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I was on the Roosevelt when it came out. I will be going today. I heard it is a religious experience.

I highly doubt it is Elera's uncle. Though it could be one of her more powerful more full blooded great grandfathers though. Presumably the blood from which blood is from came from a Creator made zoalord which of course could be still alive today of course. Just throwing that out there.

Let's remember that proportionally Exceed was not merely a 20x increase in height but overall a 80,000x increase, but not in weight. So even if we assume that it was a proportionally increase in overall power, it would be mean the normal 10 megaton blast from a Gigantic Giga Smasher would be a 800 gigaton blast. Give or take of course. Dreadnought Exceed being much more powerful would be easily in the range of a Warrior Guyver Zolaord range of powers or better. It was been stated already that certain ability will not be used in the fanfic. On a side note: zeo, the new datafile states the Gigantic can now fire 10 megaton nuclear blasts vfrom the Giga Smasher. Did you revise your original estimate basing it off of a 10 kiloton range for a standard Guyver? What caused this?

Who are the Kindred? Hell, who are the Ancients as well? .. I am assuming you are not talking about the Ancients from Stargate SG-1... though they are very advanced themselves. Incidently, Anicents seeded Earth and others in Stargate SG-1 with their DNA.

As for the older Gigantic datafile version, there wouldn't be much to update other than various new abilities the Gigantic has shown. There is a datafile already for the Eliminator and because it seems incomplete is because the Eliminator has only been in the WG universe for about a day or two. Not much time to get a detailed analysis on him. Me personally, I would like to see Aptom and Gilgamesh. Aptom has been around since the beginning and we have no datafile on him. Another would be a more complete zoanoid datafile list as well.

One of the better episodes of Voyager I think, though a little farfetched. As for the Raptors, they are considered to be among the most intelligent species ever, and possibly the most intelligent species of their time. The evolutionary line that brought us, is definitely not straight nor is it a line, it's a jagged forked road with dead ends. In WG, it could be possible that before Guyver Zero, humans were the 'old' model and the human forms of Alkanphel and all Creator made humans with the pointed ears, catlike eyes are the new model.

I got a shiny $5 bill. Does that help?

Well, in GWotG in the story Diametric there was mention of a zoalord Elera who became a Guyver Zoalord and was powerful enough to wipe out all of the Guyvers. Elera is at most a quarter the power of a Supreme Zoalord and her attacks don't rate above a hyper zoanoid, but the biggest thing is that she is has a very limited stamina. A WG at least would remedy this weakness. Live the rest of their immortal lives in peace or fight those who seek power like Agito. Depends on which Nova unit you are talking about. But a stable Warrior Black Nova unit would be around 40x or 80x if you incorporate the Dark Nova upgrade. CPMs would be less useful, whereas the Gravity Shield of the WG Type 1 would be directly fed by the quantum singularity for fast and extremely powerful attacks. They would not ally themselves with Earth as that is a hotspot that would result in a very costly war for both sides with Erath in the middle regardless if Chronos or ACTF really wants to. It would be a universe ender. Agito would allow himself to become a zoalord along with all of the powers of a Matrix Warrior Guyver. How powerufl he would could depend on how you look at him, but he would be much more powerful than a Guyver Zoalord.

Out of the whole datafile, I am impressed with the self destruct ability. Very novel and haven't seen that ability yet in any fan made Guyver datafiles.

It's also possible some of them are burned out from the story writing. It's hard to keep on writing for 10 years.

I am assuming you are talking about the Warrior Guyvers since the HSLs are part of the fan fiction not the actual manga. The whole system is in the control medal. Where exactly, I have not a clue. But also, keep in mind the HSL si also part of the host's DNA which explains why even without the armor active, the hosts do not need to eat.

