Shenzon Posted December 1, 2008 Posted December 1, 2008 I don't know if this questions been asked but, any ideas on the abilities of a Guyver Derzerb? Strength? Speed? Durability? Megasmashers? Any speculations on whether or not it will be able to discharge its napalm and if so, how? I think the temperatures would be increased by the unit to levels capable of seriously damaging Guyver's, possibly even Warrior Units. I also believe it will have discharges similar to the Acear's Rail Gun but mounted directly on the sacks to either side of its head that would discharge the napalm. I also believe its ability to increase its body temperature during ramming would make it extremely difficult to fight in close quarters combat. I think its strength could end up being around 30x-35x a Guyver. Any other speculations or ideas? Quote
Juggernought Posted December 1, 2008 Posted December 1, 2008 Perhaps a Warrior Guyver Derzerb could reach those levels...but with a regular unit i'd hazard a guess that : Physical strength: As a Guyver Derzerb it would be equal to or slightly greater than a warrior unit. As a guyver it would have normal guyver levels. Speed: As Guyver Derzerb same reflex speed as a regular guyver, as a guyver nothing changes. Durability: As Guyver Derzerb its durability is greatly enhanced to withstand powerful physical attacks as well as heat based energy attacks. And could possibly stand up to anything under a single hyper smasher attack. As a guyver durability reduced to normal guyver levels. Weaponry: As a Guyver Derzerb head beam power output could be lookin at a 10x guyver boost due to napalm effect and could have more of these beams, pressure cannon is also the same, sonic busters is doubled its power(as Guyve Derzerb). Vibrational swords is the same, megasmasher would easily be in the 24x guyver range with the napalm storage tanks supplementing the power and heat additives. Gravitational powers remain at regular guyver levels. Possible Heat Shield?: Could be derived from the ability to generate internal heat in order to boost durability when ramming an opponent Quote
Shenzon Posted December 3, 2008 Author Posted December 3, 2008 Physical strength: As a Guyver Derzerb it would be equal to or slightly greater than a warrior unit. As a guyver it would have normal guyver levels. You don't think he will be in the power ranges of Guyver Powered Zerebubuth? I thought he would be because their power levels are very close, plus with Derzerb being strength based. Possible Heat Shield?: Could be derived from the ability to generate internal heat in order to boost durability when ramming an opponent Interesting idea... He may be able to ram his way through blasts instead of normal barrier shielding like Neo-Zektole when he created that electric barrier when Guyver 3 Megasmashed him. Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 according to the chronos DF's here on WG.com, Derzerb has more strength than a Powered Zerebubuth Oo, which means that a Guyver Derzerb would be stronger than GPZ >> Personally, I think a guyver bio-titan would be the best non zoalord guyver >> Quote
Juggernought Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 Yea, i stand corrected. He could be in the same power range as guyver powered zerebubuth. And for a guyver bio-titan to be created, with their immense bio energy alone they could easily be in the power range of a guyver zoalord or even stronger. Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 I figure a guyver bio-titan could have put the smack down on the guyver Zoalord in time war >> Quote
Juggernought Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 Very true. Plus that zoalord was said to have been weaker than most and his unit was also not on the same level as a regular guyver. Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 Very true. Plus that zoalord was said to have been weaker than most and his unit was also not on the same level as a regular guyver. true, but it was alkso said that said guyver zoalord would still have been able to slaughter Dready if he wasn't playing around with WG. >> Quote
Juggernought Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 Agreed. Really, WG shouldn't have been able to even hurt the GZ, but eventual rewrites should cover it i suppose. Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 Agreed. Really, WG shouldn't have been able to even hurt the GZ, but eventual rewrites should cover it i suppose. if you remember, it took him absorbing the combined gravitational energy of like near 100 guyvers, himself, a bunch of zoalords, even the GZ himself, and it nearly exploded his control medal to do it. the unit worked liked it was designed, but i doubt anyone forseen how much energy that gravity shield could handle >> Quote
Juggernought Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 Yea...but i think hands down, if hyper zoanoid team 5 all got warrior units they would probably be one of the most deadly combination. With the battle mind collective the units have and not to mention warrior tech augmenting their zoanification. Quote
