How do Guyvers hear?

[AptomAM0021L]

I have always wondered how a Guyver "hears". I know that the VDF states that the Hyper Sensors are three dimensional compound sensors, the Hypersensitive Magnetic Field Sensor captures movement of mass with the Gravity Sensor and that the Quantum Magnetic Sensor can distinguish the brainwaves of humans and Zoanoids. In the new anime TV series, they worked differently, and worked on sonic vibrations. I know that to be false. So how can a Guyver hear? I think it's by either two ways: The Guyver's skin is sensitive to vibrations, similar to a snake, and can choose which part of the body "hears" vibrations, or that the crest on top of the Guyver's heads is the sole function of hearing. What do you guys think? Please discuss!

[*Jess♥]

that's an interesting thought, I had never considered it.

yeas i agree with hte skin idea. I believe that the guyver could easily detect the minute vibrations hitting the skin.

another possibility is that the sonic orbs can work in reverse.

[*BananaKing]

I'm pretty sure its the vibro-orbs

[soul science]

Maybe the spike on his head works like an 'antenna' and recieves vocal/audio noise. Just a thought.

[LordSpleach]

I have always wondered how a Guyver "hears". I know that the VDF states that the Hyper Sensors are three dimensional compound sensors, the Hypersensitive Magnetic Field Sensor captures movement of mass with the Gravity Sensor and that the Quantum Magnetic Sensor can distinguish the brainwaves of humans and Zoanoids. In the new anime TV series, they worked differently, and worked on sonic vibrations. I know that to be false. So how can a Guyver hear? I think it's by either two ways: The Guyver's skin is sensitive to vibrations, similar to a snake, and can choose which part of the body "hears" vibrations, or that the crest on top of the Guyver's heads is the sole function of hearing. What do you guys think? Please discuss!

What do mean by 'crest'? Do you mean the red orbs on the sides of the horn?

[*zeo]

I have always wondered how a Guyver "hears". I know that the VDF states that the Hyper Sensors are three dimensional compound sensors, the Hypersensitive Magnetic Field Sensor captures movement of mass

This could be the mechanism, sound is just kinetic energy traveling through a medium. So the sensors could be detecting the movement of the air molecules to hear. If true then the anime may not have literally meant that they worked on sonic vibrations, just that since they are at least partly linked to the host audio processing centers of the brain that the feedback from the sonic zoanoids was numbing his ability to process the information from the Hyper Sensors... basically information overload.

Though this doesn't rule out other explanations, just seems most likely to me.

or that the crest on top of the Guyver's heads is the sole function of hearing.

I doubt the crest/antenna since if that was the case then the Guyver's hearing should be damaged whenever the crest/antenna has gotten damaged. Though there hasn't been enough examples to really rule it out.

Alternatively the Guyver could have either sound sensitive layers of the armor that are not immediately visible as such (perhaps the band of armor just below the hyper sensors). I doubt the whole armor could funtion in this way though, besides the host would be able to hear things from the ground if that was the case but seems to rely on the hyper sensors for all early warning.

[AptomAM0021L]

When I said crest I meant just the whole antenna, or horn on their heads. I didn't mean the orbs on the sides of the head, because Agito's unit doesn't have them, and he still hears. When I said skin, I thought that maybe the Guyver could choose parts of the skin to be sensitive to vibrations. Even though the anime isn't canon, when Sho fights the two Sonic Hyper Zoanoids, he feels great pain when they use their sonic weapons on him. Of course, he should have been able to use his Hyper Sensors in that situation, even if there isn't any sound. The Hyper sensors could be what a Guyver hears from, because it is what is signified as a Guyver sensing any sort of danger. It's also in the same general area that a human's eardrum would be.

[*Kenji Murakami]

It could be that, if the Guyver recieves vibration through the entire body to hear, that the Control Medal filters out the data from the feet under normal circumstances. It'd be far enough outside a normal person's expirence, I'd think, to be distracting.

[Enzyme-eternal]

I thing the Guyver still uses its hosts “ears” to hear as normal but without the opening and cartilage. In the new anime the Guyver reacts to the sonic attack by covering where his ears would be, though this could just be a reflex action and the anime isn’t cannon so make of it what you will.

Anyway, I thing that the Guyver hears though audio sensitive armor plats that are connected to the eardrum which would be an improvement as the direction of the sound wouldn’t effect such a hearing system as much. Also it removes a potential weak spot buy sealing the ear with armor rather then it being an open section of the skull. That doesn’t mean the sensor orbs can’t, or don’t, detect sound I just don’t think there’re the primary audio sensory organs but the sensor orbs could be uses to hear things beyond the Guyver’s normal hearing range.

I’ve always taken the sensor orbs to be an enhancing tool for the host pre-existing senses (which I also take to be present on the Guyver) as well as an additional sensory device for senses the host doesn’t have rather then a primary sensory device.

I’ll say this though, as much as I like the idea, it seems unlikely that the Guyver can hear with every surface of its body. I think something like that would became immediately apparent given the massive amount of additional hearing range (I don’t mean range as in distance) that would give the Guyver.