A little commentary. 1. Physical Strength: The Giant unit by itself is only 400 men but when bonded to WGC due to the efficiency of the WG unit get's a 50% boost, which is why Ultimus is 10x not 8x. But also it adds it's power, it's not a 2.5x increase. Which if true would make True Ultimus equal to Dreadnought. So, a Gigantic WGC without the Giant unit would be 12x but add the Giant unit boosts this to 18x. However there may be the question on whether or not because of the Warrior Gigantic unit itself would be linked as well that there could be additional power as well for example boosted to 20x. 2. Size: This is a big question. Simply put, how would (if it could as well), the Warrior Gigantic adds about 5 feet to the host unit, and the Giant unit is pretty much a Aceaer Mech suit. So how would it go on? Would the WGC use the Warrior Gigantic first then the Giant or vica versa? Would the Warrior Gigantic absorb the Giant unit into itself during the merging process to make it smaller ie: 12 feet or less? For simplicity sake, I just did as if the Giant unit was on top of the Gigantic WGC. Though technically in order for the Giant unit to be like it is (the host unit being in the abdomen, and the Giant unit like I said being a Mech), the True Ultimus would definitely be bigger than 21 to 22 feet. More like 30 feet tall. 3. Shields: WGC has the same durability level as any other WG, but his Comet attack allows him to withstand more. The Giant unit does little to enhance this. The Warrior Gigantic however does, which is why he can withstand the same amount as Valkryie. But use of the Comet Attack, allows him to withstand much more. However, even though the attack is rated at 25 kilotons, using as a shield is only 20 kilotons is because in reality it isn't a shield. So some bleed off would occur but even then it is more powerful than the Warrior Gigantic's shields. 4. Comet Attack: The Warrior Gigantic enhances the host unit's gravity powers 5x. The Comet Attack is combination of CPM and Gravity Shield components. Take into account three HSLs, much more powerful shields, Power Wave, and so on would easily make this a 25 kiloton level attack. 5. Power Punch: The Giant unit is centered around the Power Punch attack, it still only adds it's power. Whereas the Warrior Gigantic itself is 1 kiloton range, which makes the base level Power Punch 2 kiloton range. Power Wave of course enhances this to Dreadnought's standard. 6. Shoulder Cannons: The shoulder cannons are linked up with the power amps, so they would be a bit more powerful than Ultimus's. Though since they are linked to the Power Amps... 7. Control Medal: Giant's control medal is a ring, like a normal Guyver's. I am asuming in order for this to work, the control medal ring of the Giant unit would have to lay on top of the Warrior Gigantic's third control medal layer. This because the Giant control medal ring is about the same size and same area as where the Warrior Gigantic's third control medal layer would be. I honest;y think this would not work, but this is just a 'what if it could'. 8. I forgot the Giant unit has it's own Hyper sensors a total of 4 or 5(?) orbs. But presumably either a true Gigantic Ultimus may either have a total of five or ten of such orbs. For the hell of it, the hyper sensor orbs of the Giant unit and the Warrior Gigantic were merged together.

