Super Existence

I know and that's a crying shame. It does not deserve to be at number #1 it is not the greatest movie of all time not by a long shot.

I wasn't expecting too much. In fact I was expecting to dislike it and I did. You're mentioning money but Independace day was the top earner when that came out knocking everything else off the number one slot. Now people barely remember it.

I just watched this on an IMAX screen tonight....I wasn't impressed and all this geekdom for it is going over my head. I honestly wanted to like this...really I did and I was hoping I'd be proved wrong like I have with many other films like The Mist, Fellowship of the Rings, No Country For Old Men, Iron Man. I'm not an arrogant guy I'll admit when I'm wrong but my God I just don't get it. The Good: --Yes, Heath Ledger was good in it, he made the joker his own and I was impressed. Was it the performance of a decade? No. He just took a daft role and made it into a serious one (im not underplaying what he did here). But I still found Javier Bardem in No Country a much more interesting and sinister bad guy. --The script had pretty good dialogue. --The Batpod (I would like one). The bad: Man where to begin? --I found the atmosphere of the movie cold, dull, flat and lifeless. --The directing was a bit so what, no innovative shots or lighting. --The movie was set in the real world too much, so much so it made The Batman character stand out as daft and unrealistic. The Joker is more over the top than Batman and I believed he could exist more in that world than the Dark Knight. --What was with Batman's voice? He sounded ridiculous and everytime he got angry his growling tempo got all the more ludricous. --Too many characters and when certain ones were killed off I didn't care one jot. --Way too long at 2.5 hours, I was bored halfway through this film. --The plot was too convoluted, look away for a second and you're lost. --Batman's suit was cack, looked like Solid Snake with ears. Much more preffered the Tim Burton Batuit. --His Batmobile is the ugliest looking piece of crap I've ever seen. I don't care if it's realistic. It looks like five mangled cars fused together. --No style to the movie. It was like Heat and then they'd suddenly shoved Batman into it. It needs to be a stylistic movie. And I don't care if this is how Frank Miller did it, so what? --Felt like a commercial for flash cars, expensive phones and trips abroad. --Batman kidnapping the guy from Japan. I'm sure that could have been done a lot less risky than the way he did it. --What happened to the party scene after Batman rescued that woman? The Joker was in there surrounded by all those people and then it cut to the next day like nobody gave a damn. I really wanted to like this movie but It didn't affect me in the slightest. I didn't hate it, I didn't like it. Emotionally I felt bored.

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Interesting. It's the vibe I got from the trailer. They seem to be trying to ground such a ridiculously flamboyant comic book character too much in reality. The fact is all of that is completely irrelevant. It doesn't matter where Batman got his gear from or how he operates. If you accept a man in a costume with ears is fighting crime you'll buy into all of the rest without a massive explanation. I think it's getting such a buzz because films have been so Godawful lately that anything remotely good is hailed as the saviour of the film industry. I never compare modern movies to other modern movies, I compare them to the greats like Alien, 2001, Taxi Driver, Etc. Compared to movies of that calibre most modern movies fall short.

If you go on the IMDB and check it out you'll see that TDK is at number one in the top 250 movies of all time. Are you seriously telling me that this movie is better than movies which changed the world of cinema forever? Blad Runner, Alien, Goodfellas, 2001. It's even knocked the Godfather off the number one spot. The fact is People shouldn't be allowed to vote on a new movie until it's been out for a year and they hype has died down. These are children for the most part giving it ten out of ten minutes after coming home from the cinema. I find it a little insulting to all those great movies of the past which are being ignored. I understand why, it's because most modern films are so awful when something marginally good comes out like this or Iron Man it's lauded as the greatest movie ever. People also see movies as an intelligence test for some reason. If a person likes a movie which is crap and they are told that they tend to defend it quite vehementely because they think if the films crap that makes me stupid but it just means you enjoyed it. I haven't seen TDK but I really doubt it's better than the movies I've mentioned above to name a few.

