OnyxPhoenix Posted January 29, 2008 Posted January 29, 2008 POP! *light bulb goes on and off* Hey, just looked at my previous idea, and yet another one went off in my head. Could some of these stones of power have been influenced / created / empowered by the destruction of the Atrahasis in "Meeting of the Warriors"? That blast of antimatter colliding w/ the vast energies of a star sure would have been enough to smash a large hole in the fabric of reality, as well as the effect of copying most of the characters there, and allowing them to appear in the GWOTG universe. Could it have also fragmented parts of reality there, or maybe even parts of the characters when they were copied? Hmmmmmm, this bears yet more scrutiny than I thought. Edit: Of course, this is when the Clan ship went kaboom as well, so there may yet be some influence from the Creators, but hey, that's just happenstance. Quote
*zeo Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 And cold again. You forgot I said very OLD!!! Quote
Juggernought Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 What about from the universe Guyverxt9 originated from? If i recalled correctly he himself has been around for tens of thousands of years. Quote
OnyxPhoenix Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 From my last post . . . . . DOH! Cratered again! Okay, let's see here . . . the obsidian stone that came w/ XT was one of the stones, and it was found in the same "dimension" that he went through, the Void, to arrive here w/ WG and the gang. It was also said (I believe) that it was a quantum singularity, somewhat like the one inside of Black Nova (or was that the unstable black hole they had to stop?) W/ the power used by XT to get here from himself & the stone, as well as the energies used by Black Nova in-between to try to close the rip, and then again by XT to finally close it and save Earth, I think it can be said that my previous post (the one zeo gave me props on, folks) about how the stones could be fragments of reality, brought to Earth either from XT's entrance, or maybe, from when WG went back in time, fought the GZ, won, and then, returned to Earth to go about his merry way. Hmmmmmm. . . . Here's another possibility I just thought about: could the stones, or maybe just a couple of them, be fragments of a Matrix, like the one they found broken into pieces inside the Clan ship in Australia? The Matrix itself is a very old tool, and is quite powerful even when it is somewhat damaged (Dreadnought!) Could those broken pieces have infused their essence into normal looking stones while healing and rebuilding themselves? And then, when finding suitable, if not knowing, hosts, merge w/ them to continue their path onto complete and total functionality? The human being is a very sophisticated organic computer, u know, and w/ a fragment of a Matrix in them . . . . WHOA. Quote
Aranor Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 Ok, I'll take a stab at it. Could the stones be sharpds of the barrier Jason had to force his way through when traveling through time? I am guessing this could explain its ability to seal the black hole. (super gluing the last piece of a vase together to make it whole again) Something naturally created to hold back the stream of time and universe's would definitely hold a great amount of power. Quote
*zeo Posted January 31, 2008 Posted January 31, 2008 Okay, warmer... OnyxPhoenix, getting the idea but not related to the Matrix (which is WG2 universe). Remember I said WG universe! The singularity was the black hole BN created when she partially lost control of her power. XT and the void stone helped contain it and finally collapse it. The Void stone actually had the same energy as the Void dimension, which is why it got sent there but it is not its point of origin. Remember each stone demonstrates a different power! Aranor, you're getting very close to the event that created the stones but that wasn't it. Try thinking on why the WG universe is unique from the others but also similar? Hint, you two should put both your answers together and start collaborating Quote
Aranor Posted January 31, 2008 Posted January 31, 2008 Ok, the reason why the WG universe is so unique is because it is not the original timeline. Jason is not the first WG to save the world. (Or should not be anyway) So mayhaps the stones are crystals representing individual elements left behind by the timeline that was blocked. A world that should be, has been supressed and remnants of its original energies were forced into what we are seeing as stones. By bonding with a living entity perhaps they will work the energies of the original timeline in an attempt for the stream of time to correct itself. Or am I way off course? Quote
*zeo Posted January 31, 2008 Posted January 31, 2008 Getting warmer but the origin is a bit more complex Quote
Aranor Posted January 31, 2008 Posted January 31, 2008 When you do reveal it I am gonne end up smacking my head on the keyboard and say DUH!....... Anyway.....more complex......wow. Not biological. Not creator created. So I'm guessing they can't be the original timelines Alkanphels crystals....... They wouldn't be crystals generated when the guyver zoalord destroyed the original world would they? Compressed into form from the massive energy released? Quote
Juggernought Posted January 31, 2008 Posted January 31, 2008 Or is it from when the creators formed the barrier around the WG timeline in order to preserve it? Quote
Aranor Posted January 31, 2008 Posted January 31, 2008 They're shards splintered off from me hitting my head on the desk? Ok. How about the barrier sealing the original timeline. Hmm, wait a minute. How about this. They were generated when the original timeline had to split to accept the new one. The tension of one timeline slitting into two (And the closure of one) was enough force to generate them. Kinda like the micoscopic particles that come off when you rip apart a twizzler pull and peel......... Quote