Because I was bored today and I was inspired by a recent topic about the Giant and Warrior Gigantic, I came up with this 'what if' datafile if Ultimus became a Gigantic with his Giant unit. Obviously he is massive. Subject: Warrior Gigantic enhanced Warrior Guyver Unit Code Name: ULTIMUS Host Unit: WARRIOR GUYVER C Host Name: Max Steiner Sex: Male Hair: Brown Eyes: Brown Age : 18 years Height of Host Unit: 204 cm (~6.7 Feet) Height as Valkyrie : 651 cm (~21.35 Feet) Weight of Host Unit : 350 kg (~772 Pounds) Weight as Valkyrie : 4,400 kg (~4.8 Tons) Status : Declared enemy of Chronos and member of the Canadian ACTF Description: The subject was originally a standard Guyver, Guyver C, but was nearly killed before his unit was upgraded by the 'MATRIX' to a Warrior class Guyver. Unit now possesses many of the same powers as the Warrior Guyver and Warrior Guyver 2 but the use of the Cyclone Matrix has been altered to produce an extremely powerful fiery blast field around subject that allows it to attack like a living comet and at supersonic speeds. The Warrior Guyver C has also demonstrated the ability to merge with the Warrior Gigantic Unit along with his Giant unit to transform into a massive powerhouse still known as ULTIMUS. Though lacking any Matrix enhancements, he is considered when he takes on this form to among the most powerful beings on this planet. Though how often he will is uncertain since the Warrior Gigantic is primarely used by DREADNOUGHT. ~Physical Strength: Subject has the approximate strength of 1,800 men, with unlimited stamina due to an super efficient triple HSL (Hyper Space Link) power system that gives subject unlimited energy reserves. The three systems work together to enhance host Bio Boost to far greater than normal levels and is only limited by host/unit tolerance levels.No additional increase in strength occurs with use of the Cyclone Power Matrixes since all of that power is directed to producing destructive blast field. ~Speed: Running is 3,000 MPH with a max. of ~3,750 MPH. Flying is 15,000 MPH with a max. of 18,750 MPH with back thrusters. Use of Power Blast Field increases flight speed to 22,750 MPH. Reflex speed is 200 to 1,000 times normal. ~Durability: The Warrior Gigantic Unit significantly increases armor durability and body shield strength to the point the subject can withstand anything up to a 2 kiloton blast with no additional shielding, and even if damaged subject can regenerate at a rate of 30 to 50, depending on how HSL energy is being channeled, times normal for a Guyver. While activating the blast field and a Gigantic's omni-directional shields allows the subject to withstand up to a 6 kiloton blast. The subject can also focus all his shield energy and gravitational power into a directed shield, via subject's Power Wave ability, that can withstand anything up to a 12 kiloton scale attack. Use of the Comet Attack as a defense can boost this to a 20 kiloton scale attack. ~Infrared Beam Orbs: These powerful Infrared Laser weapons can generate a beam with up to 200 times the power of a normal Guyvers head beam. Subject has three of these orbs, one in place of the normal Guyver head beam orb and two smaller orbs on either side of subjects Control Medal that have half the power of the main orb. Subject can also channel additional power from unit's power wave attack to boost the orbs power output for a combined fire power equivalent to a single Mega Smasher level beam attack. Though use of the Power Wave is more efficient when used directly but this method allows for pin point fire concentration for sniping opponents. ~Hyper Swords: Subject has two pairs of elbow and forearm vibrational swords, composed of polymorphic material that allow it to morph into a variety of shapes and sizes at the users will, which have superior strength and tolerance levels than that of any other known vibrational weapon. Additionally, these weapons benefit from subject's rapid adaptability and energy channeling ability. Swords can thus counter even the more powerful plasma swords of super beings such as the W'Kar and/or to help subject to penetrate a target's defenses. Also, like other Gigantics, subject can extend swords into tendril like whips for long range attacks of up to a hundred feet. Additionally, aside from the normal upper chest vibrational spike, the subject also has additional vibrational sword located in the lower chest area, as well as an additional pair located above the knee area. ~Hyper Sonic Busters: The unit's sonic weapon emitters have also shown greater versatility and power. Radius of attack can range from 5 to 160 degrees and intensity has ranged from a low hum to eighteen times that of a normal Guyvers. Allowing Subject to easily kill anything up to a hyper class zoanoid. The subject can also augment this weapon with energy from the power wave to produce plasma energy pulses for either additional destructive power or for use in the vacuum of space in which sonic weapons would normally not work. ~Gravitational Powers: Subject has three gravity control orbs with each 30 times more powerful than a normal Guyver's. This allows subject to fire pressure cannons up to 90 times the power of a normal Guyver's. The Unit's total power can also be combined to produce a single massive pressure cannon with up to 150 times the power of a normal Guyver's. Additionally, the unit can combine its gravitational energy with its bio-energy, allowing subject to double the power of it's attacks. ~Power Punch: Similar to the standard Gigantic Guyver. Subject can produce a single punch that is roughly equal to the destructive power of a 2 kiloton explosion of TNT. Rate of acceleration is equal to 150 G's. ~Power Wave Punch: Subject's Power Punch is enhanced by additional energy from the Power Wave to produce up to a single 5 kiloton blow. ~Power Wave: Subject can channel the total power of his gravitational, energy shields, bio-energy, and blast field power into a directed blast that can be either fired two handedly, at two different targets, delivering up to the destructive power of a normal Gigantic's Hyper Smashers to each target, or into a single beam equal to twice that destructive power. This attack can also be used to temporarily super boost the subject's Hyper Smashers to eight times the power of a Gigantic's Hyper Smashers. The only downside to this ability is that it draws its power from the subject's defensive systems and so makes subject more vulnerable to attacks when used. ~Hyper Smashers: Similar to standard Gigantic Hyper Smashers, but can produce a blast with up to six times the power of a normal Gigantic's Hyper Smashers and can be maintained for a full ten seconds. The radius of the beam is the same as a normal Gigantic Guyver's, giving it a much greater range and penetrating power than its power alone would normally provide. When combined with the energy focusing power of subject's power wave attack, the energy output of these weapons increase to 8 times the power of a Gigantic Guyver's Hyper Smashers. This can be combined with the shoulder cannons, with power equal to the main Hyper Smashers, to produce a combined blast that is sixteen times more powerful than a Gigantics full double hyper smash. ~Comet Attack: The Subject's Ultimate ability has been further enhanced by the Warrior Gigantic's enhancement, utilizing subject's blast shield to channel his total power to produce a fiery ball of destructive energy around him, which he can use simply by ramming his target like a living comet. Destructive energy released on impact can easily equal the power of a 12 to 25 kiloton explosion of TNT. ~Hyper Sensors: The Warrior Gigantic grants the subject with three additional sensory orbs which combined with the others increases the subject's range to around ~4 kilometers (~2.5 Miles). This combined with an advance multi-sensory HUD type system, the Control Medal's A.I. capacity, and overall enhancements of all of the subjects' natural senses, with Creator like telepathy added, allows subject to have an extremely high level of awareness of his environment. ~Control Medal: Subject's control medal is a larger, three layered, version of hisnormal Warrior Unit Control Medal combined with the Giant Unit's single layered, ring like, control medal allows subject to effectively control all his power in this enhanced form. Each layer is composed of 4 partial C-Units that have been combined to produce a more powerful parallel processing Unit. Granting the subject greatly enhanced power since the unit can more efficiently handle higher than normal power levels. Additionally the Warrior CM technology allows the subject to work in unison with other Warrior Guyvers to form an extremely efficient fighting force. ~Stealth Systems: Unit can turn invisible or appear to be just about anything, like a chameleon, with an advance cloaking system integrated with Unit's Body Shield system. Unit can also project immaterial holograms but the Warrior Gigantic can enhance this ability to produce solid holograms through the careful manipulation of the power wave, though the range of the solid holograms are limited to about a hundred meters from subject, and can make at least solid hologram about as powerful as a standard Guyver. The Unit's ability to enter Hyper space without deactivating and taking host along with it for either teleportation or to regenerate from a battle, even if Unit had appeared to have been vaporized, is also integrated into the Unit stealth system to prevent its detection until host is ready for combat once again. ~Psionics: Subject possesses limited Creator like telepathy that allows the subject to communicate with beings he would not otherwise understand. The power of the Warrior Gigantic also grants the subject limited telekinetic ability, though this is primarily due to the careful manipulation of the power wave ability and thus not entirely psionic in nature.

