Tora Tan

I think it signifies more of a changing trend amongst japanese boys. since actual relationships are on a decline, more japanese men are seeking relationships with video game characters, comic book characters, love pillows, etc. This may sound disparaging but It's not, it is actual truth. This seems to be reflected in what Monthly Ace is advertising. edit: I question though... is it doing this to increase desire in an effort to push boys to pursue women more, or is it training them to have affections for fictional characters?

I think it was noted somewhere that Barcas was processed relatively recently. like it was done by A Heckering or something like that.

Genzo makishima boasts about having success with the development of zoanoids. his age... can't be more than 60. so from 1985 or thereabouts, if we put his birthday around 1925 or later, he could have been 20 years old in 1945. maybe. it's unlikely he would have been in cronos working on zoanoids before that. I think we can safely guess that moderately successful zoanoids first started to take form in the 60s or 70s. 50s at a real push. I'm just guessing.

yes I would say that zoalords could survive nukes because they have their barrier don't they. I was re-reading today and I noticed that zoanoids were probably not around in 1945. I say this because of how gyuot talks about how the zoanoid development was increasing after japan branch had been successful. it seems to me that zoanoids were not really made properly until the latter part of the 20th century.

surely you're joking.... a nuke will melt granite. I really can't see any zoanoid surviving that, hyper or otherwise.

nukes existed in world war 2. I would say job done.

I think if it talks from a third person at any point, then maybe that is the right one. I say that because the ambiguity sometimes comes when pronouns are omitted etc. I think that makes sense?

ain't that apocalypse??

Guyver Advocacy were afforded a great luxury. being the only ones who translated guyver, they could actually help protect it from piracy to some degree and help to push the franchise. more popular series just can't do that because if one group limits translations, another group will do it anyway. is that out of date though? most of those group members, I haven't really seen around here lately.

It has been said before. main influences are megadiver and godzilla. Then Takaya was asked to make it more grotesque. that's what gave us guyver. There may be more in it though of course so your suggestions are really interesting to consider.

Yuki posted the novels in a thread just below this one. is it the same book or a different one?

the g unit is a tool. I think we need to consider if the unit would bond with a species that is not naturally inclined to make use of tools. I mean, the unit configures itself based on the host. in terms of humans, humans are warlike. we often think of ways to defeat our enemies. that instinct is very likely the source of guyvers weaponry. a t-rex' instinct includes chasing prey, catching it and eating it. in my mind, the only thing a unit would do with a t-rex is make it run faster. I do find it interesting that the guyver does not increase mating potential. or maybe that is what the unit retraction is about? maybe that is a mechanism that exist in humans because of the need to mate? maybe if the guyver bonded to a species that was not sexual, then it would not have a mechanism to be stowed in the boost dimension?

yes, that is tabross. I don't think anyone is debating that. tabross are developed for desert operations, their tail can take down an elephant, they are made for extreme strength and very likely designed specifically to take on tanks. we don't have data on their strength level, but I think it's safe to assume it is more than 30. probably not over 9000 though, so I don't think a tabross could beat goku. Edit: zerbebuth was 45 times as powerful as a human, and at our current stage in the manga, Kronos has managed to not only reproduce him, but improve on his design. I think at the time of x-day a zoanoid with reasonable adoption numbers, stronger than that was probably likely. in his datafile tabross does look more stronger built than zerbebuth, more like darzerb.

In the manga panels in book 9 that show tabross lifting a tank, we know what part of the world that is happening. In the panel above with the diagram, there is no information saying where in the world that is. it could be anywhere, even some barren land near a tank museum or a military testing facility. if it were the middle east, we would expect to see tabross. and I can't imagine a gregole trying to lift a tank if they are in a place where tabross are deployed. it wouldn't be good military tactics. so I don't think that image is showing an active war zone where tanks would normally be deployed. also, in that one picture is a single vamore. in book 9 and in the visualdatafile, lots of vamore were lined up in formation. that seems to be their military tactic in the middle east, but here there is only one of them so I don't think it is the same place we saw in book 9.