[*Jess♥]

when they use their sonic weapons on him. Of course, he should have been able to use his Hyper Sensors in that situation, even if there isn't any sound.

not to mention his eyes....

the production values on that anime were really bad

[Larz Zahn]

well... from what i can tell they were using a form of solidified sound. sound waves can actually have a physical impact on the body. example would be a ultra high frequency can make your ears blead cause it ruptures your ear drums.. same thing in movies when the audio level gets so high pitched it shatters glass.

elephants make an ultra low frquency that we cant hear, but we can feel it.

so just cause the guyver couldnt hear those zoanoids attacks, doesnt mean that it still doesnt have an actual physical effect too.

and in the anime, even tho its not canon, sho used his sensor orbs to tune into his dads voice the first time fumio was targeted. it was right after shos houce got burned down.

im gonna go with the idea that the sensor orbs are what enables a guyver to hear. im not sciency enough to have a definite reason for that, but it makes since for me anyhow. voices give off vibrations and broadcasts audiofrequenies.. im sure the guyvers sensors can pick those up and translate it into sounds sho mind recognizes.. i thihk. lol

[Guest maX Volnutt]

Has anyone considered that the Guyver's audio sensory organs aren't on the surface? I mean, look at our own anatomy. The actual thing we use to sense vibrations is within our ear, the 'ear' itself is just a horn for siphoning in sound, really. It's probable that the guyver's hearing mechanism is much more sensitive than our own and thus have no need for such a cone. It's possible there's no need for a cone. It could just be in an opening. I personally like to think it could be that slit that runs along the back and side of the Guyver's head. That would allow for more than 180 degrees of sound reception from the most vulnerable directions. That and I'd like to think it has some kind of function... It is also in a spot that could then in turn feed sound directly into the user's own ears.

My only concern is that it's not present on all guyvers... though there are similar features that could serve the same function.

Another idea: What about those little redish orbs at the base of the Guyver's crest? Have they been assigned a function? If not, then we can make them anything we want in our imagination. Reverse-vibration orbs or some such would do fine.

[Moonraker One]

Another idea: What about those little redish orbs at the base of the Guyver's crest? Have they been assigned a function? If not, then we can make them anything we want in our imagination. Reverse-vibration orbs or some such would do fine.

The ones on the antenna-shaped headpiece? Agito's Guyver 3 doesn't have those, and he can still hear, so that eliminates that idea.

[*zeo]

The ones on the antenna-shaped headpiece? Agito's Guyver 3 doesn't have those, and he can still hear, so that eliminates that idea.

Problem, we don't know whether G3 has them or not. His crest/antenna covers the area that is exposed on G1. So they could be there and just be covered by the armor, we simply don't know anymore than we know what those red orbs are for.

[*Jess♥]

I personally like to think it could be that slit that runs along the back and side of the Guyver's head. That would allow for more than 180 degrees of sound reception from the most vulnerable directions. That and I'd like to think it has some kind of function... It is also in a spot that could then in turn feed sound directly into the user's own ears.

My only concern is that it's not present on all guyvers... though there are similar features that could serve the same function.

I was thinking the same thing yesterday. I looked on each guyver for a similar structure.

guyver 3 has two notches above his eyes, but that would cause a difference in ability to hear between guyvers. I can't see that the unit would give them differing hearing ability.

[Guest maX Volnutt]

I was thinking the same thing yesterday. I looked on each guyver for a similar structure.

guyver 3 has two notches above his eyes, but that would cause a difference in ability to hear between guyvers. I can't see that the unit would give them differing hearing ability.

Actually, it would make sense that they WOULD have different sensory capabilities. The reason Guyver 3 looks so severely different than the other Guyvers is because it adapted to his more aggressive, attack-based style, whereas Guyvers 1,2 and 4 are more defense oriented. So it would make sense that G3 would have greater vibration senses toward the front, as attacking dictates you would be mostly facing the source of danger.

[*YoungGuyver]

I agree with Zeo on this. I think that the sensors can detect the air molecules. Though I think this is backed up from the manga.

When Sho and Hayami made the raid to rescue Aptom, and Sho thought he sensed the invisible zoanoid, he said he sensed it due to the gap in the air. He sensed it because he was sensing the air. It to me suggest that sensing the air itself can tie into auditory sensation. Roundabout, but whatever. It acts as a tidbit of evidence. Especially since Sho had no reason to go out of his way to scan for anything. If it was already passively scanning as a part of 'hearing' things, it can show how he would have picked it up.

[Guest IC Ominae]

The TV series Master Files state the hyper sensors can detect gravitational force and magnetic fields, so that capability was not dropped. I'm not sure where the concept they rely on vibrations is from.

The implication of the sound Hyperzoanoids was that they did some mojo that made it so that Sho would have no warning before he got hit with a pressure wave. This was explained as a trick that effectively held the air still by cancelling out everything, although the actual implementation of such a thing would be more along the lines of a really fancy white noise generator messing up measuring equipment. Not exactly the measuring equipment's fault, and this was a very, very inexperienced user still.

Sound detection involves some manner of membrane that vibrates in response to pressure waves impinging upon it, with measures taken to filter it and otherwise before processing. If one wanted to guess at a Guyver ear I would point to the extra track that all Guyvers but Agito has in their helmet, personally. Agito's alternate could easily be the spikes given the vibroblades need to be able to determine natural frequency for maximum effect.

The real answer very likely is simply that Takaya gave this whole line of thought less consideration then Macross 7 did the whole principle of assaulting aliens with sound, in space...

Edited December 16, 2008 by IC Ominae

[Astramentous]

I'm inclined towards a direct vibration. For example, if you apply vibrations to the skull just behind the ear, then the owner of that ear will "hear" those vibrations. If the exterior of the guyver in that region simply registers the sound waves as air pressure and translates them into vibrations applied to the base of the skull, then all the organs for such a process would be internal. It'd also be able to protect the host's hearing by dampening harmful noise.