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But that will change the events of Kimura. Not only the secret is being spilled out, the human get to witness the "true Natives". Here's a theory I helped Spectre develop The reason why the Natives and Worms on Earth tried to destroy humans is becos when they arrived on Earth years ago as larvae or eggs. They mimicked human right down to their biology and perhaps even their ways of life. This was to protect themselves. But in the process, they got corrupted by the ways of Man. So the events of Kabuto happened. Now a hundred years after Tendou gave his final Rider Kick. In the time of Cosmos and the attack of the Necrophites on Kimura, the human can see for themselves that while the Worms still maintain their streak of violence due to the natural instinct of the species, when they arrived on the Native Planet, they discovered that the Natives are a lot different from the Natives that humans were exposed to. The true Natives are in fact sorta like Autobots, they are peace-loving and nature loving people [unless you made one pretty angry of course]. And the only thing savage on their Planet in fact are the arthropod predators that exist there sorta like a facing earth predators with a Clock up device

But remember the Cosmo suit is alien tech so it's more complex than the Xilians.

Spectre for Cosmo's design I will see what I can do. But since Cosmo's time is about a hundred years from Kabuto's timeline, anything is possible. But I think the home planet of the Natives shouldn't be much difficult except for the Clocked up arthropod predators.

And Wakana is shattered to pieces.. Ouch! I also heard that she later abandons her Dopant Memory. I had long predicted that Wakana might give up being a Dopant and betray her family. But more awaits to be seen.

Glad to know that.. I will be busy as well for my own personal work which could affect my career path.

So why do they have to be invaded?

Also Durendal is actually partial correct when he said Hollywood and stuff at the beginning of the topic. They call it cultural imperialism. "Artists around the world are on guard against “cultural imperialism,” the aggressive export of Hollywood storytelling techniques and the squeezing out of local accents. American values and the cultural assumptions of Western society threaten to smother the unique flavors of other cultures. Many observers have remarked that American culture is becoming world culture, and what a loss it would be if the only flavorings available were sugar, salt, mustard, and ketchup. This problem is much on the minds of European storytellers as many countries with distinct cultures are drawn into a union. They are striving to create stories that are somewhat universal, that can travel beyond their national borders, for local audiences may not be numerous enough to support the always-growing cost of production. They are competing with intensely competitive American product that aggressively courts the world market. Many are studying and applying American techniques, but they also worry that their unique regional traditions will be lost." The Writer's journey.

Hmm so can I say that what we need a "boss" who thinks like a writer but at the same time must be able to surprise the fans!

Yes movies, games, anime....etc the media seem to have lost some form of creativity.. Spectre as a long time watcher of anime is noticing the sharp drop of it and he spoke about it in his recent conversations.

Not just video games but other media like cartoons that have no story.etc might had the same kinda effect. Including Tv shows...

"It is from innocent children that I learned what happens when a young soul is held away from the breadth and meaningful nuances of stories for too long. Little ones come to earth with a panoramic ability to hold in mind and heart literally thousands of ideas and images. The family and culture around them is supposed to place in those open channels the most beautiful, useful, deep and truthful, creative and spiritual ideas we know. But very many young ones nowadays are exposed almost exclusively to endless "crash and bash" cartoons and "smack 'em down" computer games devoid of any other thematic components. These fragmentary subjects offer the child no extensive depth of storyline. When I have taught children as an artist-in-residence in the schools, I have found that many children were already starved for deep story before they had reached second grade. They tended to know only those from sit-com television, and they often reduced their writings to these drastically narrowed themes: "A man killed another man." "He killed him again and again. Period." "They lived, they died. The end." Nothing more." Could this be another factor? Food for thought for everyone... This discussion is getting exciting.

Agreed. Originality has become the extinct animal.

Something to ponder could it be possible that our new modern culture might be the cause of this kind of creativity drain? here's an extract from the Hero of a 1000 faces, "Sometimes an entire culture colludes in the gradual destruction of its own panoramic spirit and breadth of its teaching stories. Purposefully, or without awareness, this is done by focusing almost exclusively only on one or two story themes, inhibiting or forbidding all others, or only excessively touting a favorite one or two. Whether these narrowly defined or overly vaunted stories are predictable and repetitive ones about the same aspects of sex or violence, over and over again, and little else, or they are about how sinful or stupid people are, and how they ought be punished—the effect is the same. The story tradition becomes so narrowed that, like an artery that is clogged, the heart begins to starve.<br><br>Then the psyches of individuals may resort to scraps and tatters of stories offered them via various channels. And they will take them, often without question, the same way people who are starving will eat food that is spoiled or that has no nutritional value, if none other is available. They might hope to find such poor food somehow replenishing, even though it can never be so—and might sicken them to boot. In a barren culture, one or two fragmentary story-themes play, like a broken record, broadcasting the same notes over and over again. At first it may be slightly interesting. Then it becomes irritating. Next it becomes boring and hardly registers at all. Finally it becomes deadening. The spirit and mind and body are made narrower, rather than radiant and greater, by its presence, as they are meant to be." Phew's that's a lot to type.

this is one variation. the point is, pretty much all stories all draw from the same basic elements. you say that eragon was a rip off of star wars... personally, I never made that link at all. I did however see strong similarities between the first harry potter and star wars. so it can also depend on your point of view. Could there be an 8th or 9th?