*zeo Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 Well let's see, Zerebubuth started out as basically an entry level hyper zoanoid. Physical Strength of 45 men, impact absorbing armor that made it impervious to all but the Guyver's most powerful blows. The head beam was useless against it and it's Bio-Lasers were all 4 times more powerful than a Vamore's. The three head horns discharged a powerful corrive acid capable of multing through most materials and could even damage the Guyver Bio-Armor. The Powered Zerebubuth is a creation from the Novel's that wasn't in the Manga and only showed up in the new anime series. Essentially reprocessed after being defeated by G1 this encarnation was augmented with vibrational tri-claws, the heat wave cannon on its left arm combined firepower to produce a infrared laser energy blast 80 times more powerful than a Vamore's. While the body spikes could now generate a vibrational energy field that produced a protective field capable of shielding it from both the sonic buster and pressure cannon. The Powered Zerebubuth's one weakness was the lack of energy reserves to support it's significanly increased powers. Derzerb though was one of the elite Hyper Zoanoids of Team Five. With the Strength of 60 men it was a physical powerhouse of immense strength. The body armor was like concrete and made it impervious to small to medium arms fire, even the anti-zoanoid buster gun Murikami used in the anime and OAV was useless against it. In terms of heat resistance Derzerb is literally fire proof. In fact Aptom, after absorbing Elegan, hit Darzerb was an enhanced Vamore type laser blast and even enhanced it did little but knock Derzerb back a bit. Derzerb's own napalm breath was capable of generating temperatures up to 3900 degrees and Derzerb could also radiate heat energy and used that ability to blast away Aptom when he tried to land on him to absorb him, of course Aptom eventually tricked him and absorbed him anyway. In the WG fan fic we use bio-energy potential as the main factor to determining a Guyver's power level, which is why Guyver Zoanoid is a 2x character instead of a 5x character for example. Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 Yea...but i think hands down, if hyper zoanoid team 5 all got warrior units they would probably be one of the most deadly combination. With the battle mind collective the units have and not to mention warrior tech augmenting their zoanification. and a WG bio-titan could probably beat all 5 of them. dont know at the same time, but with his immense regeneration abilities and his power reserves without the HSL, he'd probably beable to fend off all 5 at once, if not defeat them all. Quote
Juggernought Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 That is if the guyver bio-titan had time to achieve full power. That is one thing i was curious about in high powered zoanoids like that and zoalords when they get guyver units....as far as achieving full power, does this mean knowing the full extent of their abilities or the guyver unit is taking more time to adapt to its host? Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 That is if the guyver bio-titan had time to achieve full power. That is one thing i was curious about in high powered zoanoids like that and zoalords when they get guyver units....as far as achieving full power, does this mean knowing the full extent of their abilities or the guyver unit is taking more time to adapt to its host? remember, the bio-titan already has megasmasher class weapons, it's bio-smashers, it has its own sheilding, which would stack with the WG shielding, and vibrational swords which again would be powered up by the unit not to mention the regen my estimates is that a WG classed bguyver bio-titan could regenerate from just a CM to full body in a couple of minutes tops. in essence, the bio-titans can be seen as non-CMed guyvers. with just their basic weapons being boosted by a unit it could sow lots of devastation, now add in the guyver weapons and one could probably even take out warrior alkanphel if the whole "completely loyal to alk" programming doesnt work because of it having a unit. just taking WGV as an example.... Vamore Base Strength: 5 men WG Vamore Strength: 1000 Men, (should be 2000 if gets the full boost) even using that half strength example, a WG bio-titan would be super powered BT base strength: 200 Men WG BT Strength: 40,000 men (again, only taking half the max) so as you can see, he could physically put the smackdown on pretty much anyone, quiet possibly even anubis if he would make a showing in the WG universe >> Quote
*zeo Posted December 8, 2008 Posted December 8, 2008 That is if the guyver bio-titan had time to achieve full power. That is one thing i was curious about in high powered zoanoids like that and zoalords when they get guyver units....as far as achieving full power, does this mean knowing the full extent of their abilities or the guyver unit is taking more time to adapt to its host? Primarily it takes time for the unit to fully adapt to its host and before such a massive power can become stable. And though Warrior Units allow for the host to quickly learn what they are capable of the immense power takes time to control properly. Quote
