Sully Posted December 22, 2009 Posted December 22, 2009 Ok guys I don't normally do this but for once I'm going to give you guys a choice on 2 characters and part of what will happen to them in the rewrite of the Fan-Fiction for their setup. Has the rewrite will happen over the next few months I've an option of changing 1 characters and introducing a new'ish character. Fact of the matter is Book 15 is what we consider the start point of where the Guyver books end and events of the Fan-Fiction start taking over and changing things (e.g. Purg'stall is rescued by Netasha who has being secretly at work their). Guyver 3 loses his battle for the Arziona Relic and from their it's the beginning of the end for the Zeus Thunderbolt. Proto Zoalords are produced on number and proceed to kick his and there ass. Now heres where you guys have a choice to make on 2 characters. 1. Aptom - Choice is this. In book 15 he is captured. So the choice is this. Does the Dragon Lord and Guyver Exceed happen. Big fight but here's where events take over frm the fan-fiction. Dragon lord lives and Aptom doesn't get to kill him but he's defeated. Needless to say he's not getting a pretty time from Chronos and has detailed in the fiction the Dragon Lord in the end makes it back into the top ranks of Chronos (aka Alkanphel forgives him and the other 2). But Aptom would have absorbed the Bio-Freezer and the cloaking zoanoid and from there events in later fan-fictions are based on that verion of Aptom not the V5. The other side fo the choice is Guyver 1 frees Aptom in another way that involves him somehow getting the will to dominate the Gigantic unit and force Guyver 3's downfall in Arizona and that Aptom and the Bio-Freezer live (note these are recvent enough events in the book). 2. Guyver II F - This depends on how many of you are up to date with recent offical book stuff. In the Guyver books recently in the building that is now in the fiction ACTF HQ, Chronos was working or had a test artifical unit G. This was an incomplete unit based of the Guyver 2's samples. She escaped from the building in style, and with new and improved Aptom's help defeated a team of Enzyme 3's. This works well with the fan-fiction in that in the fiction we had already shown that Guyver 2 and Guyver Zoanoid had their control medals completely repaired by Chronos. So knowledge of the Unit G and how it works is already established and Natasha would be somewhat involved. Choice is this do we have the event happen or is something that simply never happened? The character would have pretty much the same start she's already had in the books. What happens there is larely based on the next book or 2 from Takaya and how the fan-fction progresses but has this will be considered fan-fiction from there will be changed ot meet the needs of the later fan-fiction. So there you go guys up to you from here. Quote
Juggernought Posted December 22, 2009 Posted December 22, 2009 For me i would go with Female Guyver 2.... Quote
Sully Posted December 22, 2009 Author Posted December 22, 2009 For me i would go with Female Guyver 2.... You could have both Quote
Juggernought Posted December 23, 2009 Posted December 23, 2009 Haha, well I didn't know I could be greedy for once.....BOTH! Quote
guyverfanatic Posted December 23, 2009 Posted December 23, 2009 It's a hard choice, but I say Aptom. Quote
Sully Posted December 24, 2009 Author Posted December 24, 2009 It's a hard choice, but I say Aptom. it's not a choice between them. Question is this really. Should we use both new (well updated) characters from the book? Time line wise it fits. But in what way would you think it would impact the fan-fiction? Quote
guyverfanatic Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 It's a hard choice, but I say Aptom. it's not a choice between them. Question is this really. Should we use both new (well updated) characters from the book? Time line wise it fits. But in what way would you think it would impact the fan-fiction? That's a good question. I'd have to think about that. >_< Quote
Juggernought Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 As far as FG2 i don't think it would change much, probably she would be the reason for causing Chronos trouble every so often at random bases and areas of operation. Perhaps not a main concern as far as threat level but definitely someone high on their priority list to recover for more research in further developing more of such units. For Aptom I think it would change slightly because if he discovers his new ability to basically dominate the Gigantic unit by pure will alone, then he could disrupt many of the plans/operations that Guyver 3 and 1 would have carried out. Agito's downfall could potentially happen much earlier and the instances in the fan fic where he was discovered snooping, with those new zoanoid powers ie- the cloaking zoanoid, he might of not got found out in those instances. Of course perhaps the overall results will remain the same but they way they come about i think would be completely different from how they are now. Quote
