sho's guyver

[gelionlegends]

hi been a while but i was wondering on what sort of upgrade would the mark II unit give to shos guyver?

like the strength, speed a hsl and so on improvements to the unit like adaptive bio armour to enzyines attcks and such?

that and how would everything have turned out from the beinging say with a mark II guyver or like the W'kar damaged or not being with the basic g-units and what or who would use g-unit 1, or a WG-unit with or without a MKII upgrade so much like the prototype WG but either fully working or like the original or after the MKII.

though i would think that it would change greatly as who ever gets the g-unit 1 would most likely go through sho's path of getting into chronos japan and maybe making the gigantic upgrade but i am not sure really?

but the enimy chronos will find it very hard and needing to make the neo-hyper class zoanoids before they would be deployed to take him on.

just a thought really oh the units would have to have been cast some how through the dimentions to this world hence the more advanced designs and features and such.

[Juggernought]

Sho's unit would only gain the same enhancements any regular unit would get from a mark II upgrade. I believe there was a posting on the mark II strength enhancements somewhere on the board but not sure where it may be. More than likely all the stats of a regular unit would double, and be comparable to a gigantic guyver.

The story would have been very different with the mrkII's available because even one of them could take out nearly all the zoalords and zoanoids. Chronos would be very hard pressed to create newer versions in time and chances are they wouldn't be able to. If a damaged W'kar unit was there(depending what unit you referring to, and the extent of the damage) chronos could be destroyed. Alkanphel may be the only survivor along with others who didn't fight and it could be possible for Alkanphel to destroy a mrk II but that would tax his strength. With more of such units, they could overwhelm him.

The gigantic unit may or may not even be created. There wouldn't be a need with all that power available. With warrior units, the prototypes or type 2's having the mrk II tech or not... in Chronos' early years would surly end their ambitions.

[gelionlegends]

yes i think there is somewhere on the board it states something on the mark II stats though i am not sure if they touched on the standard G-unit being upgraded, i know it was a different unit that got upgraded but not sure whoses though i belivie that dark nova got an upgrade for her type. but that wasn't a general upgrade mark II meaning it can be used on any guyver unit baring one with everything that the mark II would upgrade that is already done.

from what i remember the talk on it pending from what reality it comes from new improvements on whats already there or upgrades to new tech like the HSL or the cpm and bio energy doubler each grant either near unlimited stamina or boosting the power output for a limited time and so on. so any break throughs in those realities on an advnced model of the guyver and so on would i think be shown though like above pending on what happend there.

so if someone who knows more on the mark II upgrade stats and such could you please point out where the data file is so i can read it or if someone has a guyver mark II a standard guyver upgraded data file.

i would have thought with the w'kar either the true w'kar or the lesser types ending up there and sho getting it that chronos would be forced to start looking at improvements in the zoanoids and looking at the lost numbers to making them.

that said we can't really tell how sho would react and what he would do as through the begining up to relic point he doesn't go out to deal with them.

though i think agito would be pissed as sho has the potential to be more powerful than him even if he was the one to make the gigantic armour. though who would wear the first unit guyver 1 if sho is wearing the w'kar? one of his friends or does some one from chronos wear it say valikury (sorry forgot the name spelling) or malmot who would then be the first guyver zoanoid of the series.

this change in the storyline like sho getting a WG-unit would also cause the heads of chronos to start looking for power increases in themselves and their soldier just like above though i would think it would not be as serious and dangerous as it would be with the w'kar units. so they would have more leasure to create any counter units and such but sho would still be a dangerous force though from what was seen he would be trying to protect his friends from being killed or captured and then turned into a zoanoid.

[Juggernought]

Mark II enhancements vary from guyvers of different types. Units like the Warrior Guyvers and Fighter Guyver II benefit from the bio-energy doubler, increased CM processing, as well as an increase in all their stats. The upgrade mutates the warrior units giving them bio-whips and possibly other weaponry not yet revealed. Guyver XT also received mrk II enhancement when the host body was being converted from plasma based to bio-energy(human) and he to received a huge power leap although he has yet to regain his original power levels.

That's if Sho as a W'kar even allows them to gain power. With a damaged True W'kar unit or one of the reproductions, Chronos would be severely weakened and may even go into retreat until they find ways to combat this new power that rivals the zoalords and potentially Alkanphel himself. As a W'kar Sho could potentially gain power rapidly due to his intense desire to protect his friends and any misfortune befalling them the unit would pump these emotions to their max.

