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That is all very interesting..... wow i am just trying to get my head round what you just said!! i think i understand most of it though. i see what you're saying is that just because they are more mass it doesn't mean that the mass of the muscles produces the actual strength. that maybe they channel energy and use that to control the body instead? Liskers muscles are gonna be far more efficient than shos because he is an elite, trained, perfect physical specimen. if that is what you are saying then he would be stronger anyway? or do you think the mass of the body is simply to cushion the guyver against blows and seeing as guyver3 and guyver 2 have more mass to begin with then they need more cushioning? otherwise why else is there a increase in mass to such a degree? edit: I think i see what you're getting at. then guyver increases muscle and cardio vascular efficiency by the same degree in each unit. in which case if efficiency has been increased by such a great factor then the mass and load bearing qualities of the individual muscles becomes negligable. unfortunately there is no evidence to support so it just comes down to a matter of opinion. to be honest i tend to agree with you. if guyver two was proportionately stronger than guyer1, sho would have found it a lot harder to defend himself!

sorry to add fuel to the fire guys, but i did some calculations last night. now it doesn't take a genius to work out that risker is heavier than sho(by 40 kg) but what i did was to instead work out the body mass index (weight versus height) coz lisker is also taller than sho. i figured out that lisker is higher body mass index than sho (about 24 when sho is about 21) no surprise there as he is very stocky. however, when working out the BMI of the two guyvers, surprisingly enough guyver 2 had less BMI than guyver 1 (G2 about 81 and G1 about 86). this seems to lend its support to what zeo is saying about the guyver being an equalizing factor. however i would like to take into account that the g2 unit was malfunctioning so that may/maynot be relevant. that being said guyver2 is taller and heavier than sho(about 100 kg heavier). the laws of physics dictate that guyver two should be the more powerful body. im no scientist so if any of you have an explaination for how a lighter body can be more(or the same) powerful i am more than willing to listen. I am going to do some more calc. with guyver1 and guyver3 tonite and will probably post monday with my finding (unless someone else beats me to it!) EDIT: Wow looks like noones posted yet! well here goes:- now this is interesting. it appears from these findings that guyver 3 and guyver 1 mass increase is 300% while guyver 2 is 240%. this making guyver 3 125% heavier than sho as human and guyver. this means that the guyver does not have an equalizing factor and that guyver 2 was almost equally matched by sho because of the unit malfunction. i am taking the stance that mass=power here so even though guyver 2 is heavier than sho and naturally has more power, if the guyver was functioning properly sho probably wouldn't have been able to parry at all. Zeo1234, you stated that muscle mass does not necessarily mean power. i am interested to know your comments on these findings and how, genetically the power of the muscles can be equal while mass is greater.

SPOILERS!!!! just to elaborate a bit more, the guyver on its own would not stand even the remotest chance against alkanphel. alkanphel has ultimate power over any of the zoalords. when gyuo tried to fight against alkanphel he wasn't even phased by any of his attacks. to use as a comparison the effect that guyver 3's megashmasher has on gyuo is not as devastating as we might expect. this is the guyvers ultimate weapon and when agito fired it at him (albeit at half power) gyro was not destroyed. also we have seen alkanphel take the unit off of guyver 0. the most notable part is where guyver 0 fired his full mega smasher at alkanphel and alkanphel just shrugged it off. and then there was the time on top of the relic when both guyver 1 and guyvr 3 fired their full megasmasher at him and he just turned it back on them without so much as blinking..... i think you get the picture!!!!

So whats the release date for that in the US? Its released tomorrow here in sunny britain. or did you get a sneaky early copy. like, do you work in a shop coz i work in game and i got to play it instore 3 days ago.

All this is off course taking the assumption that the guyvers punch strength is down to muscle strength alone. of course we all know that the orbs in his forearm use gravity fields to create a momentum and this would probably be another big factor in determining the strength. at the point when risker is holding sho against the wall and pushing his blade toward sho sho is obviously struggling a great deal against him. risker didn't seem to be having much of a problem. from this is would determine that the actual physical strength of the guyver is indeed dependant of the hosts base strength.