*zeo Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 For Aptom I think it would change slightly because if he discovers his new ability to basically dominate the Gigantic unit by pure will alone, then he could disrupt many of the plans/operations that Guyver 3 and 1 would have carried out. What? Quote
Juggernought Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 Ha, that was a HUGE misinterpretation on my part....was in a rush typin this between flights so didn't quite catch that Sully meant Guyver 1...Completely disregard the last part of my previous post...wow. Thanks for the heads up though! Quote
McAvoy Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 I like both of your ideas on both characters. Guyver II F, would work well to repair both of the Guyver 2 and Guyver Zoanoid's control medals. Perhaps a step program for Chronos to understand the workings of the control medal itself? Like: Step 1: Repair Guyver 2 and Guyver Zoanoid's control medal Step 2: Create a new control medal from scratch Step 3: Work on a more advanced model like Alkanphel's. Step... 22: Create a Chronos made Warrior Guyver unit or equal I personally do no like Exceed or Dragon form Khan. If you write out those abilities, I woulnd't mind. Quote
largo Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 I personally do no like Exceed or Dragon form Khan. If you write out those abilities, I woulnd't mind. I personally agree with this one. Quote
Guyver_Astray Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 I could be wrong, since it's been a while since I last read the fic, but was Natasha the one who activated the damaged Warrior Unit in one of the 7 Days of Hell chapters? Quote
McAvoy Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Yes. But she had to basically rebuild it. Many systems were incomplete to begin with and she rebuilt it with her considerable knowledge. Some systems are still not up to par with oter systems like the HSL or even bio boosting system. Quote
Sully Posted December 29, 2009 Author Posted December 29, 2009 I could be wrong, since it's been a while since I last read the fic, but was Natasha the one who activated the damaged Warrior Unit in one of the 7 Days of Hell chapters? Yes. But she had to basically rebuild it. Many systems were incomplete to begin with and she rebuilt it with her considerable knowledge. Some systems are still not up to par with oter systems like the HSL or even bio boosting system. Umm that didn't quite make sense. Two different units in question there....? Quote
Juggernought Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 I could be wrong, since it's been a while since I last read the fic, but was Natasha the one who activated the damaged Warrior Unit in one of the 7 Days of Hell chapters? She did activate a damaged Warrior Unit. And currently she's still in the damaged relic surrounded by pieces of a matrix....presumably being either repaired, or upgraded. Her status is a big unknown. Quote
Sully Posted December 31, 2009 Author Posted December 31, 2009 I could be wrong, since it's been a while since I last read the fic, but was Natasha the one who activated the damaged Warrior Unit in one of the 7 Days of Hell chapters? She did activate a damaged Warrior Unit. And currently she's still in the damaged relic surrounded by pieces of a matrix....presumably being either repaired, or upgraded. Her status is a big unknown. Nope, she's one of the Cocoon's in the Ark now. To connect the dots... Her unit is damaged. Matrix shards hovering between 2 control speres of the Chan Ship that is based on advanced creator tech from the Warrior Guyver 2's universe... Her damaged though infected body put there floating between the 2 control medals. In total there are 3 cocoons on the Ark. To name them. 1. Warrior Guyver Natasha = possible Dreadnought like being = A mix of matrix (though heavily damaged, Darmon cystal and warrior guyver 2 universe tech). 2. Alkanphel = result of test type unit remover and his warrior portotype unit = what that will become is going to stay unknown. 3. Kron = maybe that head shouldn't have being tossed at Imakarum. He wasn't quite dead. Quote
