McAvoy

She'd be a 8,000x character with a Mk.2 standard unit. Anubis' max is at 3,000x at present, though if he could evolve he would easily match Guyver Albass II in raw power. Though who knows what kind of power she'd have with the Guyver unit since she's not directly linked to a specific weapon in her zoalord form. I would guess she could direct that sort of energy into something like the mega smashers for a really powerful boost.

Well, I didn't mean those. I meant the ones before those. I have those printed out to somewhere. The only one I don't have is Baphomet.

Did anyone ever save those old disorganized datafiles from four or five years ago? I'm talking about the ones before W'Kar started to make them into a more WG datafile look. If anyone did can they email me? I would appreciate it.

First of all she's not a unit like a Guyver but more of a Kavzar like being. Same goes for Sedah and Tonnin. It's obvious that the Creators can produce more powerful Guyvers and beings than a Warrior Guyver but not in normal Guyver unit form. My guess is that when they want to create and test new technologies, they would do so in the Guyver unit form. So then they can create it in a more compact form, that when it's time to inplement it into a new Kavzar form, they can merely enhance it, making it more powerful.

It doesn't have to be a power like energy weapons, some of them could have like enhanced speed, strength, or even shield strength over the other zoalords with perhaps sacrifice to other attributes. Just a thought.

Too bad Zeus was killed. Kinda liked him. I wonder if he'll be back... Well, when Dreadnought cut off Eliminator's arm, he did get weaker. I don't know whether or not it's because of the arm or just Dreadnought wearing him down. As far as the Tonnin vs. W'Kar battle, you have to keep in mind that when Dreadnought and Tonnin fought, Dreadnought was holding back. Trying to get info on the whereabouts of his sister. W'Kar was fighting him for the fun of it. I mean compare datafiles and you would think that Tonnin would beat him hands down. But you know how resilent W'Kar can be.

Are the reproductions as extensively merged with the host as the True W'Kar is? Another question, is the Warrior Guyver control medal more advanced than the W'Kar control medal, repros or True?

I think some of them have. My reason? Valcus had 400 to 500 years to create ten other zoalords. That's an average of 40 years per zoalord. Plenty of time to test and implement zoalord designs into the final body. The only zoalords IMO, that probably did not need this amount of time is Imakarum and Vlacus. Both of them processed by Alkanphel himself. It could be assumed that Imakarum is just reprocessed design using Gyro's design and Murakami as a base. I think Valcus did one zoalord at a time. On the other hand, if he could come up with zoalord designs like that, how come it's only recent that he's come up with some really powerful zoanoid designs? Probably because zoalord design does not directly translate into zoanoid design without making them zoalords as well. It is possible, that Valcus could upgrade the zoalords now using their latest teechnology and zoaform design that probably can beat the Gigantic Guyvers one on one. Aside from Alkanphel, Valcus is the oldest of the zoalords. The first, therefore he might not have all the abilities save his mind control, as the other zoalords have. He might not even have a zoalord design. If he did the closest I think he might have is something like a Overlord from WG fanfiction.

Increased Muscle mass does mean increased power. When you work out, not only are you trying to go faster and lift heavier objects, you are also trying to do it for longer periods of time. Naturally, more power, and heavier muscles. Risker does have more muscle mass than Sho or even Agito, and is even heavier than both of them. However, on the flip side, if it's true that the Guyver units give the host's body the maximum that their bodies can attain, than Risker is closer to that absolute maximum than Sho or Agito are.

I skimmed through since I don't have the time to fully read and analyze it. Anyway, there are other things on Earth right now, that'll get the attention of the Creators. The Aussie Clanship, the Eliminator or even a bigger and better Alkanphel? Or maybe something not even mentioned yet?

Assuming they do the same to their units as WG's world Grakkens did to their standards: Base Level Grakken: 800 to 1,600 men (using their extra arms) Warrior Destroyer Grakken: Either 1,000 to 2,000 men or 1,600 to 3,200 men Warrior Destroyer Grakken 2: Either 1,000 to 2,800 men (with CPMs) or 1,600 men to 4,000 men (using CPMs) No they wouldn't be a pure 32x or 40x character, two or three of them would overwhelm a Enforcer Warrior Kavzar. I used the upper figure as a comparison since they do have four arms. But just like the classic Gigantic Guyver vs. Grakken fight, their extra arms did give them an advantage over a similar power opponent, but probably wouldn't matter in the long run if against a superior foe like a EWK. Question still remains though, what would the Creators make that's beyond a Warrior Guyver?

I don't know personally. Just remember that Gigantic Dark was able to control his dismembered limb when he was fighting the zoalords at Relic's Point. Same probably can be said about a normal Warrior Guyver and even Dreadnought. If you think about it, Dreadnought is advanced enough to create lesser clones of himself. But why would he do that in the first place? Remember that he can still create holograms that's probably nearly as powerful as a Warrior Guyver. He wouldn't have to cut off limbs left and right to create his own personal army. All he has to do is activate his holograms.

I just remember this in one of the Military Technology Newspapers I get every week, that they're developing a 'cloaking device' for Tanks. It's exactly what the last James Bond movie depicts. What it does is, is records a image on one side the vehicle then projects it on a seemless screen on the other. Making it look like you are looking through the vehicle. But it works best when it does not move.