I think it is safe to say that a gregole cannot lift a 50 ton tank. That is why I was attempting to point out that the drawing that we have assumed is a gregole is not a gregole but more likely a tabross or just another zoanoid that looks similar. it is such a small drawing and very little detail and what details are there can be applied to a tabross, if we forgive a lack of tail? and we saw a tabross lifting a tank on xday the first time round anyway. The image that alkanfel linked for us after that, is not an official datafile for gregole, it's been pieced together by a fan. the datafiles for gregole never show it lifting a tank. there are no official images showing gregole lifting a tank. just a small figure of a zoanoid that looks a lot like gregole but is probably a badly drawn tabross. It may seem like we are wildly off topic but I think it is all relevant. I think it goes to show that we can expect some level of consistency from guyver. things that seem outlandish can surely be explained? like for example, cablarl in brain mode, can easily be constructed of a sponge like structure. it's highly likely that the structure and configuration is most important to amplify his powers. inside could be a lattice, like a radio tower or something. I'd like to think that there is this sort of consistency and that it allows us to be able to make real world comparisons with them. well at least I'd rather think that way than just say it's all nonsense. Edit: I just wondered if it was a different tank from an abrams, because everyone seemed to just accept that it was an abrams, one of the heaviest tanks. It seems light tanks can weight from as little as 6 tons. I did a google search for light tank and there are a lot of tanks that look like the one in the drawing. So this could actually feasibly be a gregole lifting a light tank, or a gregole variant? also, we can't see the back of the tank. there could be another zoanoid there or the tank could be resting on a small hill. If a gregole can lift up to 7.5 tons normally... then if the centre of gravity of that tank was just behind him, and the rear was resting on a hill, then the weight of the tank could be 1.1 - 1.5 times his maximum strength? I'm just guessing here. it's possible that if this is gregole, it could be lifting something maybe up to 11 tons? looking at a small diagram guessing the possible size and position of the ground and the outline of the tank and where the centre of gravity could be, I think it's possible

guyver always seemed more grounded in reality though didn't it? I realise it won't be perfect, but i think it has more consistency than most marvel comics. Salkafar, I was really just hoping to suggest possibilities because I think it is easy to assume things but what if it is possible to have them weight so much when they are in human form. maybe metal in the bones can be stretched and changed easily? would it really be any different from calcium? the aliens made some pretty crazy technology, like stuff that creates a guyver with their metallic crystal structures from seemingly organic materials. I think it could be reasonable that the way zoanoids are made is rather exotic too.

why does it have to be those organic compounds? what if they made it so their bones were using more dense materials? like, I get that most cells will use normal proteins or maybe even weird ones we haven't heard of, but bones and stuff could be replaced with heavy metals?

Is there any clear indication that they weight differently? Exchanging matter for energy is a possibility if it were shown. for example, do we see the surrounding environment get cold when they transform into a zoanoid? I don't think we do. I just don't see any reason why the human form does not weight the same as the zoanoid form. isn't it just an assumption? it might not be completely rock solid, but the old anime showed sho jumping down out of a tree with ease. it was reasonably high and he did it with no problem. this suggests that in guyver, a superhuman character still has abilities when they look human. murakami blocked a zoanoid when he was in human form. a normal human arm would probably have been easily broken by that blow? the zoalords are shown to be a lot more hardy even in human form so they aren't just like normal humans. it would make a lot of sense for them to have different body density.

maybe he does. he held off guyver 3. he must weight a fair bit to be able to do that?

but if cabral weighs 35 tons in that form then he weighs 35 tons in his normal small form? I don't think that is true. why can't he have the density of 2 and a half styrofoams in brain mode? an african elephant weights over 3500 kg ( is that 35 tons?) or a hippo weights 1500 kg. I don't think that Yoshiki Takaya went into research mode and accidentally chose for cabral to weight less than an hippo if he didn't mean it.

I am not convinced the manga shows a gregole lifting a tank. the drawing is crude, and I have never seen a gregole with head tails that long. there is a gregole in the foreground and his coloration is dark. the one under the tank should be even darker if it were a gregole. it is very light colored. we saw a tabross lifting a tank in the first introduction to xday. the zoanoid in the recap of xday could easily be tabross, but a crude drawing of tabross. tabross is designed to take on tanks. I don't think we had a strangth rating for tabross. he must be very strong like more stronger than darezerb. gregole is 15 stronger times than a normal person so gregole cannot lift a tank. therefore I do not believe that is gregole. it just accidentally looked like gregole for a minute. that is a tabross and shortly after the photo was took, the tabross ate the photographer for making him look shameful.

her cup size is 2F while agito and sho only have a cup size 1 and 3 respectively.

With the current state of the manga, I don't think it's a good idea to do an adaptation of guyver. they are better of waiting until the story gets finished. to be honest the author is probably scared of finishing it because he has nothing else to draw after this. it must be very close to the end and that's why it's stopped. because he knows that if he carries on, it'll only last a year or two. If he had not stalled it probably would have ended by now.

I think dragonball is about determination. it is a positive message to people to keep pushing yourself and never give up, to seek out new challenges and take on the world head first.

I think it looks really good. the size doesnt bother me as i have seen the eggs be different sizes.