Shenzon Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 I have a question, what kind of abilities would Ultimus have if Warrior Guyver C was merged with a matrix? As I'm pretty sure in his Gigantic form, the Matrix would take advantage of the power upgrade. Just asking for speculations and ideas... Could it be possible that the Matrix could make the bond permanent? Any ideas...? Quote
Juggernought Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 Well, i think since WGC is pretty much the same as Warrior Guyver and WG2, his enhancements would be similar to that of Dreadnoughts in enhancing its warrior attributes and granting it similar quantum powers. It could possibly take full advantage of the giant unit and permanently merge it with the base unit because we already see a similar effect with the normal acears on the other warrior guyvers with its partial merger. Because the CPM's are tied up in creating the comet attack i think the matrix would grant ultimas a way of powerboosting past his 1,000 men limit. I believe Dreadnought's ability to powerboost is there to make up for the fact that he doesn't have CPMs and is unable to do so naturally. Quote
Shenzon Posted July 29, 2007 Author Posted July 29, 2007 Yeah thats true, he is similar to WG and WG2. But since he's Matrix created, would that make a difference in his outcome? Hopefully it would shrink him some, as 16ft can be a disadvantage Quote
Juggernought Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 Matrix created or not, he's a full fledged warrior guyver. How the unit got that way i dont think matters as far as enhancements are concerned. Quote
Crom Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 I believe the Matrix would make modifications to the Giant Unit more so than his Warrior Unit.(Seeing as how upgrades are in, instead of having powerful regular units) Quote
McAvoy Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Well, first of all as Matrix Warrior Guyver c he would possess similar abilities to Matrix Warrior Guyver. The only difference would be whether or not Max wants to be even stronger. Then the Matrix could make him stronger through zoaforming or maybe even upgrading the unit even more so. The Giant unit would either be merged with his base unit upgraded of course, which I think he'll have the strength of 2,000 men give or take. Or his Giant unit would become a semi-Gigantic unit which again would give him the strength of 2,000 men. Quote
guyverfanatic Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Well, first of all as Matrix Warrior Guyver c he would possess similar abilities to Matrix Warrior Guyver. The only difference would be whether or not Max wants to be even stronger. Then the Matrix could make him stronger through zoaforming or maybe even upgrading the unit even more so.The Giant unit would either be merged with his base unit upgraded of course, which I think he'll have the strength of 2,000 men give or take. Or his Giant unit would become a semi-Gigantic unit which again would give him the strength of 2,000 men. Would the Matrix be able make him shorter if the Matrix merged the units together so it would be a little more compact? Quote
McAvoy Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Possibily, but it could use that extra space for more stuff. But I see Matrix Ultimus as being around the ten foot range should the Matrix convert the Giant unit. Quote
Shenzon Posted July 31, 2007 Author Posted July 31, 2007 The shrinking part would be great. I think 16ft would be a disadvantage. Quote
guyverfanatic Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 The shrinking part would be great. I think 16ft would be a disadvantage. Me too. He'd be too tall to fight some enemies. I think 10-11 foot range would be better than 16 feet. Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 I believe it was stated ultimus is only 1 foot bigger thanwhen giant guyver was seperate... so i doubt it would shrink him that much, perhaps 14 foot at most. Quote
Juggernought Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Being that big would only mean he'd have a disadvantage in close range combat, but from a distance he would excel in long range high powered attackes...much like W'kar suggested to Gilgamesh. Quote
McAvoy Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Remember that if the Matrix can enhance or modify Giant unit but it's only how he wants the Giant unit to be. Remember that the Matrix responds to the user will. So if Max wants to be smaller but stay as powerful, the Matrix can do that. Quote
Shenzon Posted July 31, 2007 Author Posted July 31, 2007 I have a different question, if Ultimus was completely vaporized to where only the control medals were intact. Would the Acear unit be able to regenerate as well? Quote
W'Kar Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 While connected to an actual guyver unit like WGC, yeah. If done so with only the Aceaer, no. Quote
McAvoy Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Remember two things: 1. Aceaer Marine was killed by fatel wounds that the Aceaer could not regenerate. 2. Aceaer Guyver Faye's Aceaer removed itself when her control medal was damaged by Kron. 3. Aceaer Warrior Guyver was sent to hyperspace by Grakkens in Rescue. So Aceaers when bonded to Guyvers with control medals, as long as the control medal is no damaged or destroyed, it can regenerate along with the Guyver itself. Without it, the Aceaer would remove itself from the dead body. Quote
W'Kar Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Though if the Aceaer unit had an attack against it quick and strong enough it may not be able to teleport away fast enough and could get destroyed along with the host. Quote
Shenzon Posted July 31, 2007 Author Posted July 31, 2007 Too bad the Acear Marine didn't have the Giant Unit, he could have taken down that Bio-Titan. What if a Warrior Control medal gets damaged, because of its ability to repair itself, would the Giant unit still deactivate, or detect that the control medal could still repair itself? And continue to function as Jason proved during his powered down forms. Quote
Kamui de' Tempest Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 This might be alittle off topic but....when a Matrix interacts with a Unit or other form of tech, does it remember it. like a browser history on a web browser, except more detailed? Cause if so, Jason has WGC's data as well as others which might allow him to update his repertoire of abilities with those gleamed from other Units? Quote
W'Kar Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 I can't answer that question directly, but I can say this. Why wouldn't it? Quote
Kamui de' Tempest Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Well, if that's the case then Dreadnaught has even more untapped potential than he realizes. Wish someone would hand him the "Matrix for dummies" book. Quote
Shenzon Posted July 31, 2007 Author Posted July 31, 2007 Well, if that's the case then Dreadnaught has even more untapped potential than he realizes. Wish someone would hand him the "Matrix for dummies" book. hahaha.... Quote
guyverfanatic Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Remember that if the Matrix can enhance or modify Giant unit but it's only how he wants the Giant unit to be. Remember that the Matrix responds to the user will. So if Max wants to be smaller but stay as powerful, the Matrix can do that. How powerful would Ultimus be if the Matrix just merged the two units together? Quote
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