Can the story continue without Allen?

[Sully]

I've created this acct because... well... frankly I can't find my password for my old one. It's me... Allen.

UPDATES: After finally finishing my degree I am now working as an elementary school teacher. Yes... that's correct. The US Government is actually alright with allowing ME around children. It's hard to believe.

I'm married. She's great.

No kids. Deal with enough of them already, and the economy isn't so bad that I gotta start making my own food supply........ yet anyway.

I was thinking of getting back into writing a bit more now. However it has been SOOOOOO long since I've had the chance to sit down and actually put pen to..... *cough* finger to key that I'm unsure of what, if anything, I should do. I've considering going back to finish these stories... but frankly it feels distant.

I'm considering either actually doing a new original story in much the same fashion as this site. Complete with something akin to datafiles, and all sorts. I'm wondering if anyone would be interested from here following me on a non-guyver story. I'm unsure yet what I may be working on, but I have a number of neat ideas to explore, as well as different maybe even a different genre such as Fantasy, or just Horror.

This was the last contact from Allen we've had. He's not responded since and as you can see he's basically hinting he's no longer interested in continuing his Guyver story. I was hoping this wasn't the case but that post was over a year ago now and we've not heard form him since.

Lately I took it upon myself to rebuild the GWOTG website and give it a face lift and fix it up so that it had Data Files etc.

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Sadly, while we did just do a massive Data File update on warriorguyver.com for the Warrior Guyver Fanfiction... And the Great War site was not only redesigned, and had some long deleted sections restored...

The Data Files and Fan Fictions for the Great War can only be updated by one man: Allen Lucas. And so far, he has not come out of the ether to start nerding out again. Last I heard, he's actually "Grown up, has a career and married".

The Great War page update was more about Brian not liking having a site linked on the main page that looked so out of date. Plus, as mentioned, we found some stuff that was long thought lost ( like the fan art section of Great War and some data files). The problem is, that many years ago, we started restructuring our stories and how our characters were powered ( based on the truths we learned about thew Gigantic, how it is more like 10x a standard Unit-G, rather than 2x like we started with in 1998). So, this grounded a lot of our characters a lot more, making only the very few extremely powerful, rather than everyone.

Thing is, Great War REALLY needs to do that too. But not only is it a lot of work, but it's also not our characters. Any data files we'd do, would be based on our predictions, and may not be exactly how the creator himself would have wanted.

Now, if Allen did decide to come back, we'd certainly help him with all that, but not without him.

Matt posted this on Deviant Art yesterday.

So the question is to the fans of GWOTG is with it's creator's lack of interest would you want the GWOTG to continue and be taken over, possibly rewritten to explain power levels and give back story and forgotten units and Characters or should it remain what it is now a little status bubble?

Note like the Warrior Guyver fan-fiction we can take the 2001 site of Great War, fix it up to be a time bubble and then use the new templated site as a means of going forward?

NOTE2: Some of us already know how Allen planned to end the story as Allen in the past emailed out the ending to some fans. So the goal would be considering he himself changed some things the last time he came back to being the story to the end he envisioned closely as possible while also before hand building up the past stories so that characters had more feeling to them.

[Destroyer Guyver]

I'm conflicted with this, on one hand I'd like to see Great Wars conclusion and the older stories maybe updated to reflect what we know now.

But on the other if Alan's not interested anymore is it worth it? that's a fair amount of work to take up and trying to finish someone else's work, even if you know what they were planning can be a pain in the arse.

Hmm

If enough of us want it go for it but if its only a few I'd say keep it in "stasis".

[McAvoy]

It is alot of work. Do you want to just write the stories to end it or do you want to improve the stories and datafiles and maybe even the pictures. It's more or less like doing a whole new site.

When I was doing the datafiles long ago for zeo back during Allens many disappearances, we talked about doing a major edit to the stories. Removing slang, combining stories into chapters that sort of thing.

[Sully]

I'm conflicted with this, on one hand I'd like to see Great Wars conclusion and the older stories maybe updated to reflect what we know now.

But on the other if Alan's not interested anymore is it worth it? that's a fair amount of work to take up and trying to finish someone else's work, even if you know what they were planning can be a pain in the arse.

Hmm

If enough of us want it go for it but if its only a few I'd say keep it in "stasis".

It wouldn't bother me if 1 person wants it or a load of people. What's important is that I'm using elements of the GWOTG in my fiction going forward. I'm already writing a story where Ira is seeing flash backs of her past life in the Assassin fan-fiction. In having to alone account for this characters story I have to defectively explain how the world was in her eyes. She is not the only character either coming over.

If fans then go from reading that fiction to Great War and then are left confused it's not a great experience (in his early stories Allen tended to forget about some tech or characters or not give some back stories).

It is alot of work. Do you want to just write the stories to end it or do you want to improve the stories and datafiles and maybe even the pictures. It's more or less like doing a whole new site.

When I was doing the datafiles long ago for zeo back during Allens many disappearances, we talked about doing a major edit to the stories. Removing slang, combining stories into chapters that sort of thing.

If I do start work on this it will be with the aim of improving stories, making sure they make sense to a Guyver fan in terms of where stuff is and less random "Oh this unit just appeared for us to use" and yes it would evolve over time to give the site a lot of new art and if you're up for it data files too.

Looking at the site though this is only needed really for Allen's first and part of his second sagas. I'd mainly only be thinking art for the 3rd Saga and finishing it off.

[jedi-guyver]

Even if the story doesn't get finished, it just makes sense to clean up the stories and data files. Streamlining the first two sagas to be consistent with the third would immensely improve the story. So I'm all for it!

[Zeus Thunderbolt]

Since it is a big ask to assume his current blessing on this, Allen did post this a few years ago http://warriorguyver.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=4507,

I had a couple PM's regarding using characters in GWOTG in fan fics for your own stories. So... I figure now is a good time to post something about it.

I don't care.

Frankly I enjoy reading other peoples interpetations of my characters. Gives me insight into how their being viewed. As a writer I KNOW what they are like and what the characters are thinking. As a writer I have to show you what they are like and what they are thinking.

So have at it people.

I have only one requirement. I get to see it. Goes with art and writing. And a mention of me as an originator would be nice too.

So long as he is credited, and he can step back into things if he feels the need to, I am OK with the continuation of the Great War. It would be nice to have him as a consultant with whomever volunteers for this task. Now that he is a teacher, he could even grade you...

[Ultimate W'kar]

It would be really nice if GWOTG could continue, though the idea of anyone trying to finish the story does make me wonder if Allen ever had a... um excuse the D&D terminology... Settings bible or something like it? It would make it a bit easier for any writer who took over to keep the character in their proper personality set.

[Alkanphel]

My recommendation is to have one story to rule them all . Ok ok ok...I will explain, I believe Allen had a pretty good build up to how he wanted everything before life got in the way. Have a story that interprets all the characters emotions, feelings, wants/needs in the ongoing transgressions with Anubis/Creators/Earth forces and go from there. Once you have that story, you can then write your continuation for GWOTG.

I use to work with Allen in the shadows from time to time, datafiles and views on story lines. Even though it has been years, I could potentially voice opinions or story lines for the site to continue.