Juggernaught datafile

[McAvoy]

Haha. I haven´t really thought too much about the background of Dark Warrior. I do know that the 500x is the absolute base level and can be rapidly boosted because of the qunatum singularity and Matrix.

You are correct about Juggernaught in a certain way. At his base level, both Dreadnought and Juggernaught would be different but when they power boost they´re nearly identical because they are bringing the full power of their units to bear.

For instance the Gravity Shield and the CPMs are similar level of tehcnology. The Matrix enhancement basically enhances this to their max. which in the end is more or less similar.

[McAvoy]

*bump* one year ahead

Didn't feel the need to create a whole new post on this subject and considering the state of the forums of late, I guess it doesn't matter.

It's been a year and for the post part Part 1 is finished. It needs to be polished and one part has to be typed down. I typically write by hand then type it. It's much easier for me for smoother writing. Ideas come more freely for me through writing by hand.

Part two may or may not suprise you.

Anyway, anyone still interested in the story of Juggernaught?

[Juggernought]

I'm still interested, definitely..i was always interested in those concepts, especially the Zeus II unit, since i was considering using that in one of my fics, which are needless to say, postponed until i can find a break....life after college, pure hell.

[McAvoy]

Well, I'll be someone named Juggernought interested in a story about a character named Juggernaught.

Ok, anyone care to speculate on Juggernaught? Keep in mind the old datafile is obsolete. While Juggernaught at his base is identical to Dreadnought, there is a key difference that seperates them apart.

[Juggernought]

I think the main differences will come from the advanced functions of the CPM in itself and when enhancing other systems. Possiblities:

- Easier ability of utilizing zoalord type attacks.

- Possibly allowing him to bypass that power boosting set back of reverting to the powered down guyver state once the 15 minute time limit so that he just powers down to the regular Juggernaught form.

- Maybe this jason will allow the matrix to fuse the wg base form to the gigantic unit, similar to zagam.

- His human form has been further enhanced

- Flexible use of subjects shields for a variety of effects.

- he'd be able to very quickly store energy with his cpms and hsl of readily accessible powerful attacks, plus his cpm's could be formed into weapons limited only by his imagination.

- He'd be able to affect gravitational, plasma and other kinds of energy all around him on a much wider scale.

[McAvoy]

First off, Juggernaught is not Jason O'Conner. It's Stephen Cain. The original datafile at the begining of this topic is very old and I never spotted the typo.

Remember that the Matrix will bring practically any unit to Dreadnought levels without doing anything to the host itself. So a Type 2 more or less would be very, very similar to the Type 1. In effect, it would have to be host's will to change anything else. For example, WG3 would be a fic ender because his thirst for power would grant him a very, very powerful host body. Jason abhores this so remains what he is now. Stephen Cain is more like Jason then Agito. He is a Marine and more than anything else would like to keep his human form. However, because Marines would like an advantage over the opponent would allow a slight improvement.

Also, the host of Juggernaught is a slightly different Stephen Cain than the WG2 or AM versions. He's more cold, and calculating and aggressive.

He's more geared towards hand to hand fighting and firepower. Essentially, even a master hand to hand fighter like W'Kar would have a hard time. To top it all off, he's more brutal in how he kills.

[Juggernought]

So then you are saying the difference between Juggernaught and Dreadnought would mainly be present in the host? Change in personality, different fighting style, physical changes, experiences etc..?

[*zeo]

Yup, yes, yeah, affirmative, positive, Aye, definitely.

WG2's and WG units aren't really all that different to begin with, and the Matrix is basically the big equalizer as it allows both host and unit to be reconfigured and upgraded. So it falls to the host to set the limits.

[McAvoy]

What he said.

Remember that Jason could always make himself have the power of a Guyver Zoalord or stronger at any time. The reason why he doesn't is because he likes being human. Stephen Cain more or less is the same way, he'll just 'cheat' a little.

[Shenzon]

Hey McAvoy! Sorry I'm late, but I would definately be interested in reading the story of Juggernaught. That short story you wrote sometime ago was great. I've read it a few times myself.

[McAvoy]

Good to hear. Though that short story was a preview of the full story of Part1 of the story.

I had it practically finished a few months ago, but I got hit with some virus off of the internet. I had to wipe my computer and thankfully my external hard drive wasn't hit but I didn't update it in a long time. So, now I am reconstructed the missing parts right now and updating it the story flow much better.

[McAvoy]

I think the main differences will come from the advanced functions of the CPM in itself and when enhancing other systems. Possiblities:

- Easier ability of utilizing zoalord type attacks.

- Possibly allowing him to bypass that power boosting set back of reverting to the powered down guyver state once the 15 minute time limit so that he just powers down to the regular Juggernaught form.

- Maybe this jason will allow the matrix to fuse the wg base form to the gigantic unit, similar to zagam.

- His human form has been further enhanced

- Flexible use of subjects shields for a variety of effects.

- he'd be able to very quickly store energy with his cpms and hsl of readily accessible powerful attacks, plus his cpm's could be formed into weapons limited only by his imagination.

- He'd be able to affect gravitational, plasma and other kinds of energy all around him on a much wider scale.

Believe it or not out of 4 out of 8 of our possibilities are correct. Sorry for not responding sooner, I think I skipped your post by accident or something. I'll leave it to you which ones are the right ones.

