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photoshopped. the most obvious one is the second image in the first post.

it's a shame so many of these are 'shopped.

I do not have the book myself.... but i do remember clearly that part.. it was quite clear that Balcus was travelling to the 'new world' i.e. the americas. and he was on a portuguese merchant vessel. these ships would not have travelled the pacific. the americas were approached from the east. the pacific was being explored around the 1800s. Balcus discovered Silha around the 1600s. if somebody has the part with the ark firing energy toward silha, feel free to post. p.s. durendal, don't worry, it is not you that is a burden, you are doing all this work if anyone is making things difficult, it is I for pointing out these things!

what an interesting story! I read about halfway through Dual Life Refraction chapter 1, before realising that if I did not stop, I would be here til 2 in the morning. unfortunately i rarely find time to read, but I must say this is a stimulating story! I am certainly intrigued as to how this happened and what the heck is going on! perhaps i can find some spare hours at some time to continue. I hope so.

thanks cannibal, I was sure that I had heard it somehwere! yes i remember now, yes Balcus was travelling to the new world on a portugese merchant vessel. so I guess this means that the VDF book is in error? well it wouldn't be the first time. remember the trouble it caused with Li Yentsui's name...

ok sure, I was just wondering if you remember seeing it some other place, i thought it might have been in one of your other translations.

oh cool thanks, but sorry if It seemed i was being impatient, I wasn't, I just read over and saw what you said and I thought that i may not have been very helpful. but anyway, that is awesome! thank you I would like to ask though... I had it in my mind from somewhere, that Silha was in the atlantic. now It's not that i'm doubting what you wrote, more like I am doubting my mind, but I am wondering if you know of anywhere else where it might have said this and maybe we have conflicting sources? it is really cool to have these words about the creator experiments. we knew that they were experiments, but the specifics about it seem to make it more tangible.

on the page that lists all the vdf pages, the date is displayed by the files. the date is the last modified date so it is easy to detect which file has not been modified since 2006. and so the next page that has not been translated is vdf-059.png

we'll be keeping it archived. I'll put a link to the topic in the first post.

cool, I think it's a nice thread as long as we remain in the spirit of admiration and not descend into lecherousness/perversion. those are some very attractive women there I don't see the model that i like, and i can't even remember her name anyway

i think what hapens is that when the discussion link is clicked, a topic is made, but then if nothing is written in that topic, it gets deleted and so it goes on in a vicious cycle.

In this topic we keep our progress on the scanlation of the Visual Data File. This is work in progress, so please nobody ask why there are pages still in japanese. Anybody wishing to peruse the VDF files can access the files here - http://japan-legend.com/guyver_advocacy/vdf/ -------------- archive of old topic on guyverboard for those wanting to review history - http://www.theguyver.net/guyverboard/index...0&start=180

love that lion!! that is so awesome! how that guy must have some experience.

woah!! that is incredible!!! that is so cool... but what are the different versions? I think he is agito... thats my guess but there are different models on that pictures.

ok... that man getting sawn in half... well it's pretty fantastic and If I saw it with my own two eyes I'd be taking my hat off, but the thing it.. that is bullshit. i watched that video a number of times.. they cut it. the part where they put the two halves on the smaller trolley and then rol him over. well the two shots don't match up. when it cuts, his torso is higher up. i watched him being rolled over and i can see how his body is intact and he just rolls over.. he is in an awkward position and rolls over. I can see that clearly, but it cuts.. they obviosuly hidden something because the two shots don't match. I don't know what they did with the studio audience, but thats not the whole story.

i already read that though. a while back. it's not really in line with my thoughts. and the reason why i said that, is because I wanted a discussion not a reference links. but now you replied a great deal, so I am happy I didn't get some parts so you'll have to forgive me if I missed something important. the way I see it is this :- particles exist in an equilibrium. compounds etc, work because of covalent bonds etc. so I am looking at gravity and applying similar principles. let's say that we look at gravioty.. I don't want to think about this rubber mat thing. it's too simplisstic a concept to work with. I would rather think about gravity in it's actual form. not a simlpified 2d construct. I think about attractive and repulsive forces. explosions are repulsive. expansion. expansion caused by a release of energy. so contraction is caused by a sucking in of energy. how does it suck in energy? well it must be some kind of negative energy. thats what i think gravitons are made of. this negative energy that causes things to contract instead of expand. it's almost like heat in the way that is radiated. I always viewed gravity like a huge array of lines coming out fro the central point. whereas light or anby other form of rasdiation would cause a propulsive force, due to the high energy content.. the gravitons would create an attractive force due to negative energy content. so in my view gravitons are radiated. now if gravitons can be radiated to a degree that they come OUT of the black hole... they must be faster than the escape velocity of light. unless of course.. my mind os just messed up. I just thought that escape velocity would be govermned by gravitons so gravitons themselves are not subject to the limiting effect of their own influience. damn. well at least you made me think properly about it!! so there is the conclusion of my idea! anyhow. I won't go onto time to much. I always think time has to be faster than light. otherwise it would be impossiblet o measure the speed of light. because the speed of light is dependantt upon a small incriment of time. if time was the same speed of light, then light would be everywhere all at once.

I appreciate you taking time to reply adn thank you for priovideing the currently accepted standpoint, but I have a small problem. my post included the logic of why I think that way. I provided a means to explain why I have said those things, but you have not provuided a logical basis for your statements. only stated them as accepted facts. I'd appreciate some more background in your countermandments. quick edit: because black hole influences the outside area using gravitons and in order to do that, the gravitons must come from the black hole and if they can do that, it means their velocity must be greater than escape velocity and thus that of light.

I was just thinking about relaivity again. I'm sorry it just doesn't sit right with me and I guess it never will. well I was thinking along these terms.. they say that you cannot go faster than the speed of lilght. however, the escape velocity of a black hole is said to be FASTER than the speed fo light. so here is what I don't get... there is a speed faster than the speed of light. that speed exists. theoretically that speed is a fact. it is the escape velocity of a black hole. so... gravitons go faster than the speed of light... right? because that is how a black hole works, with gravitons, isn't that what gravity is? also the fabric of space is faster than light, and time is also faster than light. so when they say nothing can go faster than light... well gravitons can. I guess this is how warp theory works. through manipulation of gravitons. because if you can create a dense field of gravitons at your destination via some quantum physiks or summink... then you are creatikng a black hole type effect.. you are creating a faster than light conduit. ok sure, in the normal fabric of space, you can't exceed the speed of light... not as MATTER... but I think .. I think the main problem I have with relativity is that it seems that most of the time it is assumed that it is rteh be all and end all. a lot of People use it as the be all and end all. so anyhow.. thats my thought. a FTL travel could be accomlished by using gravitons somehow.

not sure about it being funny... but it was interesting anyhow . thanks for posting

heh heh, thats pretty cool!

sounds very cool! I haven't got any of her songs. apart from the obvious.

hang about. this is only 10 days away. it looks interesting. a lot better than the past xmas crap. ooh, lets see. xmas doctor who... in london. aliens attack. ok. oh the next one.. in london. so.e ancient aliens attack. oh and stupid cow. ok. lame. now this one. space! WOOT. a nicely designed strange spaceship thing. WOOT. wierrd angel thingys. WOOT. comets. WOOT.

WOW! now that is what I call original!!!! super sonic, watch out!!!

I don't think it makes any sense for anything to crash into the tardis seeing as it is essentially a tesseract. unless this ship is an interdimensional ship.