OnyxPhoenix Posted January 31, 2008 Posted January 31, 2008 Ok, I'm back, now let's see where we stand: 1 - The stones are possibly involved w/ the Void, from where/when the entire Multiverse is founded upon in the fanfics (?), as well as hyperspace itself 2 - The event that caused the formation of the stones in the first place is quite ancient, which could possibly be : a) The Guyver Zoalord running unchecked & destroying Earth in one timeline, b) WG going back & stopping him, beginning the timeline divergence, or c) the act of Alkanphel in WG's universe in stopping the rogue planetoid from destroying the Earth. The last one mentioned would have releashed such a huge amount of power that it easily could have breeched the dimensional fabrics of reality, especially when it involved the aspects of gravity, energy generation, energy output, and such vast quantities of matter & mass , as well as being the oldest event of mass destruction in the WG universe (right?) 3 - Each of the stones represent a different power, zeo said. Wynd, for instance, has gained energy projection, enhanced physical attributes, augmented healing, etc., and Zarfel seems to have a much greater affinity than other Zoalords for lightning-based attacks, and for his ability to generate it, too. 4 - The barrier erected around WG's timeline by the WG2 Creators. It was created to prevent the travel of a WG Zoalord to WG2's realm (right?) to prevent such a being from wrecking havoc in their dimension. To wrap this up, I believe that the event that zeo mentioned that caused the creation of these stones is probably one of two events: either Alkanphel saving the Earth from the Creators' little moon strike, or the Guyver Zoalord destroying the original Earth in the past, before WG went back & stopped him. Again, these are the two most ancient events that come to mind, but if there are others of note, drop me a line, fellas. P.S. Aranor, let me know what u think, cause zeo seems to believe that u & I are on the right track for the moment. Quote
Aranor Posted January 31, 2008 Posted January 31, 2008 Onyx, the Alkanphel event is not uniqie to the WG universe. So that is ruled out. The Warriorguyver breaking the barriers I already tried and as the creators put up the barrier, it would be directly created by them thus ruled out. I am thinking it is the strain on the aether/hyperspace/time whatever you wanna call it when one timeline ended and another was formed by something happening in a future that did not exist. If you get into old age mysticism that was forgotten for three hundred years and is now called new age there are sources of elemental energies. Each of these sources spreads over the entire universe allowing for physical manifestation. Perhaps the event that ended the world and restarted it created a burp in these enegies. They were sealed and reopened and the seals are the stones we are seeing. What should have been resting in the aethereal space was forced into the physical world by the intrusion of a false timeline. Ok, a little different than my last but I'm running out of ideas........ Quote
OnyxPhoenix Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 Ok, Aranor, now let's see where that puts us: W/ Alkanphel's actions ruled out, that leaves the Guyver Zoalord destroying Earth in the original time line before WG stopped him. Also, I can believe that esoteric forces in time & space, when acted upon by forces in such vast quantities as GZ's rampage & the divergence in the time line, could become physical manifestations in the real world. A little aside, my nephews watch Avatar: the Last Airbender. In it, it is mentioned that all of the bending elements (air, water, earth, fire), though they are different in their nature, they are all essentially part of the same whole, like the four nations are all part of one people, even though they live their lives differently and along separate values than others. An illusion of separation, they call it. The stone are the same in a way. Same event created them, & they imbue different elements & attributes to their new hosts, but in all, they are the same in their basis of their existence. Quote
Aranor Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 Thats something like what I was getting at. The original timelines elemental origins having been suddenly cut off (sealed) created a crystaline manifestation in teh space that is now the new time line. Quote
OnyxPhoenix Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 S W E E T ! Thanks for the update, Aranor. And, as I'm typing this here, my mind has come across yet another possibility : Could the ancient event of ages past that spawned the stones' birth (strong possibility being the timeline's abrupt interruption and divergence) have been caused by the birth (?) or rise of the Darmon being? The Creators did not bring it into being (?), although they did have a hand in making it stronger, as did the Grakken, and now, both races had to deal w/ its intelligence and growing power. Once Crystallite was on the scene on Earth, as just a small fragment of its being, it took Dreadnought's power level, his Matrix-augmented Control Medal, and yet another Matrix he found while dimension-hopping to finally stop her. Even then, its essence is still contained within the Turbo Unit (yuck!) right now, and the ACTF science guys have it under wraps for study (can anyone say the corporation bigwigs in Aliens being as stupid as can be?) Y I K E S ! Hmmm, just another idea in the mix . . . Quote
exscaped_pyscho Posted February 1, 2008 Author Posted February 1, 2008 Okay lets try another theory of mine....The stones were created by the massive temporal paradox which was created by WG going back in time to alter/preserve the timeline. The basic most primodial energies in the multiverse all combined and the stones were by products of this combination....okay yeah doesn't seem complex enough......The temporal paradox's creation combined with the barrier placed on the timeline all merged together and fed back into the heart of the multiverse which led to the creation of the stones....I don't think I got it with that one either....I'll have to think on this longer. Quote
*zeo Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 Hmm, what can I say... You guys are both incredibly close and cold at the same time... Not your fault though, you're basically missing part of the puzzle... Hint, for the missing piece start thinking out of the box. I can say you are already aware of the missing piece, you just don't know it's the missing piece of the puzzle But if I tell you where to look then I might as well give you the answer, but think fan fic related but also linked to the WG universe. Quote
exscaped_pyscho Posted February 1, 2008 Author Posted February 1, 2008 Well one thought that crossed my mind is the W'kar element. If a sample of this element was on earth in the timeline where Earth was destroyed then it could have provided alot of the elements needed in the creation of the stones. If I'm remembering right the W'kar element can be found on a planet that produces life. Other than that, I can'y really think of anything. Who knows maybe the answer will come to me. Quote
Aranor Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 They're not zoa crystals blown off the Guyver Zoalord are they? Quote
*zeo Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 No, not Zoacrystals... But I think someone just gave you a clue Quote
Kamui de' Tempest Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 If the W'Kar element is made at the creation/destruction of a life giving planet. then are these crystals the product of the creation/destruction of a time line/universe? Quote
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