McAvoy Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 Going back to the original question. Darzerb was shown to catch and absorb the impact of a running punch from Guyver 3 which the impact equal equals hundreds of tons of pressure. The Powered Zerebubuse has no official strenght level but it could be anywhere between 45 to 60 men or even Guyver level strength. Going off of the WG.com stats, a Guyver Darzerb would be 40x with various abilities varying from 20x to 40x. The armor would be equal or better the Guyver Powered Zerebubuse. Shields would be weaker. The Flame Thrower would probably be strong enough to melt a Guyver or even a Warrior Guyver. The head laser may even be much more powerful than it should be, possibly mega smasher level. Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 Going off of the WG.com stats, a Guyver Darzerb would be 40x with various abilities varying from 20x to 40x. The armor would be equal or better the Guyver Powered Zerebubuse. Shields would be weaker. The Flame Thrower would probably be strong enough to melt a Guyver or even a Warrior Guyver. The head laser may even be much more powerful than it should be, possibly mega smasher level. a guyver Darzerb would have no shields whatsoever, as normal units dont have sheilding and a darzerb has no shielding whatsoever. Quote
*zeo Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 -Aside from radiating intense heat that is. . . So could vaporize anything approaching it as a form of heat shield. Quote
McAvoy Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 remember, the bio-titan already has megasmasher class weapons, it's bio-smashers, it has its own sheilding, which would stack with the WG shielding, and vibrational swords which again would be powered up by the unit not to mention the regen my estimates is that a WG classed bguyver bio-titan could regenerate from just a CM to full body in a couple of minutes tops. in essence, the bio-titans can be seen as non-CMed guyvers. with just their basic weapons being boosted by a unit it could sow lots of devastation, now add in the guyver weapons and one could probably even take out warrior alkanphel if the whole "completely loyal to alk" programming doesnt work because of it having a unit.just taking WGV as an example.... Vamore Base Strength: 5 men WG Vamore Strength: 1000 Men, (should be 2000 if gets the full boost) even using that half strength example, a WG bio-titan would be super powered BT base strength: 200 Men WG BT Strength: 40,000 men (again, only taking half the max) so as you can see, he could physically put the smackdown on pretty much anyone, quiet possibly even anubis if he would make a showing in the WG universe. More like 80,000 men or 800x. Remember that the Bio Titans are easily equal to a Supreme Zoalord in raw power, and they carry immense bio energy reserves due to this. Guyver Powered Zerebubuse's left arm cannon thingie fires a blast 20x mega smasher, which is much more than it should be unless you think Vamores were firing already a little of over 1 ton of TNT (which is alot, much more than your average military plane dropping bombs which are about 350 lbs each out of 500 lbs). So in other words like the Guyver Zoalord is not a straight 200x Guyver or 100x Zoalord, but is mutation. Some abilites will reflect their power level and some will reflect that mutation. For example, a Warrior Guyver Bio Titan could fire a Bio Blast equal to 10 megatons for all we know (or more). Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted December 25, 2008 Posted December 25, 2008 yes, i know it would be closer to 80,000, I was just giving a conservative estimate. 800x i was just going off another warrior based zoanoid as an example of its minimum potential. though if it's a WG2 style unit, it could be temporarily boosted to 1600x.... and im guessing if he could fire a biosmasher and megasmasher combo at the same time, he could fire a blast rating twice that. Quote
McAvoy Posted December 25, 2008 Posted December 25, 2008 CPMs are practically set to only 4x boost, so it would only be 804x. The Warrior Guyver Bio Titan might be 800x but in reality he would be far, far greater than a 400x Bio Titan or 200x Warrior Guyver. He would be able to fire blasts probably in the gigaton range. The Bio Titan's bio crystals would act like amplifiers similar to gravity control orbs on a Gigantic Guyver to boost the power of the Guyver beyond normal. Also regeneration would be practically instant, since the Warrior Guyver would boost the Bio Titan's regneration 1,000x. Quote
Juggernought Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 Well it looks like i will be resurrecting a 2 year old topic....but was wondering if this character were to be used (which i assume it might) where could it possibly get the spare unit from, what kind of unit it is and why would he get it? My assumptions are; 1) it's from the nova relic, not a nova but a regular model found there when chronos stole the black nova units. 2) could be an incomplete nova prototype. Finished to the point that it functions but no where near the power levels and abilities of say Nova Storm or Nova Flare. 3) another creator test unit 4) would be far out there, but it could also be from another universe, possibly from the clan ship or maybe another unit that was secretly brought back from all that dimension hopping Dreadnought and his pals did and somehow chronos got a hold of it. Quote
guyverfanatic Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 Well with the newest chapter out, we can now say that Powered Zerebubuth is canon in the manga! Quote
McAvoy Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 ?? I know he was introduced to the anime but this late in the manga he's being introduced/? The standard unit doesn't have to be from a relic already mentioned. Could be a new one found in some sortyline. Or he could have gotten it from the numerous standard Guyvers running around. Quote
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