Guyver versus Thor Guyver versus Thor ( Marvel)

[Divine-Guyver]

Well, to be honest, with marvel Chars. it depends on the writer how strong they are.

And couldn't guyver use his HF blades, lose against Mjonir(hammer) and then go gigantic.
Use his bendable HF blades, win!

[Guest Jupiter]

Wouldn't Sentry be the equivalent of Superman? I mean he went nuts and Thor killed him by blasting him with a huge thunderbolt. Other than Thor, he's practically Marvel's version of Superman and was a valued member of the Avengers until his nervous breakdown.

 

                                            

[Salkafar]

The Sentry flat-out can't be killed. He only goes down when he wants to, or when he is in the process of breaking down mentally.

 

I personally suspect he is in fact the Beyonder in yet another incarnation.

[Guest Jupiter]

The Sentry flat-out can't be killed. He only goes down when he wants to, or when he is in the process of breaking down mentally.

 

I personally suspect he is in fact the Beyonder in yet another incarnation.

 

How can he not be killed? In one of the issues, he fought Thor and lost. Did he somehow come back from the dead? I guess its possible. I really like Sentry, but there is little that I know about him. Other than the fact that he can kick the Hulk around without much effort.

[durendal]

Despite how strong the sentry is, he is nuts.  I never liked him anyway.

Superman not being able to lift Mjolnir but Wonder Woman can actually makes sense.  Although Superman is pure in spirit, he does not have the warriors spirit.  The character attributes of Thor is also present in Wonder Woman.  You can actually say that Wonder Woman is the female version of Thor.

 

As for Guyver versus Thor, sure, Guyver can sucker punch Thor, but when it comes to beating each other up, I'd have to say Thor would have the upper hand.  Doesn't really matter who's the strongest, whoever fights dirtiest wins.

[Guest Jupiter]

Despite how strong the sentry is, he is nuts.  I never liked him anyway.

Superman not being able to lift Mjolnir but Wonder Woman can actually makes sense.  Although Superman is pure in spirit, he does not have the warriors spirit.  The character attributes of Thor is also present in Wonder Woman.  You can actually say that Wonder Woman is the female version of Thor.

 

As for Guyver versus Thor, sure, Guyver can sucker punch Thor, but when it comes to beating each other up, I'd have to say Thor would have the upper hand.  Doesn't really matter who's the strongest, whoever fights dirtiest wins.

 

Why did Sentry have emotional and mental problems? Did he have child abandonment issues that caused him to be unstable?

[Larz Zahn]

No, he is much schizophrenic. He has a personality he calls the void. Its his own boogie man his mental powers made up.

[Salkafar]

How can he not be killed? In one of the issues, he fought Thor and lost. Did he somehow come back from the dead? I guess its possible. I really like Sentry, but there is little that I know about him. Other than the fact that he can kick the Hulk around without much effort.

 

The Sentry - I repeat - can't be killed. His power is literally impossible to gauge, and while he has been defeated in the past, it was either because he let the other person win (The Hulk, Thor) or because he was confronted with a power he hadn't encountered before, or had forgotten - namely Morgana le Fay's sorcery, and the Molecule Man's transcendent control over matter. They both destroyed him completely. And in both cases, he simply reappeared again within minutes, out of thin air.

 

Thor, after 'defeating' him, dropped him into the Sun, and he supposedly died in there. But in his mini series, he had already discovered that he had tried to kill himself that way before... and nothing happened. In recent issues of 'Uncanny Avengers', the Sentry has once again returned... and explains that he died and was resurrected in the sun over and over again. He is now completely psychotic and delusional.

 

Oddly enough, the Wasp 'defeated' him by having him swallowed by a giant alien worm. This seems... kind of ridiculous. He had literally pulled his head in two, exposing his brain, earlier in the fight, to pontificate more effectively, restoring himself with no effort at all.

[Guest Jupiter]

How can he not be killed? In one of the issues, he fought Thor and lost. Did he somehow come back from the dead? I guess its possible. I really like Sentry, but there is little that I know about him. Other than the fact that he can kick the Hulk around without much effort.

 

The Sentry - I repeat - can't be killed. His power is literally impossible to gauge, and while he has been defeated in the past, it was either because he let the other person win (The Hulk, Thor) or because he was confronted with a power he hadn't encountered before, or had forgotten - namely Morgana le Fay's sorcery, and the Molecule Man's transcendent control over matter. They both destroyed him completely. And in both cases, he simply reappeared again within minutes, out of thin air.