Guyver_Astray Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 I could be wrong, since it's been a while since I last read the fic, but was Natasha the one who activated the damaged Warrior Unit in one of the 7 Days of Hell chapters? She did activate a damaged Warrior Unit. And currently she's still in the damaged relic surrounded by pieces of a matrix....presumably being either repaired, or upgraded. Her status is a big unknown. Nope, she's one of the Cocoon's in the Ark now. To connect the dots... Her unit is damaged. Matrix shards hovering between 2 control speres of the Chan Ship that is based on advanced creator tech from the Warrior Guyver 2's universe... Her damaged though infected body put there floating between the 2 control medals. In total there are 3 cocoons on the Ark. To name them. 1. Warrior Guyver Natasha = possible Dreadnought like being = A mix of matrix (though heavily damaged, Darmon cystal and warrior guyver 2 universe tech). 2. Alkanphel = result of test type unit remover and his warrior portotype unit = what that will become is going to stay unknown. 3. Kron = maybe that head shouldn't have being tossed at Imakarum. He wasn't quite dead. That's cool. Was it ever revealed who Guyver 4 from the manga was? Like, did they say she was Valcuria or is it someone else? Quote
guyverfanatic Posted January 2, 2010 Posted January 2, 2010 That's cool.Was it ever revealed who Guyver 4 from the manga was? Like, did they say she was Valcuria or is it someone else? She's actually Guyver 2 Female. Yes, she is Valcuria. Quote
Sully Posted January 3, 2010 Author Posted January 3, 2010 That's cool.Was it ever revealed who Guyver 4 from the manga was? Like, did they say she was Valcuria or is it someone else? She's actually Guyver 2 Female. Yes, she is Valcuria. Just to clarify so there's no confusion. In the Fan-fiction. Guyver 4 is isis a creator hybrid. Guyver 2 F is the name of Valcuria's Chronos made unit. Quote
McAvoy Posted January 4, 2010 Posted January 4, 2010 Well I was under the impression that Natasha was taken away from the Clanship control medals. Well unless they are damaged they're not going to create a Warrior Giganti. I think. Though the in fluence of them plus broken shards of the Matrix and Darmon infection could create a extremely powerful mutation. Perhaps good for Chronos or bad for Earth. On top of that if and when the Matrix reforms itself it could according to the will of Natasha or the Darmon infection whichever is dominant could create an equal or better to Dreadnought. Quote
Sully Posted January 4, 2010 Author Posted January 4, 2010 Well I was under the impression that Natasha was taken away from the Clanship control medals. Well unless they are damaged they're not going to create a Warrior Giganti. I think. Though the in fluence of them plus broken shards of the Matrix and Darmon infection could create a extremely powerful mutation. Perhaps good for Chronos or bad for Earth. Ulitmately the Control medals of the Clan Ship will do what is the will of the host and is commanded (in other words SAVE ME!). The control medal of the Relic's Point ship where not damaged but the ship around it was. On top of that if and when the Matrix reforms itself it could according to the will of Natasha or the Darmon infection whichever is dominant could create an equal or better to Dreadnought. That would be "No Comment :P" Quote
McAvoy Posted January 4, 2010 Posted January 4, 2010 Well I was under the impression that Natasha was taken away from the Clanship control medals. Well unless they are damaged they're not going to create a Warrior Giganti. I think. Though the in fluence of them plus broken shards of the Matrix and Darmon infection could create a extremely powerful mutation. Perhaps good for Chronos or bad for Earth. Ulitmately the Control medals of the Clan Ship will do what is the will of the host and is commanded (in other words SAVE ME!). The control medal of the Relic's Point ship where not damaged but the ship around it was. On top of that if and when the Matrix reforms itself it could according to the will of Natasha or the Darmon infection whichever is dominant could create an equal or better to Dreadnought. That would be "No Comment :P" True on both parts. However, in both cases in the normal Gigantic and the Warrior Gigantic, both ships were being destroyed. Perhaps the will of the host while under the threat of imminent death is a factor. i doubt Natasha has that will. Sure she's damaged and sick, but not being vaporized. Quote
Juggernought Posted January 4, 2010 Posted January 4, 2010 I'm sure with the war raging on outside and energy blasts tearing into it's body, the ship has enough sense to realize that it more than likely won't survive for long and will seek other means to preserve itself. Quote
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