[gelionlegends]

that seems to be true, by that i mean that the mark II is always used on advanced guyver units like the warrior units and nova not sure on the fighter guyver as i thought that was a w'kar unit type, but i don't think anyone has written a standard guyver unit getting a mark II upgrade which be interesting to see don't you think?

when you think about how much more powerful these other units are and that the mark II increase and improves what they have or fixing any problems and also possibly adding weapons and such, then i would think that a standard unit could possibly gain an upgrade to something like near warrior class. though that i would think depends on what the mark II can do to up mutation and creation of more than one control medal, even adding extra rings and such to help enhance it and maybe adding a zoacrystal or one of the kavzar type crystals to increase the over all power, function and so on. thus allowing for the unit to handle the upgrade propely and fully.

with sho i thnk the basic thing is that he isn't as agressive as agito he's morehelpful and such so i don't see him going out and hunting chronos unless he is conviced, he is more likely to just protect the area he and his loved ones are in from them.

though from time to time i could see him going on he hunt because of the maxed emotions and destroying any and all zoanoids he finds and their bases.

[*zeo]

Mark II is basically GWOTG universe tech upgrade, but it effects all units differently. A regular unit would not see much of a change, except for minor things like being able to reverse the angle of their swords, etc. (Check GWOTG for examples)

Fighter Guyver II is a W'Kar, his unit is from a parallel world in which Greg died and the damaged unit bonded to his brother (The present Greg and his brother are not from the same universe). He was given the Mark II upgrade, which made him more powerful but stopped his unit from evolving like Greg's Unit continues to do.

Basically the modifications a unit can expect depend on the power level and genetic matrix of that particular unit.

For WG units, since they are naturally more powerful they can take advantage of more of the Mark II tech. But we are talking about different technology from two different universes. So the Praetorian Units (what we call the WG Mark II upgraded units) would each produce its own unique mutation according to the type of host it bonds to. So don't expect all of them to have tendrils or even the same types of augmentations.

[Juggernought]

I thought Fighter Guyver II's unit wouldn't have evolved anyway due to the fact it was severely damaged and therefore stuck in that current form and power level? Not to mention it mistook Jarrod for the now dead Greg in that universe.

[*zeo]

The evolution is part of how the True W'Kar Unit was repairing itself back towards its original state, remember originally the unit was so powerful it turned a Creator into a 50x character. But the Creator host couldn't handle that power so it pretty much exploded and the unit took on the form of a G-Unit as it tried to repair itself, which is why when it originally bonded to Greg it functioned like a regular Guyver unit. But as it slowly repairs itself the unit and host evolve.

Since Greg died in the Universe that Jarrod came from, the W'Kar unit bonded to Jarrod because as Greg's brother he was genetically similar enough to trick the unit into thinking it was him and in its continuing attempt to repair itself it bonded to him. But the combination of everything, including the Mark II upgrade, halted the ability of the unit to continue to evolve and so Fighter Guyver II remained at his power level while W'Kar Greg was seen to continue to evolve.

Of course for awhile Jarrod was more powerful, but eventually Greg evolved into a more powerful form.

Essentially Mark II tech upgrade isn't always a good thing, at least for non-standard units like the W'Kar or even XT, who has been altered significantly from his original form.

[Juggernought]

So then i guess it's safe to assume that XT probably won't ever achieve the power levels he had in the beginning...unless of course he gets his hands on warrior tech or something else.

[*zeo]

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[WarriorZoalord]

So then i guess it's safe to assume that XT probably won't ever achieve the power levels he had in the beginning...unless of course he gets his hands on warrior tech or something else.

I dunno, in the WG universe his units still manged, yet he was able to go toe to toe with Crystallite for a while. so its possible that the giving of a physical body as opposed to his old plasma one with the MKII could actually make him more powerful than he was, so it could go either way.

[Juggernought]

Actually i think having a human based body now limits him even more so than when he had a plasmoid body. For instance he could no longer utilize the heat from volcanoes to help recharge, the amount of energy he absorbs is also limited by the physical body and he can tire and run out of energy from prolonged battles. Plus Crystallite wasn't trying to kill him out right, just feed off him so she would hold back going all out, only to the point of rendering him helpless. In both cases, he would still require further upgrading, or Dreadnought's healing ability to achieve original power levels.

[Aranor]

XT's physical body may not necesarily be human. Growing off a body that is plasmoid in origin and bio boost armor as an incubator he's gonna be more than human. As for using the volcano why can't he? If the heat does not damage the armor is may nto damage him. Especially if his body is built to accomodate the raw enegy of his plasmoid self. In his older form he ran out of reserves rather quickly. His armor also had no physical bio mass to boost from. A physical body may help manage his power reserves better and give him a better bio boosting effect.

[WarriorZoalord]

remember, his body only LOOKS human, for all we know hes about as human as Angel is right now, and shes not quiet human herself anymore thanks to what her units doing to her body.

[McAvoy]

Sho's unit is no different from a standard unit. So his unit would be no different than Mitsuki's own unit which also got upgraded to Mk. II. Physical strength I was able to figure out while I was rewriting the datafiles for GWotG: 170 men, 4x regeneration, shields, grow virbrational blades from where they wish, more or less 2x abilities.

Though Mk. II upgrade also applies to the Gigantic unit so if the two were upgraded seperately, a Gigantic Guyver II would be easily as powerful as a Warrior Guyver with more powerful abilities.