the first "prototypes" i guess you could say, for these kind of upgrades.
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Agito's unit came from Solom who's unit was removed and he was killed, so he would have all the knowledge of Solom stored in it...Warrior Guyver 2's unit was found dormant in a relic, so the only information he has is what a baseline warrior guyver CM would give its host. That is unless when the warrior units are working together they download all information from each other...that would be the only way warrior guyver 2 would have access to it. But i doubt that's the case. Obviously they have concentrated on giving the upgrades guyver like weaponry since most advanced warriors (creators and otherwise) are based off the bio armor. If they can produce bio upgrades with similar stats when compared to the warrior units, without the zoalord having the ability to go rogue, that's more power for them. Also Chronos' zoalords are still inferior to what the creators can create. IE: Kron, Zeugma, Alkanphel etc Chronos is still trying to figure out how to improve on their zoalord and zoanoid optimization techniques, that's why they are so hot to obtain more creator tech because it may give them some insight to this. Guyver units are good for increase power but Chronos cannot control them directly, each of their units are basically ppl who voluntarily remains in chronos. But having access to more advanced relics would mean they can grow more Arks and access the control spheres to gain knowledge.
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- Juggernought kicks the wife out the house to her gf's house...sits down at computer with a glass of wine....ahhh a new story to get goosebumps over - *EDIT* after reading a through the story i'm wondering after a few things...is it possible for Pariah to be reborn in some shape or form....maybe not as the being he once was but reincarnated all the same...similar to Faye's example of being a template of another person but different in her own way? Also i'm curious to see if the guyver zoalord's reign of destruction was mainly part of G'kor's plan or did the GZ kill him off anyway once he realize he was beyond any control and just began slaughtering the creators and their subjects anyway. And is it possible that Guyver Zero could recover his memories and also locate any of his descendants through their biological link...although it may be extremely diminished but not altogether vanished? Does Kron get to face his brother who is now the Guyver Zoalord? Who is the offspring of Guyver Supreme? Is it possible other guyvers from this era survived the Guyver Zoalord's attack? I'm still dissecting the fic...but once again, it is an awesome retelling of this story. Incredible job Sully..
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Well he would definitely have access to basically all the old and current knowledge that that Solom knew. From ancient zoalord designs all the way up to the warrior kavzars. Technically with the right resources Agito could make his own unit. But as was seen when he was first trying to locate the Genesis relic it may still take him some time to unlock all those secrets as it seems all the information aren't readily available to him. He must first find a way to connect to the memory bank in his control medal to do so.\ Now that i think on it, Agito would be a very key player as he has all the memories of Solom and possibly he's the only one other than Alkanphel with intimate knowledge on how the Gen operate and their history. That would indeed help him manipulate others to consolidate his position as a world leader.
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They can pretty much wipe out whatever powerful organizations Earth currently has in a matter of hours. There are a few reasons why they haven't really cared to do so...no matter how powerful earth type beings are ie Dreadnought, W'kar, Alkanphel...they alone cannot defeat the horde of the Gen. Chronos has no where near the army to battle them alone...the various factions on earth are currently infighting and vying for power amongst each other...The Ark is but 1 ship and even with the second created is not enough to take on even a fraction of the Gen's fleet. The old relics, their guyver units and any unfinished experiments also are of no concern because on the large scale of things their addition would barely even tip the scale....on a planet view, finding those projects would prove beneficial for the lucky group or person.... that is just many of the reasons i think.
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Well they can also produce more wyvern units for other purposes....if Chronos in fact created said units, they could still base it around the concept that the top ranking zoalords are able to control them with Alkanphel being the all powerful override. I think those units made zoalords more efficient with their energy and powers. They have basic guyver like weaponry, it probably had control features littered all over the unit to enhance and limit the amount of energy needed to be used for attacks...with the control medal itself would be more useful because it will help control the armor and also they won't be restricted from accessing creator technology now. But i too agree that the wyvern was a way to make more powerful units and because it was a permanent upgrade they couldn't remove it or be able to bond to another unit. the only way to gain power is if the wyvern could be upgraded or the zoalord goes through further optimization. But Chronos does not have that tech and have no idea about it...My only guess would be the matrix that W'kar has in his possession may have data on this, and also Agito....who knows if his double gave him files on how to create a new one. That could be the missing link to prolong the life of his zoalord Griselda.
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Lol, in the beginning part i could only understand like 1 out of every 5 words.