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Slit this topic so I could go back to updating you all on planned changes. Time War 2 is getting closer to completion, with that said once it is complete it's time to move onto actual rewites. Cori will be my next major focus in planning for rewrites. The character for simple lack of the word is VERY under developed only getting her moments when resuced (and that was small) to the first parts of All Things Change. So needless to say she will have a lot more to do in the re-writes though will still be more of a support character. Needless to say I've being thinking a lot about the Rescue story. As it stands it's simply my least favourite story. I like some of the ideas it brings but there are things that simply don't make sense. Like how a Guyver can command a Grakken craft? Simple how can that be possible? Yes the Grakken are a Guyver basically, but still they where at war with the Gen, wouldn't their tech be designed to stop the Gen from commanding it? Yes it would so why the hell do the Guyvers get control the Grakken Mothership at all? The more I think about it lately the more "Rescue" is looking like totally being scrapped and wrote again from scratch. It's not like "Revenge", that story might have lacked some punch in some respects but it's a good story overall in the way it works. I'll add more to it in the re-write to give a lot more detail on how Chronos changed over the years since Agito attacked (and in the books blew up) the base. Rescure to me though in it's basic elements works but how it was delivered does not (probably because at the time I wasn;t willing to scrap it when Mike came along and contributed the cool idea of Guyver XT). Rescue is the result of this, plots come out of no where. At the moment I'm thinking on the lines of this. 1. Overall plot Recure of Cori (hence the stories name). What have they being doing to her being the main plot. What have they being up to since arriving to Earth. 2. Subplot 1, Europe what is happening there since Revenge. Warrior Guyver 2 and the ACTF trying to make a base of operations in Germany in an old Nato base seems a more realistic prospect than what was previously shown. 3. Subplot 2. The Kavzar left behind my Draven (yep that still happens but in a different way than before) and it's battle in Russia with Chronos forces as it seeks revenge for the falled Solom and redemption for it's falure. Again this seems a more interesting building plot. 4. Guyver XT and his "sister" will not happen in this story but in All Things Change Part 1. So that element of the story in Rescue will simply be removed. 5. The Fall of Searph begins the story. As mentioned before in 7 Days her fleet will be removed, this allows the Grakken's to act.

Due to this part of the GRakken post turning more into a topic about what Alkanphel will become I'm splitting it off from the main topic so I can use it more for what it was orginally for and also so you guys can continue guessing what we've planned. Have fun :

Chronos wouldn't have a one method fits all policy. Look at that the 13 offical Zoalords. 1. Valkus by pure luck found Alkanphel in his sleeping chamber. For waking him up near present times Alkanphel basically picks the first modren human he met and made him the first Zoalord (this is unknown how). 2. The rest are all selected by Valkus to make an army for Alkanphel. He goes looking for "Great men". Out of these it's unknown what he used as bases of selecting people. But we know it wasn't that all where "men". One being a living Island of plant like zoanoids who needed the Zoalord crystal of have a human like form. 3. imakarum he wasn't selected to be a Zoalord. He was captured and an old school teacher of his was years eariler captured by Chronos and forced to work for them. that teacher selected Murakami to be a test body for Gyro. The teacher did it so he'd someone who would help him kill Gyro who it knew wanted a Guyver Unit to become a Guyver Zoalord. After his dead at the hands of Gyro it was Akanphel that chose him to be the replacement and 12th Zoalord. So looking at the offical line of Zoalords, some are selected for very different reasons, some are selected because of pure bad luck and others for pure good luck (n the case of those that actually wanted this). As for the Aprentise Zoalords in the fan-fiction you're talking of the best and brightest hyper-zoanoid hopefuls, the likes of Risker and Valcuria who where obviously trained and wanted to be in Chronos. This is shown in All Things Change with the introduction of the Twin Zoalords who rule Brazil for Chronos. They where homeless and raised by Chronos. To them Chronos is everything, their mother father and family. Drano then for example would fit more into a mixture of luck and skill. Remember in the fan-fiction I'm taking a more realistic view of how people act. Chronos isn't Good or Evil to 90% of the world in the fiction. They got rid of poverty, hunger and most illnesses and did more for areas like Africa in 1 year that than the rest of the world did in last centry. A lot of the world would want what they have to give. A lot of the world would be thankful for it too. the fiction hasn't really touched on this as it's being based in the USA, Japan, China (realistically this would be a mix, some very rich and VERY poor people there) and Europe some of of the welthest Zones on Earth. Chronos wouldn't have made a huge difference there to a lot of people and most like in the USA would be resentful for their change in government. The rest fo the world though wouldn't see it that way as easily. The rest of the world found itself on an even footing and now enjoy what Chronos has to give. So what if a few decide to be zoanoids, they chose that (remember in the offical stories chronos media promotes the advantages of having being zoaformed) and exceed for it for their family and freinds. A man in a previously war ravaged African country where in the past his children would be of very high risk for mortality due to simple lack of food would love Chronos for what it did. ALL his children would now live, clean water, food, education, medicne, a living protecton from war rebels (it's not like Chronos is going to allow wars and in the books offically they ended wars so indeed the zoanoid army would be seen as saviors)... Would those people be looking forward to the old world coming back or hoping for Chornos? Simply put, Chronos will have BILLIONS of people wanting to be in Chronos, they can pick and chose the best to be a Zoalord with ease.