Nice, but I don't like the legs, they look too much like 80's leg warmers.

Well that might explain the manga version. But what about the WG.com versions? Guyver 0 is part creator so he can be excused. But we have the host for Primitive Guyver and Faye. They're from that timeframe and for the most part they're human just like us. Even our closer precusors like the Neanderthals were different enough to see a difference. Hell, it is theorized that they had bigger brains than us. The reason why they died out was because they could have been more eco-friendly than us. Then again, Faye and her people could have been gentically engineered to while similar to us, be more agressive and warrior-like.

Still doesn't bring up the fact that an advanced lifeform such as us hasn't changed much since Guyver 0's time whether it is 2.5 or 20 million years ago. Keep in mind that Alkanphel and the host of Guyver 0 are different, Guyver 0 looking more like a primitive human and Alkanphel looking like an elf.

In regards to the Aceaer Guyver unit thing. A Gigantic may or may not be around 3x. Though a good question is whether or not the Gigantic could merge with a Aceaer Guyver unit. But that would be the same argument as a prototype Warrior Guyver unit like Battle Guyver. Dreadnought is much more powerful than Ultimus. Hell, even Zeuus or Valkryie is more powerful than Ultimus. Using a Warrior Gigantic, the True Ultimus would be much more powerful than the Giant unit enhanced version. Also, Dreadnought has only met WGC in his Ultimus form only once officially, though it could be argued that they have been between the stories of course. So, chances are that it didn't give him enough time or it didn't occur to Jason. On the other hand, it could be possible that the self destruct device is only for control medals and since the Giant unit only has a control medal ring didn't warrant such a device.

