Various Projects?

[Azaar]

Curiosity prompted me to start this: what all Gen Projects have there been in the WG Universe, and what is widely known about them? Off the top of my head, I'm coming up with these:

Assassin -- Isis/Guyver 4 is the only example to work with here

Eliminator -- being hinted at during Time War, but not many details to be found since the project was pretty much destroyed

Genesis -- a thread hinted that the Genesis Project was meant to make Unit-Gs more mass-production, creating dormant units more quickly, but I can't find any other information because the search function won't let me; whatever further details that have been revealed would be appreciated

Kavzar -- Krullnar's pet project; fair amount known here

Mark II -- more an upgrade than a true Project, I know, but it does modify Unit-Gs in a wide variety of ways, depending on the Unit's Project classification and the host itself

Neo-Kavzar -- not much details found offhand, aside from an assumption of Angel's unit being Neo-Kavzar in origin

Nova -- The main opposition to Solom's Warrior Project

Warrior -- Solom's pet project; basically the anti-Nova Unit; lots known here

Zoaforms -- Pre-Unit-G/Kavzar, discarded by the Gen in favor of furthering Krullnar's Kavzar Project once it was proved viable

Now, I'm admitting that I'm going off what little I know from the fan-fiction, but I'm wondering if I'm missing any other Projects, or whether there's more details about the listed Projects that I'm missing.

Edited February 16, 2011 by Guest

[guyverfanatic]

The Mark 2 tech is from the GWOTG universe.

[Azaar]

Really? I thought it came out from the WG2 universe, like the Warrior Kavzar. Goes to show how well I remember things without looking directly at them.

[McAvoy]

Nope. It came from GWotG universe.

You should be punished. Go read the entire GWotG site. There will be a test and then a thesis.

[WarriorZoalord]

Nope. It came from GWotG universe.

You should be punished. Go read the entire GWotG site. There will be a test and then a thesis.

Oooh thats evil. So Glad your not my teacher.

To be more Precise, Mk. II is from the GWotG universe, but it was during the Crossover with WG that it was first mentioned in the WG universe, so it's possible he never read GWotG. there are many Examples of mk II tech in those fics as opposed to the two Active examples of Mk II tech in WG.

In GWotG I believe Mk II has enhanced everything from standard Unit G's to Fighter Guyver II which is actually a W'Kar unit (Greg's unit on his brother.) Plus GWotG also has a lot more "upgrade" units like the gigantic.

[McAvoy]

You are correct. Firepower Upgrade, Stealth Upgrade, Warrior Upgrade, and even then there were Mk. II versions of them too.

I forgot who created it, either Grend or Dibblis. Basically it's relatively simple but painful. You can link up to a Relic control medal with the upgrade and recieve it there like Fighter Guyver. Various abilities pop up and how much of it as well. It seems that a unit upgraded with the Mk. II as opposed to a unit created with the Mk. II is different, like a standard unit. It seems to be more efficient for the unit to be built from the beginning with the Mk. II.

Fighter Guyver out of the whole cast seems to have the greatest boost from the Mk. II. I estimated awhile back that he was between 6 to 8x at first and was between 16 to 20x after being upgraded to Mk. II. The Warrior units seem to get a much larger increase overall though. Going from barely withstanding a single mega smasher unshielded to a four times that amount. Shields increasing in power fivefold, etc.

[Azaar]

I stand corrected, then. GWOTG, I admit to have never read -- I enjoyed reading the Warrior Guyver stuff too much. I probably just got my wires crossed, since it's admittedly been a while since I read the fan-fiction and was going off what I remembered of it -- I'm gonna start re-reading to see what all has changed (particularly in Time War), and see what other story elements have been brought out.

Are there any projects that are missing, though? I really am interested in finding out more about the Genesis Project, at least, though the Neo-Kavzar Project seems interesting as well (I'd likely need to read through the Angel fan-fiction with a fine-tooth comb to get whatever details I could from it, though).

[McAvoy]

There are a ton of projects big and small I am sure you are missing. We are only seeing a small part of the whole Warrior Project. I am sure there were failed projects of seperate lines of thinking.

You forgot the Matrix which seems to be what Solom's wife was working on. I wonder where she is at in the WG2 universe.

You also forgot the other Big Project, the Nova Project.

[Azaar]

Crap. The Nova Project, I did remember... just forgot to type it in. Spaced it -- I must be going senile at an early age. Ah well, I'll edit the original post and add them in. I'm sure I'm missing a lot of others, too -- bet there's more added to the re-writes that I'll pick up on when I read over them.

The Matrix, though, I thought was something extra-dimensional. Didn't realize Solom's wife might have been working on it -- maybe part of the re-write? Or has it just been so long since I've read over the fan-fiction that I forgot it? One way to find out.

[Juggernought]

Part of the rewrite, Solom's wife developed it on mars.