Strangely for me I felt the story couldn't go forward as mine was without doing the re-write. Because simply it didn't work as it was and to me didn't feel like a Guyver story. But in the rewrite I've also moved the story along while filling in a LOT of missing gaps. For Allen he's to decide what gaps he wants to fill, what he wants to add and then is it worth it and if he leaves it behind how bad the story will be because of the wholes left in the plot. For me it's being fun doing the re-write as I can add a lot to what is missing and as said before I've actually moved the story forward and given some characters a lot more story so they are actually characters. When I hit Meetings that too might be in line for some minor editing (when Kullnar meets Dibby), but thats another day and will worry about that then

Orginal post updated

This is answered in All Things Change.

I aggree there, this story will be a big shift from what we where used to with the "Creators" and how they where shown v now the Gen and how they will be shown. The porblem in the past was in a way we didn't want to show characters within the Creators. Everyone of them was somewhat the same, and felt cold and non character in a way, they just where there as a plot device really. Solom was just there to make a unit and die. It's only later that the death is felt but Krullnar barely shows it. Strangely it's only in Meetings, with an alternative universe Krullnar that we see them shown any real emotion at all, and that was revenge and hate. In a way they felt to me like Vulcan's but without the cool back story as we couldn't do it without someone going "Hey dude, Takaya never said the Creators where like that", which in a way the fiction thankfully is easier to rewrite for now because of this. I can actually make up the details of a race, give them a story, give them an impact in the overall fan-fiction and not suddenly claim "oh the Creators done this". It's working much better as a plot device to give them a reason to look for Earth, to want what Earth had, and importantly for them too not want to contact the Uranus / Creators / Federation. This gives the fan-fiction a controlled element where we can do what we need to give you a story. As for this like the back story to the Matrix, yes its nice to be able to show now how the ideas fit together in Time War. Should be a very good story when completed. I'm looking forward to getting back to work on Jason and getting the rest of Time War complete. I'd say way things are going we're looking at a before Chirstmas release of Time War part 2, the rest should follow soon after as I don't see parts 3 and 4 needing as much added to it. Only needing things brought in part 1 and 2 worked into the story and finished worked out properly. Update time, since putting up the above preview I've worth about another 500 words moving onto the rest of the story. It's getting a lot more fun to write as the villan of the story finally does something to show what he is up too. That's porbably part of the problem, I'm really enjoying writing this story so am not ending it too soon to make sure it works out. Not talking 7 days part 7 in size yet, but it's 24000 words in total and still needs a decent bit of story told, plots from other writers stories to be added (like the above from Zero which ties in what Guyver 0 rememebers in the first GuyverC story) and battles to happen before the Guyver Zoalord arrives.

Fulton is dead dude... he died in the first Live Action movie. In the fic time line that puts his death before Sho and Agito where active. Again though this is something All Things failed to show properly, Zeugma's place in the modren story. But that will be fixed in the re-write. As you see above, it's not about taking from the story but to add more to it.

As promised above is actual rewriting and adding a lot more detail to the days after the WG Unit was made (though the above hasn't be re-read, re-edited, so some bits have very poor grammer more so because I was rushing to finish this on the train this morning as I'd a good flow going). Things are picking up, characters are being forced or feeling forced into action all trigured by the near ending of the Warrior Project. You all know already the final event, but the process leading up to it was poorly presneted in the past and only hinted at... and those hints where crap. This time it will be in the actual story and there will be betrayal and it will probably leave you annoyed after reading it as not all the time do the good guys win or the bad guys really lose. Who said they where on opposite sides? They do? News to me... I didn't realise the Gen of the WG fic where dead set on wiping out the Earth... Speaking of Zeugma after re-reading what I wrote in the past. Pre - Meetings and 7 days the character was really under used, and felt a little lifeless. Sufice to say after you read Time War 1 and 2 you'll understand a lot more about the character as she was then, a highly controlled Zoalord. An agent of the Gen who had a more complex relationship with them than most of the Zoalords. In modren times she awakes to find all this gone, she calls for help and gets none, not even a responce. All Things Change does not do this well enough (there is a lot it doesn't do well enough). Remember the Gen are not bothered Zeugma is now alive, they know most if not all Units are active and out of those most will not even bond with Zeugma or any Zoalord. She's now simply part of the modren day testing. That would be telling. No Commet

