how strong is the guyver??

[Bluesenzan]

i mean in strength,speed and how much damage the the armor can take

also the head beam and pressure cannon.

i really want to know first is how much damage the armor can take cause i have no idea all i see him fight..well i can remember them fighting are those Enzyme types with the special guyver eating acid

[LordSpleach]

Well exact figures have never been mention but I know the armor can't resist any high frequency blades, and has been shown to easily resist a shot from another Guyver's Head Beam.

[*PrimalNemesis]

It has been shown that a Guyver can smash through solid concrete and easily man handle a Gregole type Zoanoid. The Guyver's megasmasher dwarfs the power of most bio-laser oriented zoanoids. The Guyver's armor is extremely durable. Conventional weapons have no effect against it. The only thing that could possibly come close to killing a Guyver is a hyper zoanoid, specially processed anti-Guyver zoanoids (Enzyme or Aptom for example), a Zoalord, and another Guyver. It has not been determined whether or not the Uranus themselves could kill a human based Guyver without assistance. I am more than certain that Apollon could easily kill a Guyver since he has been shown to have taken down zoalords with no problem. Now if you were to ask what could kill a Guyver Gigantic I would tell you that I have not the slightest clue other than another Guyver Gigantic or Exceed. There have been numerous discussions in the past about how powerful a Guyver is and how much damage it could take. If I were you I would go and take a look at some of the older posts within the forum and see if you can find any of these discussions. I promise some of them will be very informative. You could also ask some of the resident Guyver experts here on the site. Ryuki would be a good example of someone who would be very knowledgeable considering he is the one running the show around here. You could also try checking out the Guyver wiki here on the site. It contains some very useful information. And by all means feel free to add to it if you can as long as the information is solid.

I really hope that you find all the answers to your inquiries! :flirt:/>

Edited December 14, 2012 by Krucifer

[*YoungGuyver]

The armor can completely regenerate from just a few cells, so it can basically take a lot of damage. A lot. A really really lot.

For speed? He appears to be a blur on the ground, but only floats/hovers when in air. Unless it's gone Gigantic, then it has jets to amp up the speed. Did anyone notice any sonic booms during those speed bursts? The Gigantic pod also uses hyperspace(boost dimension) to travel from one point on Earth to another, which makes sense considering it is made from a space ship.

And for power output? What was the megasmashers power output again? Ryuki quoted a number just a short while ago. Completely burning people past the point of ash is pretty powerful enough. Until you go Gigantic and can do it even better by having a gravity controller in the center, siphoning energy directly into the system. Extreme, but fun. And then you can Exceed this

[Cannibal]

Sorry, I can't find the source now, but I'm 100% sure:

Megasmasher power: 100 megawatt

Gigasmasher is x100: 10 gigawatt

Gigantics jets give him an ability to break the sound barrier.

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Damage by Megasmasher: of Guyver 3 and Guyver 1 the second one was VERY damaged when Alky reflected 1.5 Megasmashers back to them. But Guyver 3 was ok (maybe he dodged).

[hehey]

Ehh, the Control Metals seem pretty vulnerable to me, and thats pretty much their weakness, those Flying Zoanoids from the time Sho and Aptom were fighting Kabral pretty much paralyzed Guyver 1 by targeting its control metal with what? some sonic frequency? It seems to me that the Guyvers are just lucky they never get hit there with anything. I mean really, how did the control metal for that Guyver II unit that ended up eating its host get damaged initially anyway?, im sure it wasn't by some extreme super move or anything.

Edited December 14, 2012 by hehey

[Bluesenzan]

thank's for the info guys...every time i think about the guyver this though always comes...but i'm surprised with the guyver gigantics and megasmasher info?? i know those two powers pretty well. i just wanted normal guyver info and looking back in the earlier chapters they say something about the head beam being more useful/ more powerful then a bio laser type zoanoids ....hmm i guess with the new enemys and anti-guyver stuff it really just throw's me off....now the pressure cannon what do u guys think about it??

[Guyver0]

I think in terms of durability the Guyver armor is roughly stronger than steel, how much I am not certain.

Ehh, the Control Metals seem pretty vulnerable to me, and thats pretty much their weakness, those Flying Zoanoids from the time Sho and Aptom were fighting Kabral pretty much paralyzed Guyver 1 by targeting its control metal with what? some sonic frequency? It seems to me that the Guyvers are just lucky they never get hit there with anything. I mean really, how did the control metal for that Guyver II unit that ended up eating its host get damaged initially anyway?, im sure it wasn't by some extreme super move or anything.