Good to hear. Though that short story was a preview of the full story of Part1 of the story. I had it practically finished a few months ago, but I got hit with some virus off of the internet. I had to wipe my computer and thankfully my external hard drive wasn't hit but I didn't update it in a long time. So, now I am reconstructed the missing parts right now and updating it the story flow much better.

What he said. Remember that Jason could always make himself have the power of a Guyver Zoalord or stronger at any time. The reason why he doesn't is because he likes being human. Stephen Cain more or less is the same way, he'll just 'cheat' a little.

The Navy has Panasonic Tough books. They're not so tough, especially the touch screens. Though they do withstand a good 100 foot fall pretty easily. I don't let anyone touch my laptop anymore. The last person who touched my laptop was my roommates wife and she seriously screwed it up.

Well, the point I was making is that computers have been increasing in power very rapidly. It was once said that computers doubled in power every 18 months. In reality they were doubling in power every 9 months. The biggest problem is actually the processors. They haven't been jumping in power as much. If that was the case, my current laptop would be 10 GHz fast. It takes a good hour to read just 120 GB for my computer BTW.

The HP I have isn't that bad. I got it becasue a buddy of mine has had his for since 2002. he's upgraded it several times and it still functions. Though eventually like everything else in the world it died. I went through three laptops since I joined the Navy. One literally melted the hard drive, the other is somewhere in the Persian Gulf's water right now and the other took a bullet to the screen. This one so far has been good to me so far. The primary hard drive has everything it needs to run the computer. The secondary is just for added space, which is why I am actually considering to do this. I have considered once I get the new hard drive up and running without any problems, I'll use the removed secondary hard drive as a back up for the original primary hard drive.

First off, Juggernaught is not Jason O'Conner. It's Stephen Cain. The original datafile at the begining of this topic is very old and I never spotted the typo. Remember that the Matrix will bring practically any unit to Dreadnought levels without doing anything to the host itself. So a Type 2 more or less would be very, very similar to the Type 1. In effect, it would have to be host's will to change anything else. For example, WG3 would be a fic ender because his thirst for power would grant him a very, very powerful host body. Jason abhores this so remains what he is now. Stephen Cain is more like Jason then Agito. He is a Marine and more than anything else would like to keep his human form. However, because Marines would like an advantage over the opponent would allow a slight improvement. Also, the host of Juggernaught is a slightly different Stephen Cain than the WG2 or AM versions. He's more cold, and calculating and aggressive. He's more geared towards hand to hand fighting and firepower. Essentially, even a master hand to hand fighter like W'Kar would have a hard time. To top it all off, he's more brutal in how he kills.

Well, commerically compyters are not 1,000x more powerful. In 1998 I had a Dell computer with 96 MB, 466 MHz and 13 GB of memory. My current computer which is a laptop is 2 GB, 1.5 GHz Duo Core and 240 GB of memory. They say the fastest super computer which i guess is now the Roadrunner is .01% (depending on who you talk to) as powerful as the human brain. But considering the rapid advances of computer technology, it's fast approaching that we will have a supercomputer with the power to match a human brain. I wouldn't be worried since we would have to program the software.

I own a HP dv9535 laptop. It has two 2.5" 120 gigabyte hard drives (combined 240 gb). The Primary has everything you need to run the computer and the Secondary is just there for space. I have been thinking of replacing the Secondary with a larger 320 gigabyte hard drive (combined 440 gb). I have already removed my secondary to see if I can remove it without affecting the computer. I started it and nothing went wrong. Now the big question are there differences between one manufacturer to another? Like would my HP be capable of taking a Samsung? Now, my idea to have the computer recognize it is to do a system recovery and save everything I want to keep on my external hard drive. Is there a better way? I know many people I talked to said that it would be better to have an external hard drive. While I agree that there are no laptop hard drives that match my 750 gb external. You have to plug it into a wall socket as well as a computer. I am going on cruise and space is at a premium. Replacing my internal laptop secondary hard drive if successful will give my laptop much larger space.