That is actually not such a big deal as it used to be. The web server WG.com is now on is a lot LOT better than it was before. So making a new board on a different completely database (I've 2 now with them) will mean what happens there does not impact on this board at all. Though it would be a different messageboard so you guys who are interested in it would have to make new user accounts (or I could transfer the user accounts from this board, but would need a list and will clean up from there pruning out those not interested). Let me know what you decide and will go from there.

Update time (yep I know this is a double post of sorts, but a few days have gone by and have something worth while to add to keep you guys up to date). I'm finally actually re-writing in Time War. The build up is done and am now at the point the 5th WG Prototype is finished and in the story. Unlike before though it's not going to go right from that point into "OMG Guyver Zoalord!". There has being a lot of story before this moment, a lot more character building and important events that need to be closed off our built up to a point where they can continue on in the current storyline. At the moment the story is 21500 words approx. At a rough guess I'd say it is between 2/3 and 3/4 done. Hopefully this part will be easier to write in someways but the more important plot points will most likely take awhile. One thing is certain, the Guyver Zoalord this time will not just "happen". There will be the final build up and betrayals that allow him to get a Unit that will actually work for him. It's being kinda strange but good though to have such a large story without my main character in it. But it's being a good write so far and looking forward to how I finish this myself. Once I'm a few pages into this part of the story I'll post a preview of the story from the point the WG Unit has being created to give you guys a better idea of what is happening so far. P.S. Primitive Guyver (more so his host) is also now in the story but not going to make it obvious who it is (it should be guessable though).

The thing is he never had it on in WG 2's story. This will be helped plot wise by a more detailed intro in Time War 3 for Galen. In away he's is similar to Elera in that he is made for a purpose so comes to Earth in a similar way. Sufice to say my old story telling lacked that detail needed to sell that point in the story.

Bear in mind a fully healed Alkanphel was no easy being to beat for Dreadnought. So imagine that with just simply the ability to healand heal wounds? Alkanphel doesn't need a lot to be scary powerful.

That was the way it was meant to be. Think it needs more detail though to make it work. In Time War it will be helped by the fact Galen enters the story pretty much the same way as he does in WG2 story. Only that the Ark attacks the ship in modren times not a Grakken scout so Galen never had a chance.

The only thing that bothers me is how the WG2 unit came off of the Gen. I am assuming that will be fixed? Yeah that will work better in the re-write.

Time for another update. Almost done with the aftermath of the Warrior Guyver Prototype 4's failure. Though his isn't from the Gen's view but that of the Tribe of the Great Snake, or more so that they have become and how they are impacted when one of their close nit group is deemed a failure by their "Gods". Other events happen with result in the fiction we have today and the introduction of another long living Character will be in this part of the story too. Events from the death of the WG-P4 have combined with other factors shape this characters view of the world which utimately are still in play in the modren storyline. This has being mostly wrote up but needs some more work on it to give it more meaning but that shouldn't take too long. As with my writing in 7 Days part 7 I wanted to give the story more of a human element to why things shaped up the way it did and make the character relationships more complex than before. This will have done that and in more ways than you'd have thought before. Once that is done it's time to finish off the Part 2 and get the last major bit of story done and have the Guyver zoalord event happen. Basically as before this will end with the Guyver Zoalord destroying the Advanced Guyver projects and the Gen wondering who or what could possibly save them now. Next week I've a week off, I doubth I'll get much done on the site as I just finished building my new PC built around an ATI 5870 grpahics card. As my new gaming system and some new untoched games have being sitting there gathering dust the last few months and I've yet to play Halo Reach after buying it pre order (Matt the slacking artistic git has being playing it though ). So all in all, strangely I doubth I'll be writing anything at all until I'm back in work until November. I'd a read through and rewrote most of the first part of the WG2 story last week. So far it's being an easy rewrite as the first part read like a diary and needed very few subtle changes. Looking ahead Part 2 most likely will be different as I explain what went so differntly (compared to Time War) there but apart from background history not much will change. Time War parts 3 and 4 should be like this with little change to what was wrote before other than more filler events to show what happened to characters instroduced in parts 1 and 2. Saying that, when it's edited by James I'm betting he's looking forward to the chance to add more to the Guyver Zoalord battles.

