Interesting question

[WarriorZoalord]

well, i was thinking about what non-zoa species with a guyver might beable to stand toe to toe with a Guyver Zoalord.

I thought that the Saya-jin (im using the Japanese spellings for this DBS term... i like it better than saiyan.) would probably be one of the ones able to do it... thats not including their super modes. 1. they seem to have massive bio-energy reserves... 2. their energy attacks are supposedly able to destroy planets (vejita's attack the first time he fights goku, the gallic/gallot gun attack was supposedly strong enough to destroy the earth) and they get stronger the more they battle. so, with that in mind, my mind slid to another known guyver unit that has similar abilities... the W'kar unit.

The question is this. Do you think that with the larger bio-reserves of a Saya-jin do you think that it would have allowed the W'kar unit to "evolve" to its ultimate form easier, without the need to mess with the hosts mind and such, making it end up in a form that isnt all Anubis-y?

I think that the unit would evolve quicker with the larger bio-energy reserves and not turn the host all evil.

[Spartan Warlord]

a saiyan w'kar or any form of saiyan guyver would be out of this world...a W'KAr Goku i would guess would be much more powerful than anubis due to the super saiyan modes...with goku's insane strength plus he gets stronger by his will to protect yes the W'Kar unit would have been able to completely restore itself much quicker than with greg weather he would be crazy would be down to if is heart is stronger than his saiyan blood instints...BUT the rest of saiyans lived for battle and relished in it, the fact the whole race was hired as merceneries is a good indicator...so with the W'Kar on top of a saiyan you'd get something alot crazier than anubis, powerwise thought could the W'Kar give saiyans the power to go super saiyan?.....

[Juggernought]

Why would they need to...but for sake of the topic, the unit would bring out all latent potential so they would be far beyond anything a saiyan could achieve on their own, far beyond even Goku's dreams.

[largo]

You know I think this takes the whole its gotten a little to much like DBZ power levels to well new levels.

[*zeo]

True, but a SSJ4 Guyver could probably recreate the Big Bang and put the whole mess into its very own universe

[McAvoy]

Goku evern before he first transformed into SSJ demonstrated powers beyond that of any Guyver or Zoaform. It took Alkanphel all his power and will to destroy something the size of Mars. Frieza could do this will very little effort in his weakest form.

So you add the most powerful Guyver unit with a limitless potential host like Goku, you get Godhood.

Besides, most of the SSJ are more powerful than Anubis. They may not have those certain abilities, but in all out fight, Anubis would lose.

[WarriorZoalord]

even if i was a writer, I'd never think of doing such a story.... i like guyver, and i like DBZ, but i wouldnt willingly mesh the two unless it included saiya-jin not in guyver units at all. it was just a "What if" kinda thing. though i do remember reading a fanfic once that had G1 fight against Goku.

[McAvoy]

There was already a fanfic written about Guyver meeting Goku. I think it was placed before or after the Saiyia-jin saga and it was stated that Goku and the Guyver were even. I read a long long time ago like ten years ago.

Besides power levels in DBZ are not linear anyway. So a Guyver magnifies Goku 100 fold. In power level terms that would be a 10 percent increase in power level readings like 100,000 to 110,000 for example.

But on the other hand it is theorized that a Guyver can bring out the full potential of it's host. So we can have Goku on the beginning of DBZ with a power level of 416 go to 416,000,000 for all we know.

...Or it could little to nothing.

[gelionlegends]

well the guyver could do very little to enhance goku but like you said it could bringthe full potential or what he is capable of at that moment in time.

then again it could enhance to the potential that goku's current body can do, which changes each time he exhasurst himself training or in battle plus surviving wounds that would kill normal people and come back stronger, then adding in the SSJ states not sure if counting SSJ4 or not.

but with such the guyver would easily have near unlimited energy as goku would generate a lot and the guyver would be able to quickly recuperate the loss.

as what i was thinking would be that besides the "bring out potential" part there are the other enhancements like the regeration part would be like cell as well as the part of his senses being enhanced, plus the weapons output would be monsterous.

[McAvoy]

It could be that Goku's power might fry the control medal...

[Juggernought]

Couldn't his saiyan aura prevent the organisms from bonding to him?

[McAvoy]

Probably considering how powerful hus aura makes him. He's bullet proof in the very beginning and later on can withstand attacks that would destroy worlds. So if he doesn't want it, then Goku doesn't get it.

[Guyver_Astray]

Found this on dA. It seemed fitting to the whole conversation: http://tbone111.deviantart.com/art/Super-Saiyan-Guyver-Goku-112411487

[Guyver_Astray]

well, i was thinking about what non-zoa species with a guyver might beable to stand toe to toe with a Guyver Zoalord.

Don't know if one could possibly consider him a species, but what about Alex Mercer, the main protagonist of PROTOYPE?

[*zeo]

well, i was thinking about what non-zoa species with a guyver might beable to stand toe to toe with a Guyver Zoalord.

Don't know if one could possibly consider him a species, but what about Alex Mercer, the main protagonist of PROTOYPE?

Wouldn't that be akin to giving a unit to Aptom?

[WarriorZoalord]

well, i was thinking about what non-zoa species with a guyver might beable to stand toe to toe with a Guyver Zoalord.

Don't know if one could possibly consider him a species, but what about Alex Mercer, the main protagonist of PROTOYPE?

Wouldn't that be akin to giving a unit to Aptom?

I've plkayed prototype, and while he's not quiet Aptom badassery it owuld be pretty damn close since alex doesnt have lasery or missle attacks like aptom does, but he still has some badassed moves.... of course, since alex's changes came from a government made disease, i think that would mean there's a chance he might become a normal human again.