I also despise the new batmobile and I do mean DESPISE. They're trying to root everythign batman has too much in reality when it doesn't matter where his stuff came from. It isn't relevant to his character or the plot, he's a multi millionaire. Who gives a damn? Also what's the Bat Bike he rides in? It look like a complete ripoff of Batman Begins when the Batmobile goes through that alley sheds it's sides and turns into the bat bullet only less good. I think the biggest mistakes they're making are stylistic ones they are trying too hard to root batman into today's reality and it's such a ludricous concept there's no point. That's why Burtons worked so well, it was in all respect a fantyasy film set in film noir gangster backdrop which was perfect and it hasn't been beaten yet. My only gripe with the Burton movie was it was a little slow and The Joker did upstage batman here and there but it still hasn't been beat. It really wound me up though when it came out and suddenly THAT was the greatest comic book movie ever made. Now that it's been out for some time most People are seing it's weaknesses and the same will happen with this one too probably. I mean come on. If the sequel wasn't coming out most People would have utterly forgotten about Batman Begins just as they did with King Kong. Something's new that makes it amazing...Yeesh.

I was never keen on Batman Begins and this one looks even more dull. I t's got too many villains and characters and too hi-tech looking. Batmans gothic and this movie's set in the same city as Iron man or something with everyone driving flash looking Audi's. Bale doesn't really look good as Bruce Wayne or Batman. I also think the batsuit looks WAY too hi-tech looking. If it didn't have the hood the cape and the gauntlets it would be something solid snake would wear.

We do have proof Gigantics armour is better than zoalords. Gigantics head beam punctured Imakarums side and when Gigantic Dark shot himself via Yentuis portholes he was barely grazed. So far we have no idea how fast a Guyver can fly as we have never seen him fly from two fixed points within a set time period. I also dare say he can do it indefinitely or at least for a long time, so far the only ability of Guyvers that canot be sustained is the megasmasher.

The head beam on both Guyver and Gigantic has little effect on the armours. Gigantic shot the headbeam through several walls and punctured Imakarums side.

Purgstall was not damaged by his own lightning, GG used his power punch at the moment of impact. It's power was diminshed by the lightning bolt but it was enough to caue internal injuries to Purgstall.

I'd completely forgotten about this little project. Good work.

The bio-boosted clone monster seemed to be a fusion of Guyver and human dna, like the fly movie. The reason the clone monster has none of the guyvers orbs is because the control medal forces the Guyver tissue to form them they aren't a natural part of the bioboosted organism. There's a gravity orb on the unit itself probably as that could be one of the most complex parts to form so it could be it would need to be ready in an emergency. Every time a unit G has reformed it has had nothing but the Cm and some tissue which means conclusively that the G orb is organic just like the rest of the orbs sans the CM. Guyver is a bioweapon and apart from the CM contains no technological components. I also disagree about the debreifing; you're making out that the gigantic is relevant when it utterly isn't in relation to understanding Guyver that was a fusion between a unit-G and the navigation orbs of the Relic a total and utter freak occurrence it wasn't meant to happen, it's not as if the control medal spontaneously evolved without any outside influence, the Guyver didn't evolve it fused with another device. And yes you're right about the viz translations but saying it's the scientists saying the equivalent of WOW is presumptuous. So far in Guyver Takaya never has someone say something that's utterly untrue simply to shock. So far everything a character says has a purpous unless it is subterfuge within the plot of the books. I also acknowledged that Guyvers understanding is updated with a new revealed offensive or defensive ability but the Guyvers basic understanding will have been gathered from Guyver 2 such as boost dimension siphoning and control medal basic operations. Read my posts in full please.

The Gravity orb is part of the organism as when sho regrew from the control medal all that was left was the medal and the entire Guyver regrew from that as did all the other metal orbs

It has never said anywhere that between the debriefing episode I mentioned and now that the Guyvers functions were further understood by cronos. They never exaggerated the megsmashers power and then changed their minds later on. Agito first mentioned the boost dimension and as he had access to Cronos knowledge this would have come from their tests on G2 from way back. Cronos would have known about this from very early on. I think if anything Cronos 's understanding of the unit-G has advanced very little since G2's tests and any new information comes from the Guver showing a new battle or survival ability.

The Guyver uses the Gravity orb to siphon energy from the booost dimension which implicates that it uses gravity to accomplish this. Normal zoanoids don't have gravity abilites. It would surely mean that each cell of a zoanoid has gravitational siphoning abilites. But also in the Viz translation of the comics Chronos were doing a large debreifing where they show the majority of chronos and some of the zoalords what the Guyver is capable of. When the mega smasher fired the text from the scientists was... 'No way!' 'What happens to the law of conservation of energy?' 'It's...it's as if it recreates in miniature...the big bang!' If the translation is accurate we do have an example of that law being broken in Guyver universe.