Will be answered Time War 2. which by the way is at the ending of the Guyver Supreme v Warrior Guyver prototype 4 battle. So it''s getting there. Once that bit of the story is done there is one schene to do based on the fallout of the fight from the humans point of view that leads up to the creation of Faye. Then will move on to the final phase of the story which is the final build up too and the start of the Guyver Zoalord event and the death of Pariah. :

Yup, it was wrote like that. But orginally did he use those powers much? Nope he was basically always simply Guyver 0 he even at the end of the story wasn't able to use those abilites he had to learn English and hold onto it (it ends with him speaking Gen and no one understanding it).

This depends on how orginal you want to get.... At first it was simply that Guyver 0 survived all this time. Then book 15 came out and years ago that was the first retcon and Guyver 0 was given a lot more history in the fiction to cover it. Basically we said it was a great who experimented with the unit and was given a human body. Now he's a little more and the bases of a dieing races attempt to survive. the Creators have not returned but another race in the Federation called the Gen. So Guyver 0's story has evolved with it considering we now know a lot more about the offical Creators and that they where called the Uranus and that they where part of a Federation of ancient races. The Federation was responsible of attempting to detroy the earth. In the Fan-fic the Gen "aquired" Guyver 0's old Unit in an attempt to re-create the Guyver and make it controllable. They did it not only for the raw power but because their race was in danager of being extinct.

Deffo not Elera, while she will be reworked a little she's not going to be more than 50 or 60 years old at most, or will just keep her as is a teenager. Clue: a,b,c,d,e,f,g etc etc etc now I know my a.b.c.'s.......

Not exactly...

The rewrite of the WG 2 fic will have this in more detail. But as it's not a major plot device I'll explain here. We've 4 Universes shown so far in the WG fic and another one shown in the GWOTG that show how things went differently for the Gen and their plans. Each one of those 5 had something happen in them that made them all different from each other. The Matrix is the product of the 2nd Universe mentioned. That means it does not have the advanced Nova tech that would be in Universe 3 or know about the W'Kar tech in Universe 4. While it is very advanced and can most likely learn new technology it does have it's limits. So the question being can it advance lets say the Nova twins, probably yes but it wouldn't be by advancing them with a lot more advanced Nova tech. It would be the more advanced WG tech from that Universe that would take over their Units. Though that is unless a Matrix of course learned of the tech from the Strange Worlds or simular to it Universe and learned of the Dark Nova. Bear in mind the WG2 universe wouldn't be the pinicle of the WG tech. They have not being in a fight for their lives for a long time and have not had a need to advance. So fact is it only knows of WG 2 universe would mean it wouldn't use what is considered less advanced Nova tech.

They are coming along slowly. As I've to drive into work this week and don't have time to write on the train nothing is happeing writing wise. This month most likely will be crap for progress ont he story. But it's getting close, the first actual mention of the Unit that will become the Warrior Guyver has happened on the eve of the test day for the 4th Prototype WG unit. That is still the current plan (though is subject to change and more so up to James). The main set I'll be focusing on if not completed by James will be the Creator data files which need ot be rewrote so that they are in fact the Gen data files and time lines mentioned changed drastically. Yup, they are done and ready. I just don't want to upload them as having mixed data (some with old power levels and time lines) files will suck. Though as with the fan-fic rewrites that is subject to change... Thinking off hand I might put them up on the forum after Time War part 2 is done.

Possibly, bear in mind it would have the technology avilable to the Gen of the WG2 universe. A Universe where the Nova Project lost to the WG project. What we know is the following. Jasons Unit is the same as it is in the main universe, meaning it was capable of handling Gravity based attacks. It was replaced by the standard version of the WG Unit (Stephen's Unit). Question would be how advanced it was, and how well it rivaled Solom's work. But yes it would be there inside the Matrix for it to use if needed.

Above is the first preview. Bare in mind this will most likely be re-edited by me again as while it gets the information out about what has happened recently. It doesn't to me flow right. But in the end it works and will give you guys a clear idea where part 2 is headed. You guys should know where this one is headed. It's linked with the first privew but there is a lot of story between them but for those of you who like reading between the lines. The 2nd preview has just being finished by me on the train. To put it in a perspective time wise this is about 5 to 10 years away from the next major bit of the story that will focus on the 4th WG prototype. Once that is completed the story will most likely focus on a character you guys have being asking about in the forums (that be your only hint). After that part is done and the setup is in place the 5th and final WG unit prototype will be in the story. It's not something I want to rush so good chance it will be awhile away before I get the story finished. But it's still progressing nicely. The story is on about 16/17K words.