Aranor Posted October 7, 2007 Posted October 7, 2007 The Zeus upgrade was created when Agito found a ship and used the "Genesis Project". I don't believe it was said if the vessel was absorbed during the process or not so would Agito be able to return to the vessel to further enhance his unit or is he stuck as he is. If, after learning how to use the Zeus upgrade and having found quirks, he could get rid of them and install some things he now wishes he could do or get rid of this and add that. He could give Dreadnaught a run for his money. Quote
exscaped_pyscho Posted October 7, 2007 Posted October 7, 2007 I remember hearing from one or more of the mods that the 'Genesis Project' was a giant leap forward in Unit development, Allowing them to sythasize unit G's or alter them without inducing genetic mutations in exsisting bio booster material. Which if I remember currectly is what takes so long in the development process. I don't think it was intended to create a gigantic-like upgrade as the Creator's had never incountered such a mutation before. I think it was all Agito's doing that led to the Zeus armor being a gigantic like armor. However I don't believe the Relic merged with WG3. The Relic was directly below the underwater temple and that was destroyed when Zeus first emerged. It's currently unknown rather the blast from Zeus's Mega Smasher penatrated far enough into the Earth's crust to reach the Relic. There maybe a chance the Relic survived though. When the three 'Mystery Guyvers' were having their little pow-wow they refered to something being compromised at the temple and that it had been relocated to a more secure area. It's my belief that this was the Genesis Relic, and that the Primitive Guyver and his buddies have been keeping the Relic for themselves throughout the millenia. I have no clue if the Zues Armor could be removed and further altered by the Gen. Project. Although it remains a possible since the armor didn't merge with the host unit. Although rather Agito will get another chance to utilize the Genesis Relic is up in the air. Seeing as it was either destroyed or possible moved to another location. Quote
Juggernought Posted October 7, 2007 Posted October 7, 2007 I think that current unit zues utilizes was incomplete, he just completed it and gave it attributes to match those of the Gigantic Guyver Unit. The only other ways it could be further upgraded is through the matrix or if he got his hands on the Mark II tech. Quote
Aranor Posted October 8, 2007 Author Posted October 8, 2007 The upgrade was done by Agito messing with technology he knows little to nothing about. And I would say he managed a pretty impressive job. If he were to learn more about the technology (Who's to say the ship he performed the upgrade with/in did not reveal to him some of the methods of the creators technology) he could not manage more. The Matrix is helping Jason quite a bit, but again it is foreign technology which he does not fully understand how to use. Quote
Lost Soul Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 Well, from what I got from various discussions arond the Bord: Zeus utilized the knowledge of Solomn stored in the Warrior Unit he posesses in knowing where to find the "Genisis Project". From what we know he found it and created the "Zeus Armor", but in my opinoin he had no idea what he was actually doing, only thing he knew it would be an upgrade to the "Warrior Unit" so he actually thought of an upgrade to the Guyver itself, namely the Gigantic unit, but with some knowledge from Solomn (due to the memorie stored in his own unit) he made what Zeus is now, a Gigantic Upgrade, though a bit more versatile in his mind (weather controll, etc.) As Brian said, Agito with access into the full knowledge stored into Agito's Unit, that would be an Fic-Ender Quote
OnyxPhoenix Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 Aranor wrote: The Zeus upgrade was created when Agito found a ship and used the "Genesis Project". exscaped_psycho wrote: There maybe a chance the Relic survived though. When the three 'Mystery Guyvers' were having their little pow-wow they refered to something being compromised at the temple and that it had been relocated to a more secure area. It's my belief that this was the Genesis Relic, and that the Primitive Guyver and his buddies have been keeping the Relic for themselves throughout the millenia. As to the topic, my good Aranor, if the Genesis Relic is still safe and sound where Agito left it, it is living tech, so it might just be possible for him to further augment the Zeus unit beyond its current power. Also, who knows, he might even be there right now, since he has yet to return to the field of battle during the 7DOH storyline, healing and enhancing himself to be even stronger. Also, the Relic that the Primitive Guyver and his buddies have under wraps doesn't sound like the Genesis Relic to me, exscaped_psycho, especially since it was Chronos who tried to steal it recently, only to have the Guyvers make them into lunch for invading their personal space. They did mention a temple there, but remember, the Genesis Relic and its temple were near the bottom of an ocean when Zeus used his Mega-Smash near it, and there wasn't any mention of Zoanoids swimming through the depths to find it. That site (near Pompeii, I think) was mentioned as being a possible testing ground, so it only makes sense that the mystery boys would keep it well guarded from their enemies. Quote
exscaped_pyscho Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 The Relic the Guyver's defended wasn't the Geness Relic, at least I don't think so. And as far as the Zoaniod's finding it; Zues killed em all before they had the chance to do anything but ketch some rays. Either the 'Mysterious Guyver's' were refering to the Genesis Project or perhaps more Guyver Units that were hidden there. I think the only temple known right now is the one above the Genesis Project, unless you count the Temple above the first Nova Relic (Which was also compromised). So yes the Relic could still be there but I doubt it. None of the triad seem to know anything about the Nova Relics but they know plenty about the Warrior Project and it's various Relics. Quote
Frost Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Well he could be in the process of upgrading his units by merging them and applying the mark 2 upgrade technology..though he is a smart cookie and i guess only time will tell.. Quote
McAvoy Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 We really do not know what he is doing. All we know is that Warrior Guyver 3 used the knowledge store of his unit to locate the Genesis Project and then utilize it to create the Zeus armor. Agito had only the normal Gigantic unit in mind so that's what he used as a basis. He added a second CPM for added power. The Zues armor is not a true Warrior Gigantic. Quote
Frost Posted October 16, 2007 Posted October 16, 2007 Which makes it even more deadly as it can be molded into an even greater weapon all it needs is a little imigination and knowledge. Quote
Aranor Posted October 16, 2007 Author Posted October 16, 2007 If the ship still exists then this means the upgrade was not used in the sense of a gigantic. Thus the possibility of Agito inducing some sort of life jeopardising incident causing the ship to link itself with the Zeus control medal could offer a gigantic upgrade for the Zeus armor. This would put equal in height to Gilgamesh. And possibly as strong if not stronger than Anubis. Quote
Juggernought Posted October 16, 2007 Posted October 16, 2007 Don't think he'd do that, there are too many risks. 1) He's not going to let the Zeus armor go to anyone else, it's just too powerful and its only made for his armor anyway. 2) The circumstances on creating an event that would cause a relic to produce another gigantic is extremely difficult and even if he did, he would be cocooned for a few weeks to months, much like jason was. In that amount of time a lot of things can happen. His best bet would be either to get a matrix for himself, or if he couldn't, find a way to either upgrade his human body or that of his unit and zeus armor. Quote
Aranor Posted October 16, 2007 Author Posted October 16, 2007 I'm not saying let the zeus upgrade go to anyone else, I am saying letting the ship become a gigantic upgrade over the Zeus upgrade. So basically a gigantic Zeus. If he could somehow manage to do this within the Zeus Thunderbolt compound where he could be guarded by his people he would have added protection. Besides, having the upgrade do so to such a large entity might not take so long. Less configurating going from such a large vessel to a small one. Or at least not so small. Quote
McAvoy Posted October 18, 2007 Posted October 18, 2007 Unlikely that's possible, considering that the Zeus unit itself bahaves very similar to a Gigantic, ie Gigantic cocoon, three layered large control medal and so forth. The only difference between the Warrior Gigantic of Dreadnought's and Zeus's is that Zeus's was not made naturally. It was created by WG3's imagination and memory store of his unit. Quote
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