 

Thor, after 'defeating' him, dropped him into the Sun, and he supposedly died in there. But in his mini series, he had already discovered that he had tried to kill himself that way before... and nothing happened. In recent issues of 'Uncanny Avengers', the Sentry has once again returned... and explains that he died and was resurrected in the sun over and over again. He is now completely psychotic and delusional.

 

Oddly enough, the Wasp 'defeated' him by having him swallowed by a giant alien worm. This seems... kind of ridiculous. He had literally pulled his head in two, exposing his brain, earlier in the fight, to pontificate more effectively, restoring himself with no effort at all.

 

I never imagined that Sentry was that strong. In a way, from what you've said and explained. You have made me like Sentry a lot more. Do you think Sentry will ever see a movie? I think it'd make for a great story.

[*V Guyver]

Sentry and Void are pretty much in an existence of Schrödinger's cat.

There are also the Heroic Age characters. Those things can destroy Exceed with ease. Actually, they could probably kill Thor easily too.  

[Salkafar]

The Sentry is actually not a very good character to use in an ongoing comic because his power level is so insane. His evil counterpart the Void can easily defeat the Hulk. The Sentry himself fought Galactus to a standstill. When the Absorbing Man attempted to take his power, he exploded instead.

But the price of all that power is his sanity.

He was very effective in his original mini series when it is 'revealed' that he might be the very first super-hero of the Heroic Age, inspiring the Fantastic Four and the Avengers and continuing to be a role model for many other heroes. Unfortunately his nemesis, the Void, was a constant menace, until one day he realized he and the Void were the same being. And the only way to stop him for good was to forget he was the Sentry and, what's more, make everybody else in the world forget as well.

It was a ballsy concept, and it worked... and then they felt the need to introduce him in the Marvel universe proper. And nobody really knew what to do with him. He should logically end every battle the moment he entered it because he's completely invincible. He's Superman, only twice as strong but without Kryptonite.

Mind you. The time period between his introduction and his 'death' in Siege was one of the most interesting periods in Marvel history.

Edited June 8, 2014 by Salkafar

[alkanfel009]

this is my theory of guyver force, as has been seen

 

according to my theory, so guyver fukamashi is about 10 times stronger than a gregole, from there we can measure their strength,

 

remember that a gregole could lebantar a tank, which should weigh about 70 tons,

 

measuring fuerzza which exive, the guyver

 

guyver can lebantar would say 700 tons more in his giant form around 7000, tons,

 

 

and even ppuedo not even imagine in exeed mode, so qque

 

I can say that serious asecianado thor, the Guyver, remember that the usual mega smasher is powerful enough to destroy a mountain,

[Salkafar]

That is elegant and neat, Alkanfel, but I don't know...

 

Gregore has been stated to have 15 times the strength of a normal human... and Derzerb, 60 times. So he's four times as powerful as Gregole, not ten times. And we don't actually know how powerful Guyot is in terms of raw physical strength. All his feats have to do with energy attacks and gravity manipulation. Same with Archanfel.

[alkanfel009]

That is elegant and neat, Alkanfel, but I don't know...

 

Gregore has been stated to have 15 times the strength of a normal human... and Derzerb, 60 times. So he's four times as powerful as Gregole, not ten times. And we don't actually know how powerful Guyot is in terms of raw physical strength. All his feats have to do with energy attacks and gravity manipulation. Same with Archanfel.

guyot equaled in strength to guyver 3 surpassing by little.

 

Link Remember that power increases gregole 15 times, but we have no idea if he has superhuman strength in its normal form as demonstrated by other Zoanoid

 

the strength shown by derzerb, is quite larger than that of the three so easily guyver locoloca about 10 beces on gregole,

 

the livertus also demonstrated in multiple Aptom an ocacine that poceen superhuman strength without, transformed

[Salkafar]

Gregole's data file doesn't say his power is fifteen times greater than in his human form, it says he has fifteen times the strength of a normal human.

And these other examples are, of course, a Libertus and Aptom, neither of which are representative for Zoanoids. Aptom is not even a Zoanoid, in fact.

Edited July 16, 2015 by Salkafar

[alkanfel009]

Gregole's data file doesn't say his power is fifteen times greater than in his human form, it says he has fifteen times the strength of a normal human.

And these other examples are, of course, a Libertus and Aptom, neither of which are representative for Zoanoids. Aptom is not even a Zoanoid, in fact.

 

It is rare, but remember that we have not seen a

Zoanoid without fighting, transform,

so we have not seen if the giguao that zoalord or hyper Zoanoid and clear Aptom havehavilidades on human,

have the best examples in Volume 9 during the , x day

where Zoanoids, who are particularly achieved, partially lift a tank,