Carpenters Thing was based on the original novel 'Who Goes there' and was intensly faithful to the novel unlike the 50's version which had to change it as 50's effects couldnt pull off the imitator. He didnt update it with a better monster it was the way it was meant to be. As for Aptom doing this incredibly quickly, yeah there is that issue but also Zoaforms changing so very quickly is a little unrealistic. I suppose at that point you have to forgive the comic book glitches and just take it as red that's what's meant to happen.

It was in America damn I wish I still had it. It came out when Viz comics had just released the chapter when Sho teamed up with Murakami for the first time to go to relics point. I remember the cover and everything, he mentioned a lot of his influences in there like Godzilla and so forth. I'm sure I've heard this thing reference mentioned somewhere else. As the thing carries it's memories over from victim to victim as Aptom does it seems to fit. The only way the thing differs from Aptom is when it takes over a human being it not only absorbs its genetic codes it's capable of absorbing your knowledge so it looks and act just like the original you. This is an ability that Aptom doesn't seem to have, the ability to eat his victims knowledge. 'The Thing' movie makes out in a deleted scene that's the aliens cell is not a normal cell structure as we understand it. It's something entirely new which can give the appearance of any kind of cell, it also makes out that The Thing might be able to imitate vegetable matter, something I've always wondered if Aptom was capable of. Could he absorb a tree and power himself via sunlight through Photogenesis.

http://www.outpost31.com/movie/faq.html They explain the things lifecycle here look at Is Blair's computer program accurate?

I think also that a lot of scientific explanations that come from the different books can sometimes be inaccurate. When Aptom disguised as Gaster touched Derzerbs arms and Zx-tole destroyed him, as Derzerb begins to be assimilated in the Viz books he said: 'Aptoms emulation system was already seeping in.' In the Chuang Yi: 'He's already taken control of his nervous system' From doing the scanlations I think it's especially difficult to narrow down excatly what Takaya means as Japanese is so difficult to translate.

I always thought the emulation system worked like John Carpenters the thing. Aptoms cell takes over the foreign cell literally eating it. It then imitates the cell to avoid the immune system, splits in half and those cells move onto the next targets. Aptom absorbed Derzerb just by touching him ZX-Tole then destroyed the original but Aptoms cell were already in his body taking him over from the inside out. It must have something to do with his cells copying themselves and using the original as base matter as a single touch can cause a takeover? Also Aptom seems able to encode his intelligence at the molecular level, so with a single touch you have a duplicate Aptom. Also Aptom himself said that when he takes over an organism he keeps there abilities and the left over matter can be transformed into energy, so if his cells have all they need instead of copying themselves continuosly they break down the foreign cells into proteins maybe Some of these theories maintain that Aptom has to be there in full to do this job were the Manga thus far has shown that a single aptom cell can take over an entire organism. He also took over 3 DEAD combatants, surely their cells would be incapable of the initiate stages of a zoaform changeover being a dead cell. Aptom just used them as base matter to copy himself. It should also be noted that in an interview with Takaya in Animerica I read a long while ago that Aptom was inspired by John Carpenters 'The Thing'

Thanks for the link but I have to say so far I prefer the ones I did, yes there's no crease but those images are very grainy and look like a bad colour process like 12 bit colour or something. I wouldn't mind Ryuki taking a look but I'm not overly keen so far.

The advents use a stasis field on Guyver units to preserve them. Why not on themselves. The books made out that dinosaurs were a mistake as they didn't develop in the way they'd hope so they demolished the experiment with a meteor. This gives the impression that they waited for the millions of years for the dinosaurs to play to see what would happen but they proved a genetic dead end. What if they use a similar stasis field on themselves as the G-unit. They set an experiment in motion, put themselves into stasis, then thousands or millions of years later come out of stasis to see the results. Any intelligent life form even ones as potentially long-lived as the advents would surely suffer from mental stagnation just sat waiting over the eons for experiments to play out. A form of stasis makes their long lived capabilities a moot point.

It's never been stated in such a way and seeing as the navi spheres and the regular control medal merged I don't see why it's impossible for it to happen, especially seeing as all navis spheres would probably communicate with each other for when they where flying through space sending information to each ship etc. Also, navi spheres are slaved to respond to a being merged with a control medal, they'd probably respond to any command. Also, the text about the artificial control medal is a direct translation of what is being said. Balcus says they studied the medal and made their own. Liskers was destroyed.

Perhaps Agito will override the Gigantics programming with the new spheres instead of creating a new one he could somehow reprogramme it so only he can call it. When Agito first used it Sho had to call it and allow Agito to use it. Although I don't believe for a second that's the limit of his plans for them.