I'm not quite sure i understand what you mean by this but the guyver units came into existence long before zoanoids. we are not even sure the creators actually made the guyvers but we suspect this is the case. the guyver unit (as is already stated) is a tool and the creators, after making their army of humans/zoanoids, were curious as to how their tool would react with their creation. for more info try studying episode 11 of the anime or get the books.

yeah sorry bout that, i wasn't sure how to go about it from the description i was given. thats why i based them on the standard guyver weaponry... is it supposed to be some other type of technology?

it is a pretty stupid pic though they could have at least got him a box... hopefully trhe next guyver film will get it RIGHT.

here is some more guyver work but this time done in cg. void was introduced to me by kamui de' tempest, i believe he is a character in one of the fanfictions, guyvers lair(it is a fanfic isn't it?).

It also refers to sho as 'crystal'. ("the fukamachi crystal" is actually "sho fukamachi") The word sho actually means crystal or power. a lot of the translations engines do not understand the context in which words are written. japanese as a language is very context sensetive. therefore the same word in different situations can mean wildly different things. that said, murakami was referred to as Beast Master in anime vol 11, beast master or animal god, both describe perfectly what a zoalord does. and military officer, or general is what they are. chronos generals, zoalords. so yes to both questions.

When i look at your work and then look at mine, i have absolutely nothing to be proud of. I am humbled. i need to work harder. work as good as that is my motivation to continue. Keep it up you are truly talented. p.s. are you a professional illustrator? if not you should be.

I really wish i had time to do intricate colours like that! That is really nice picture! Unfortunately all my talents are with the pc. i have no talent at all with coloured pencils! i envy you!

The guyver reproduced shos scar accurately. the guyver is likely to get rid of any potentially harmful chemicals or materials. in short the guyver would regenerate the host 'clean' if the hair was bleached it would remain bleached:- the damage would remain. if the hair was coloured the colour as a foreign material would be expelled.

OMG These are the times when swearing should be aloud coz words cannot express how cool those pictures are and the prospect of having GYUO! Looking closely at the guyver stood at the top left those legs are guyver 1s. I am 99.9 percent certain of that.

WOW that is GOOD customer service! i was thinking about ordering from whatcomics.com but now my mind is made up!

Hey guys thanks for all the comments! Armageddon, You mentioned that there have been other interpretations.... do you know where i could find those?

i got the first two volumes. i keep meaning to get the rest! What i've seen of it was pretty awesome, chocobo was really funny eating ai(yu?)s hair all the time! i would have liked to see better designs on the summons though.... oh yeah, special features were some of the best i've seen!

here is my 21 hours labour of artistry. Jehuty is a rpg character created by kaiser dragoon. if you skip over to the rpg site you can see full descriptions of what jehuty is. http://s3.invisionfree.com/GuyversLair/ ... hp?act=idx this is my impression of what he would look like. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/ ... dlarge.jpg a large version here and full body:-

I started on this game and i love it! I love the anime feel and the battles are great the way you can smash the bad guys yourself! The characters are so lovable and the story is very involving. I do however find it a little annoying that sometimes you need to speak to every character before you can continue.

that would be known as piracy. I would advise that you read/reread all the rules. If you want the album you should look on ebay they had it there about 3 days ago.

are you sure that is the maxfactory one? the quality doesn't look like their usual standard.... plus we haven't seen versions that complete on their own page yet. or am i just missing the point completely and this is a really old one?

(sorry if im in the wrong section i wasn't sure wether to put this in fanfic.) imagine you are walking home and the streets are quiet and all of a sudden a man jumps out at you. he says he has something that he has found and is selling. he takes out of his coat what we recognise as a guyver unit!!!! he says he doesn't know what it is but he is sure it is worth at least fifty pounds/dollars. you have the money in your pocket. now think very carefully. what would you do. weigh up all the consequences and make a good choice. remember there are advantages but there are also big drawbacks. as we have seen the guyver can be a blessing and a curse. what would you do? (now im not asking what you would do if you became the guyver that would definitely be fanfic subject matter. i want to know the choices and the reasons, the philosophy, thats why i put it here)

any way you could delete all users who have been a member for over a year and not posted once? perhaps these take up space and contribute to some of the problems that can arise.... just an idea.

As long as it doesn't interfere with the forum in its current guise, it sounds cool. you know maybe as an addition. as for replacing it thats a big NO WAY that would be alienating far too many people (including myself who uses library computers for the net).

one thing that i really want is adjustable brakes. you can make them sharper or softer if you want. maybe you could have something like throttle assistance for hill starts? oh and definately how about a h.u.d. on the windscreen! fuel economy is important as in a couple of years we(the earth) will be running out of oil. i would like a handbrake that is either on or off. not one that gets stuck just before the bottom so you have to always make sure you push it down all the way. maybe there is a lot more things i want but ill leave you with those for now.