I disagree with the human max theory. Reason why? First off, we really haven't seen any of the Guyvers off the top of my head, do anything like lifting a 40 ton object. A Guyver would be able to life a F-14 over his head with ease, which is one of the heaviest fighters in the world. Second, we haven't seen a real Guyver vs. Guyver test of strength. All we saw was Guyver 2 handing Guyver 1 his butt. He wasn't using brute strength but his training. Third, 100 fold means 100 fold. Since the host and the Guyver unit become one, they can vary from 100 fold of the host's strength to 100 fold of the host's absolute potental maximum. On the other hand, it's far easier to simply say 100 fold, believe a Guyver's really strong...

If the Matrix can upgrade a standard Guyver to a full fledged Warrior Guyver, then it can upgrade a near Warrior Guyver into a full fledge Warrior Guyver as well.

Hmmm... Assassian Guyver and Assassian Guyver? I wonder if they'll fight... I wonder how it'll turn out.

I'll throw some of my military experience here... Most don't know this but camies don't work unless you are moving, and it's from a long distance. That goes for any environment. Also there are variants like the digi cams (camouflage in small box patterns) which is good for NVG (night vision goggles) or like technology. Zoaforms negate both of those. Quicker reflexes and better vision. Only way camouflage would work on the Mechs is first they mask heat and noise completely, and they move way faster. That's as simple as I can tell you. There are some camouflage that does work standing still, like tanks but that's just to off set the distance, nothing more. Still can see them, just can't judge the distance.

80x character. Probably with similar abilities like Dreadnought. Well, if you think about it, if the Creators still went the same ways as their non-Warrior tech Creators did in WG universe, they more than likely would develop a newer model of a Warrior unit. Think about it, a Warrior Grakken would be in the 8x to 16x range, or 32x range max if they had the Type 2's. That's not to mention any additional technology added to the Warrior Grakkens like let's say an enhanced Destroyer upgrade. The Creators would actually have more difficulty than you would think. Even with a Enforcer Warrior Kavzar. So they would still resort to designing newer units and they could be testing them on an alternate Earth. That's if they haven't destroyed it yet.

While I do agree with some of your theories, you have to understand one thing. Going from human to Guyver level strength is more than likely linear. Basically speaking for Sho to lift 100 pounds (est) would be the same as Guyver 1 lifting 10,000 pounds or 5 tons (est) would be the same. The only way that anything would contradict this is if the Guyver does not bio boost every single thing in Sho's body a hundred fold. Even if we was used to being albe to lift only 100 pounds, it would only take a short amount of time to get used to it. Here's an example, have you ever lifted something when you were a little kid? Like a bag od dog food or a trash can full of wet newspapers? Fast forward a few years, you haven't lifted that object for years and all of a sudden you lift it and it feels light? At first you think it's heavy but then you get used to the idea that you're stronger than before? In the WG fan fiction, Guyver's with human hosts possess the full potential of their human bodies. So if Sho can only lift 100 pounds as a human. As a Guyver not only does he posssess hundred fold strength but that's of the 800 pound max that a human can lift without physically hurting himself. So according to this, Guyver 1 would actually be 800 times stronger than Sho. But this is juts a fan fiction.

What exactly gives W'Kar his unit's base power, without the W'Kar element? W'Kar (of this board) once said a full power non-W'Kar enhanced W'Kar would be a 40x character. Naturally the unit must have some really advanced tehcnology to make it that powerful. It is a common theory, that the technology of the Control Medal itself dictates how powerful and how advanced the Guyver will be. But in the W'Kar universe was so advanced to create such a powerful unit, why was Warrior unit of the WG universe so... amazing. Yes, it add some key technologies that the W'Kar did not have such as a HSL or more advanced control medal survivial programming. Aside from that, the W'Kar would beat the living crap out of Warrior Guyver. Just a thought.

This might belong in the fan fiction section, but it does involve in some technology. What if the Creators did finish the Warrior Project just like they did in WG2's universe. But instead of conquering their known galaxy, they come up against perhaps maybe a Warrior Grakken. Those Grakkens just like the ones in the WG universe developed a way to upgrade their Warrior units so they look like Warrior Gigantics. Now instead of developing the Matrix, they instead develop newer types of units, Warrior units and more. So the effort, time and energy in developing the Matrix was diverted into creating a new type of unit that can defeat these new Warrior Grakkens, what do you think this new Warrior unit Type 3 would be like?

Nice little pic. I like the face of the Guyver though. The head laser is pretty big though... It doesn't matter what type of Guyver you got, the Guyver is far stronger than the Predator or the Aliens. Look at Arnie, if Predator was throwing 40+ ton punches at him, his head would have been on the floor. I would guess that the Predator is more like in the low-level zoanoid range. 5 to 20 man strength range.

Yeah that's great. So... what makes him a 'God' Guyver? Unless you want to get this topic locked by the mods, you gonna have to be a little discriptive than that.

It wasn't what I meant to do. When I posted the second post, I thought the website did not post the first reply. Instead I got transferred to some site saying they could not find warriorguyver.com or something. Besides you can tell I was rehashing what I was saying before.

Something weird just happened, when I tried to post a pretty lengthy response. So I'll just summarize it. They are always looking for newer types like a Warrior unit prototype or even a Warrior unit. But even if they did they get such a unit, they still would need time to reproduce it successfully and even more time to understand the tecnology. Even if they did what they did to a standard to a Warrior unit, you're still looking at a Warrior Grakken Destroyer in the 10x to 16x range. Right now, I think they should have some sort of counter to the Enforcer Kavzar maybe not in brute power but maybe some sort of weapon or even multiple beings.