Sho only pretended to be vulnerable to the attack so he can launch a surprise attack on all surrounding Zoanoids so he and Biofreezer can focus on evil Aptom. Guyver 2's control medal was damaged after the test Zoanoid Malmot was captured and detonated the explosive that sent the units in different directions. Guyver 2's was damaged after the explosion slammed the unit against a boulder and cracked the control medal.

The Head Beam's impact is 5x stronger than a bullet from a 9mm. I read this information from the Datafile handbooks from the "Guyver: The Bioboosted Armor" anime series.

As for the Pressure Cannon I am not sure how strong it is. How it's formed and what it composes of we can tell you, but not really sure how strong it is. Just know it is strong enough to bust a decent sized hole on almost anything. The only Zoanoid that withstood this attack was Zx-Tole

Edited December 14, 2012 by Guyver0

[*Jess♥]

we don't really have a definitive, factual definition of exactly how the pressure cannon works.

we have had various discussions about it and it sort of went a little like this.

the guyver uses compressor in the wrist and focuses with his fingers. this is described in the VDF.

we think that what is happening is that the guyver is forming an area of incredible density. then when he releases it, it creates a pressure wave. sort of like a sound wave but instead of being many pressure waves oscillating at frequency, it would be one big pressure wave. focused.

basically anything it hits, experiences this localised shockwave. this appears to be what is happening and is the way it is represented in manga and anime. whatever gets hit by it, appears that it is getting 'punched' by the air.

[Guyver0]

we don't really have a definitive, factual definition of exactly how the pressure cannon works.

we have had various discussions about it and it sort of went a little like this.

the guyver uses compressor in the wrist and focuses with his fingers. this is described in the VDF.

we think that what is happening is that the guyver is forming an area of incredible density. then when he releases it, it creates a pressure wave. sort of like a sound wave but instead of being many pressure waves oscillating at frequency, it would be one big pressure wave. focused.

basically anything it hits, experiences this localised shockwave. this appears to be what is happening and is the way it is represented in manga and anime. whatever gets hit by it, appears that it is getting 'punched' by the air.

Doesn't the Guyver utilized Gravitational forces and Kinetic Energy to develop it and control it's shape? Or am I wrong on that?

[Bluesenzan]

isn't the pressure cannon made with gravitional forces like what Guyver0 said??...i mean he can't use the pressure cannon if his using the gravity control to fly??

i don't really go much with the newer anime series of guyver info cause the headbeam in the manga was stronger like when sho used it against guyver two and melted a piece of the school's roof

[hehey]

I think in terms of durability the Guyver armor is roughly stronger than steel, how much I am not certain.

Ehh, the Control Metals seem pretty vulnerable to me, and thats pretty much their weakness, those Flying Zoanoids from the time Sho and Aptom were fighting Kabral pretty much paralyzed Guyver 1 by targeting its control metal with what? some sonic frequency? It seems to me that the Guyvers are just lucky they never get hit there with anything. I mean really, how did the control metal for that Guyver II unit that ended up eating its host get damaged initially anyway?, im sure it wasn't by some extreme super move or anything.

Sho only pretended to be vulnerable to the attack so he can launch a surprise attack on all surrounding Zoanoids so he and Biofreezer can focus on evil Aptom. Guyver 2's control medal was damaged after the test Zoanoid Malmot was captured and detonated the explosive that sent the units in different directions. Guyver 2's was damaged after the explosion slammed the unit against a boulder and cracked the control medal.it composes of we can tell you, but not really sure how strong it is. Just know it is strong enough to bust a decent sized hole on almost anything. The only Zoanoid that withstood this attack was Zx-Tole

No, he was vulnerable to it, what he said was that he pretended to get knocked out before he could get knocked out for real, aka he thought that if those sonic things lasted any longer it would've caused him to lose consciousness, so he pretended to be unconscious on purpose so he could take out those flying guys by surprise and not have to deal with that anymore. Edited December 15, 2012 by hehey

[*Jess♥]

yep, that is true.

so the pressure cannon, what i neglected to mention is that it used the gravitational power to create the area of high pressure / high density.

it does most certainly use the gravity controller, that much is clear.

also, we can take notice of his newer ability with the XD, where he creates a micro singularity. he pretty much does it the same way although it is of course far higher powered.

about the headbeam, it uses excess heat from the guyver's system to fire that so I thik it is variable in power output.

[Bluesenzan]

Thank U Ryuki with the pressure cannon now i understand it better...but with the head beam was that info based on the 2005 anime??

[Aether]

i'm pretty sure that info is from the VDF (Visual Data Files)

[*YoungGuyver]

Ryuki, there are other theories about the pressure canon.

