oogeej Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) I don't know if anyone here has the know-how to make an educated guess but reguardless I wanna pick your collective brains over this. Edited March 17, 2014 by KirinoChi Quote
Guest snow Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 oh.... Good question. I wish I knew. I guess it might be like Noah's Ark. Quote
*guyverfan Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 i vaguely remember barcas talking with another about when the ark is ready, would be able to carry an army of a million(maybe 2) of zoanoids. it'll take me forever to try and find the chapter where the conversation took place. Quote
river_chaos Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 guyverfan: I don't think they've given a specific number yet. I'd imagine they'd be able to haul an army of 1 million in it on take off, but during the years of travel I'd imagine that number would increase to its maximum capacity due to breeding. Quote
LordSpleach Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 What if the Ark can create another self-sufficient ship? Quote
oogeej Posted March 18, 2014 Author Posted March 18, 2014 What if the Ark can create another self-sufficient ship? I kinda hope that's a plot point; good guys get an ark, ram bad guys ark. drenn goes down... Quote
*V Guyver Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 I also heard about the word million mentioned before about the arcs capacity. But I'm ignorant of that matter. Quote
Sully Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 I think it was answered in the un-offical data file... but the question would be how cannon that is? Quote
Salkafar Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 The Ark is more than twice as long and more than four times as wide as the island of Manhattan, and higher than Mount Everest. From what we have seen, it must have several decks - the inside shots we got of it when Imakarum travelled through it suggests those decks are no more than perhaps a hundred meters high. That means you could comfortably stack at least twenty of those. Also I found the relevant page... A million seems needlessly conservative. If we are talking about twenty habitable decks, each, say, twenty kilometers long (less than 40% of the total length of the ship) and, say, three kilometers wide, that's 1200 square kilometers - a little larger than Hong Kong, which has over seven million citizens. 2 Quote
*guyverfan Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 great stuff salkafar, it is huge, with many decks, but when you start dividing those decks for use, ie; observation deck, mess hall, storage rooms, recreation, war games, supplies, general quarters, sleeping cabins, etc. for 1million+, it starts to get smaller. being a zoanoid ship aswell, their'd be labs and acouple decks may just be full of optimization tanks to replenesh the ranks along the way. stand in the middle of a 7mx5m room and then put a kichen table with 6chairs in it, you start to wonder where all that space went! you need room to move around, you can't stand shoulder to shoulder with others for long before you feel like elbowing someone in the face! how large was that chamber where they were only storing three zoacrystals! don't forget showers and toilets! hate to see the line up if there was only 1 toilet. Quote
*Jess♥ Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 I think when Salkafar compared it to Hong Kong, he fully took into account the various issues you've cited, since Hong Kong would have to allow for all that. Quote
*V Guyver Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Though I wonder if by Zoanoids, they mean transformed zoanoids, not the human form. Zoanoids are vastly larger than normal form humans. Quote
Salkafar Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) Though I wonder if by Zoanoids, they mean transformed zoanoids, not the human form. Zoanoids are vastly larger than normal form humans. Oh, no, not vastly. Even big guys like Bonga or Bresnel are only about 2.5 metres tall. Edited April 4, 2014 by Salkafar Quote
*V Guyver Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 That still makes a big difference. it it isn't just hight my friend. Average male american is 1.7 meters. Compare that 2.5 and you have a 32% difference body mass from height alone. Then, there is width, which is more important in space consumption in some cases. We've seen gregoles chest mast being almost 300-400% bigger than a normal humans. You are going to see a huge difference in how many humanoids they could fit in a room if they are transformed or if they are in base form. Example 1 Quote
*guyverfan Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 agreed vguyver, many zoanoids and hypers do differ in size due to the different forms, but on average i've just assumed that the average zoanoid would be perhaps 3&ahalf times bigger in mass than a human. so 1 million zoanoids would perhaps be around the same mass as 10&ahalf million humans? or,well, there abouts? as the characters were talking in the manga, i interpreted their conversation was about their transformed selves and not their human form. and as salkafar pointed out that the ark could comfortably hold much more than 1million humans, was how i came to that reasoning. weight would play a huge factor in the ships carrying capacity aswell, wouldn't it? maybe while not in space, but surely within a planets atmosphere if the circumstances ever arised? Quote
*V Guyver Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 Weight doesn't seem to matter much when you can negate gravity. Maybe mass, mass is an issue in itself. Reason why the Ark likely has no issues with gravity is in how it flies. Doesn't seem to have actual thrusters. Also if it's anything like the Guyver, then it must have a large gravity orb built in. I'm thinking at the bottom of the ship where thrusters usually are since we've seen that give off a gravity orb glow/thruster glow of sorts. Quote
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