[*zeo]

Part of the rewrite, Solom's wife developed it on mars.

More like something we never got into, lots of sub plot that goes into the thinking out of the overall story that doesn't always get explained until much later...

[Sully]

Curiosity prompted me to start this: what all Gen Projects have there been in the WG Universe, and what is widely known about them? Off the top of my head, I'm coming up with these:

Genesis -- a thread hinted that the Genesis Project was meant to make Unit-Gs more mass-production, creating dormant units more quickly, but I can't find any other information because the search function won't let me; whatever further details that have been revealed would be appreciated

Zoaforms -- Pre-Unit-G/Kavzar, discarded by the Gen in favor of furthering Krullnar's Kavzar Project once it was proved viable.

In terms of Gen Projects

Gensis - Is the name of the ship that Solom arrived to Earth in. It's the old centre of the Warrior Project and as such holds most of the more sucessful Prototype Units.

Zoa-forms - This project pretty much is answered in re-wrote Time War part 1. Zoa-forms where made by the Uranus. The Gen simply copied their work to begin with and then modified years later. It was never really their work to discard. Zeugma could have ended up very different but she's basically an advanced human modied Zoalord made from samples taken from Alkanphel. As said in the story the Gen are aware of the flaw of humanity and how that flaw is still there in it's Zoalords. They worked on limiting that (Kavzar Project) and if you look at their last Master Zoalord they made for their own protection was Seraph. What's said about here in the fiction is very important.

[Azaar]

Hmm, okay. Somewhere, I thought I read something recently about a Gen Project that was allowing Unit-Gs to be grown more quickly, and it had been referred to as the Genesis Project.

As for Seraph, I know she started out as a Master Zoalord, and then apparently made into the third Enforcer Kavzar somehow? Am I understanding that right, or am I still confused?

[McAvoy]

I have to check. But we do know that Prime and Secundus were the first two. They are of standard Enforcer Kavzar design where Seraph is not. It is possible that after becoming a Angle-like Kavzar that she was given the rank of a Enforcer Kavzar.

[Azaar]

Oh, so Seraph looks like Angel, then? Interesting... very interesting...

[Sully]

Ummm normally I'd say "no Comment"... But lets just say, you'd be wrong with your guesses. Time War to 7 Days has a flow for Seraph. It's not guessable yet but fact of the matter is there is a flow.

Enforcer Prime was the first Enforcer Kavzar. Was he the first successful Kavzar though? Here's a question you should consider though what is his relationship (hell all Kavzar in fact) with Seraph?

[Azaar]

Ummm normally I'd say "no Comment"... But lets just say, you'd be wrong with your guesses. Time War to 7 Days has a flow for Seraph. It's not guessable yet but fact of the matter is there is a flow.

Enforcer Prime was the first Enforcer Kavzar. Was he the first successful Kavzar though? Here's a question you should consider though what is his relationship (hell all Kavzar in fact) with Seraph?

Curiouser and curiouser. If we're going to follow that track... the implication exists that Seraph is a go-between. Not truly zoaform (anymore), not Kavzar. So she would therefore be a bridge between Zoalords and Kavzar, like Proto Guyver/Prometheus originally was. According to the old data file, the Proto Guyver unit was designed by Krullnar as a means towards realizing the Kavzar Project. Not to say that Seraph is the same exact thing as Proto Guyver/Prometheus, but it stands to reason that like him, she is part of that transition once the Gen as a whole opted to move away from zoaforms towards what ultimately became the Kavzar. At least, that seems like a workable theory. I still maintain we need to see a picture of Seraph -- just to satisfy curiosity, if nothing else.

*Edit: I'll clarify -- Proto Guyver/Prometheus is still considered a Guyver, as per his current data file, but acknowledged as a step towards Krullnar creating the Control Crystal needed for the Kavzar Project. Perhaps Seraph has something like a prototype Kavzar Control Crystal now, rather than the zoacrystal? It might explain how she's a hybrid of Zoalord and Kavzar, seen in that light.

[McAvoy]

Ummm normally I'd say "no Comment"... But lets just say, you'd be wrong with your guesses. Time War to 7 Days has a flow for Seraph. It's not guessable yet but fact of the matter is there is a flow.

Enforcer Prime was the first Enforcer Kavzar. Was he the first successful Kavzar though? Here's a question you should consider though what is his relationship (hell all Kavzar in fact) with Seraph?

Well all we know unless it has changed is that Prime is the first of what we know of as an Enforcer Kavzar and Krullnar's last success. It's reasonable to assume that other Gen have created successful or unsuccessful Kavzar versions of their own.

[jedi-guyver]

Could it also be that Seraph is the zoalord attempt to merge Zoalord and guyver, while proto-guyver was the guyver attempt to merge both Guyver and Zoalord?

Like going about a problem from both sides before you get a fully realized answer.

[Sully]

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