What are the 7 stories?

Another thing is nowadays movies are just remaking old classics or adapting old comics. Nothing new is coming out these days like what Spectre has said. Anime is also facing the same problem. Relying on old comic books or novels have a problem to them; adaptation decay. And I do not have to tell others that the movie versions tend to have left out sometimes important aspect of the story. This on the other hand can affect the popularity of the book especially among what Sabrina said, people who do not read the book. People who have read the original will have their eyes sharpened to a spear point and can immediately tell you if the filmmakers have not adapted their beloved work properly.

Also Hollywood keeps making live action versions of games, books or even 2d animation. And most of these tend to be box office flops. Check out this fella... and yes, it's M. Night's work. As for animation, the creativity is still more or less there but it's seems to be fading...

See what I mean? Everyday now seems to be based on an old work or something. There's nothing new coming up. It's like Star Wars universe and it keep expanding forever and forever. I was wondering if Lucas has anything new at all? James Cameron seems different though he keeps surprising us with every movie he made in the past. For Avatar, I really can't comment yet until I see his "little baby"<br>

Actually it's not about copying but creativity in the story part also.... For Example the upcoming Avatar movie, while in the US people are getting up excited. Some of my writer friends said, "Wait a min, this sounds like a science fiction take on Pocahontas?" I wasn't prepared to commend on the similarities until I actually watch it in order to be fair to James Cameron and the hard work he put into it. So it's like now CG effects are the hype and the story not very important. Compare today's movies with yesterday's movies, the movies of yesterday even though they are history now. They have a good story that just overflows and in some case touches your very soul in some. Today's movies except for a few are just fads that will be forgetten quickly. but Ask anyone who watched some big yesterday's blockbusters, and some can remember them.

OK sure... I am Sorry, ryuki. This topic is not created to attack media but rather as a conscience, something to ponder about.

It's true that Sentai and Kamen Rider or even Guyver might be influence from western superheroes but this is becos the western superheroes evolved much earlier than Asia. However the superhero concept was far from a western or eastern idea. But however making bad adaptations is not a good idea. Shotaro Ishinomori was rather pissed from sources I heard when they adapted Kamen Rider Black RX into Masked Rider. And if you are saying that Power RAngers is not a copied concept, then as a 10 year PR fan, can you explain the fact that they are using footage from the show? How creative can they get? As for Eragon, it really sounds like a bad rip off even at the book level, the writer admitted that he was a fan of LOTR. To be frank as a noob writer myself, I asked some of my friends some of which have published a book or two, they agreed that Eragon's writer really needs to break away from his influence of his fandom and they said that the writer was probably a Star Wars fan. When I asked them about originality, in the writing world there is one thing to do is that you have to make sure you hide your sources of inspiration. And the writer of Eragon seemed to have failed in this aspect as anyone who read his book or the movie adapted from it, could tell the influence right away. Even non-readers could see the influence right away. I asked 4-5 friends including two kids who never seen or heard about Eragon the book and the movie and all of them could see the references to Star Wars when they eventually saw the movie. Only one has read the first book amongst them and he could definitely tell the influence from Star Wars. And I really do not know how to call this topic? Besides it was one of my members who pointed this issue out and I think this is food for thought. It's not basically an attack on the West.. Even Anime is losing its creativity as well from what I heard... The Seen that, Done That phenomenon as so to speak.

Check out these articles Why Hollywood Remakes Don't Measure up to the Asian Originals Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 As for the east copying the west, it's much fewer than hollywood. The only one I saw a movie called Kungfu Cyborg in China. It's like a chinese version of M. Bay's Transformers.

The Power RAngers, the Masked Riders are all just copied concepts... from their Japanese counterparts So is Eragon which is like a medieval version of Star Wars.....etc. Dragonball Evilution[Evolution] is a s*** copy of the original. The upcoming Last Airbender Movie directed by Midnight S. is going to be another box office bomb.

This topic was made by a member from my own forum http://beyondword.forumotion.net/intelligent-debates-f15/has-the-west-lost-their-creativity-t321.htm#1778 He thinks that the media has lost its creative juices in movies.etc Discuss this

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