Though I'll give you a clue, he's not like Dreadnought. If Dreadnought was defense oriented, then Juggernaught is offensive.

[Juggernought]

True...if i had to take a guess, the main focus of Juggernaught would be;

- CPM enhancement for more power/energy manipulation and weaponry.

- Better ability at siphoning and storing all forms of energy for more powerful attacks.

- Slight changes in his human form in order for him to handle more energy.

- Fusion of the gigantic to host unit.

my reasoning being....

1) The regular cpms acts much like the gravity shield on the prototype unit, they just provide instantaneous boosts of power for a relatively short time. Enhancing this would remove that limitation.

2) With the matrix he now has access to nearly all forms of energy to power his systems rather than relying on gravitational and energy pulled from hyperspace.

3) i figured this jason is more willing to do whatever it takes to win...within reason...he fully understands the limitations of a human body and would probably allow the matrix to change him only so far as to handle the higher level of energy his unit can now manipulate.

4) He probably already figured out that if Agito could remove Sho's gigantic (when there was 1) with sheer will power, another WG could do the same to him. Fusing it with the primary unit would take away this likelyhood. Also it saves from it being deactivated after a powerful attack or prolonged boost mode.

So, did i hit on most of them or should the list be revised?

[McAvoy]

CPM enhancement for more power/energy manipulation and weaponry.

Notr exactly. CPMs are HSL on crack. Doesn't work that way. The Power Wave ability is far more efficient.

Better ability at siphoning and storing all forms of energy for more powerful attacks.

Dreadnought can do this as well. Juggernaught is about equal in this respect as well.

Slight changes in his human form in order for him to handle more energy.

Yes and no. His human form was altered for a different reason.

Fusion of the gigantic to host unit.

Yes and no.

The regular cpms acts much like the gravity shield on the prototype unit, they just provide instantaneous boosts of power for a relatively short time. Enhancing this would remove that limitation.

Not really. Like I said the Power Wave ability is much better at this. Though Juggernaught I can say has multiple CPMs.

With the matrix he now has access to nearly all forms of energy to power his systems rather than relying on gravitational and energy pulled from hyperspace.

No not really. He still relies on his three HSLs very much like Dreadnought. He does not drain any energy of any kind. Though if he wanted he could activate the Darmon system.

i figured this jason is more willing to do whatever it takes to win...within reason...he fully understands the limitations of a human body and would probably allow the matrix to change him only so far as to handle the higher level of energy his unit can now manipulate.

Nope. The original datafile had a typo. It was no Jason O'Conner but Stephen Cain. Juggernaught is WG2. He doesn't understand the Matrix that much to inact those sort of changes. His differences between Dreadnought and himself are the differences in personality.

He probably already figured out that if Agito could remove Sho's gigantic (when there was 1) with sheer will power, another WG could do the same to him. Fusing it with the primary unit would take away this likelyhood. Also it saves from it being deactivated after a powerful attack or prolonged boost mode.

No, wrong reason. The merging was based on Stephen Cain's own personality.

[Zoaknight]

Impressive data file! Chronos is lucky Juggernaut does not dwell in their dimension, Dreadnought is bad enough!

I imagine Juggernaut is a massive headache for the Gen of Warrior Guyver 2's world to deal with

[OnyxPhoenix]

True, Zoaknight, but I imagine getting surprised by that enhanced Enforcer Kavzar mentioned in that little preview was not fun. Still, like Dreadnought, he's like the energizer bunny (going, going, and going)...

p.s. My bad, I meant an Enforcer-class Warrior Kavzar. Ouch!

Edited January 30, 2011 by Guest

[McAvoy]

Impressive data file! Chronos is lucky Juggernaut does not dwell in their dimension, Dreadnought is bad enough!

I imagine Juggernaut is a massive headache for the Gen of Warrior Guyver 2's world to deal with

No, he would be at best be a small thorn in their side. That little rock in your shoe that doesn't hurt you but annoys you.

The datafile has been ready for three, almost four years now to be posted. Unfortunately, I did draw a really good drawing him a couple of years ago after about 2,000 attempts. Newver got around to scanning it and it became a toy for the puppy mastiff and cat i have now.

[OnyxPhoenix]

Aw, nuts! Would have liked to have see that one!

[McAvoy]

Well the puppy is fully grown 200 lb. dog that is eating me out of house and home. The cat just leaves fur all over the place.

Anyway, I am getting back into drawing again. So I may draw a new one. As for the datafile and story, I will look over it this week. Maybe post it on Saturday.

[OnyxPhoenix]

McAvoy wrote:

Anyway, I am getting back into drawing again. So I may draw a new one. As for the datafile and story, I will look over it this week. Maybe post it on Saturday.

SWEET......

[Zoaknight]

McAvoy wrote: Anyway, I am getting back into drawing again. So I may draw a new one. As for the datafile and story, I will look over it this week. Maybe post it on Saturday.

Awesome news, I look forward to it

[OnyxPhoenix]

Same here, and this time, keep it away from the pets! Yeesh!

[McAvoy]

I remember why it took me 2,000 attempts to draw a good one of Juggernaught. I suck at drawing Gigantic Guyvers epecially special ones like Juggernaught. If you think about it, Juggernaught it not a mere Warrior version of a Gigantic. He would have differences, especially in the shoulder pods.