The Balcus data video to the Arizona scientists/Shin had them suggesting that a wormhole or something was involved. A singularity of some kind was already involved on the regular guyver level, and not just the Gigantic. Our prior conversations left many options open

Such as perhaps the pressure canon is a temporarily unstable wormhole that links to the pressure of the Boost dimension.

Or that the pressure canon is much like the quasi black hole, in which the gravity compressor (wrist pad) creates a gravitational wave pattern to attract all that mass, and then directs it to the target-pretty much what you said, but more technical

[*Jess♥]

Ryuki, there are other theories about the pressure canon.

The Balcus data video to the Arizona scientists/Shin had them suggesting that a wormhole or something was involved. A singularity of some kind was already involved on the regular guyver level, and not just the Gigantic. Our prior conversations left many options open

Such as perhaps the pressure canon is a temporarily unstable wormhole that links to the pressure of the Boost dimension.

Or that the pressure canon is much like the quasi black hole, in which the gravity compressor (wrist pad) creates a gravitational wave pattern to attract all that mass, and then directs it to the target-pretty much what you said, but more technical

I don';t remember the full details of our discussions or even who was involved so I don't really remember the other ideas, I hardly even remember my own ideas

but what you say here is really interesting because when the guyver is called from the boost dimension, it does cause a shockwave around the summoner. this is consistent with the effects of the pressure cannon so you could be right about that.

though, I have to think it is a directed pressure wave because if guyver was throwing a wormhole along a trajectory, I feel like the wormhole going into a body would cause an explosive force and result in them being blown to pieces. doesn't it appear like the effect is a directional force?

perhaps it is a wormhole causing a pressure wave? or perhaps it is a singularity? or just highly condensed matter? is there even a difference, apart from intensity? what do you think?

[LordSpleach]

Well I've seen more explanations using the wormhole theory, but if it's different I have to go with a small scale localized gravity effect. Similar to Guyot's attack but condensed to the scale of a volleyball.

[*V Guyver]

I think the pressure cannon works in the same principal as this Snapping Shrimp, but it's done differently, but I can guess that the energy created is done in a far greater scale.

[Aether]

good observation vGuyver! i do like that theory as the bubbles could be gravity bubbles imploding and firing the shockwaves forward... all though imploding gravity bubbles (blackholes?) in your hands does sound a bit dangerous!!

edit:

i said blackholes in your hands but i think of the energy of the pressure cannon as ''whitehole energy'' because of all this stuff ive said before which i'll put here if anyone cares!!...

according to the VDF, p9 i think,when the Armour appears in this dimension it crosses through a wormhole creating the explosive sphere, so it sounds like the gravity controller acts like some kind of mini wormhole that constantly syphons energy from the BD into the guyver.

metaphorically speaking maybe its like the Guyver's 'heart' pumping boost dimension energy 'blood' throughout the Guyver.

the way i think about the siphon from void space being a wormhole is that its a perfect example of a black hole / white hole situation... the Control Metal is being the black hole in the boost dimension collecting and condensing energy and effectively being a white hole ejecting out the energy into the guyver system in our dimension.

Edited December 17, 2012 by Aether

[Guyver0]

In terms of the Pressure Cannon the description of it that I have from the Handbook from the 26 episode series is this:

"Pressure Cannon: Energy supplied by the gravitational control device passes through the protrubances on the wrists and converges between the five fingers of each hand. This opens a microscopic wormhole, which when closed, launches a shockwave towards the enemy."

So maybe with the pressure cannon the energy is supplied from the boost dimension and when it opens and is shut both forcibly and quickly the shockwave is launched forward and because of the surrounding gravitational force that was attracted gives it shape and density?

In terms of the shield that protects the host and unit during the bioboosting process that bubble is of the same nature, but that one isn't closed forcibly, but instead it seems to just naturally close itself or shimmers out?

This is all speculation on my part. Anyone else have any thoughts or opinions?

Edited December 17, 2012 by Guyver0

[*Jess♥]

V guyver, excellent clip!

I think that looks just like the pressure cannon!

and Guyver0, nice one posting that. I never had access to that book so I had no idea.

seems like we do have a definitive description of the pressure cannon.

[Guyver0]

Thank you Ryuki,

The hand book doesn't have all the answers we seek, but it does have some interesting facts about different characters, Guyvers, Zoaforms, interviews, further explanations of the Guyver, and concept art.

[Bluesenzan]

wow!! reading all of this i can understand the pressure cannon thank's everyone.....the head beam i'm still like 50-50 the armor i have a question about...when the ]libertus blow up on guyver 2f did she dodge it or did her armor take the impact.....cause really all the attack that been said to hurt the guyver was mostly dodged so idk??

Edited December 18, 2012 by Bluesenzan