Fan-Fcition - who do you want more detail on?

[Sully]

As ye know I plan some slight changes and mostly beefing up to the current fan-fiction.

So pretty much for me I foudn the break from the fan-fic in a way was a good thing has it allows me to be objective and spot where things simply where wrong. After reading all the stories I've wroth for the most part its all good when you look at the collective result. But some stories just do not work. Rescue for example is a good idea. Overall story = WG and Sean rescue Cori. But it's a mess of character interaction and 2 new characters to the story. A Cross over with the Rapier Guyver fan-fiction (which will stay) and XT9 who was meant to be a big introduced character turned to pot and the character killed off (was all over a stupid aruement I'd with Mike that we didn't work out - result = Xt9 dead and the plot making noooooo sense!!!!). This will be fixed up. Though the fait of XT9 will still most likely be death in that story. It will be a longer story with him alive until the end (maybe he might live but still overall result will be death has far has most people know !!!).

Question for you guys is is there something else that you feel has being left open ended and maybe forgotten? Or maybe a character that needed more to it bfore being killed off?

Note: another fic of mine that never got finished will be worked on during the dust off of the fiction. It's called "Terror of the Martix". It's a story based on what the Matrix got up to before it ended up stuck in Dreadnoughts control medal. Lets just say all it did wasn't rosey before Dreadnought was made. There is some..thing that lurks...

[Juggernought]

One thing i always wondered about was the involvement of the Mercenary Guyvers, they were a part of the action for awhile but after Dreadnought came about and that fight with Alkanphel and that Grakken guyver like being they seemed to kinda disappear into nothingness.

Also that guy who originally had the 1st recorded Acear Unit, what part did he play in the whole Grakken scheme of things? Life Force guyver, whilst still not a main character, did make appearances randomly in some scenes, does he have a part in all of this?

Will that Creator warrior that got captured by Chronos have any part to play in overall things? Also did XT9's companion have anymore to do with the story or was it just a left over of his past that wasn't significant? And does the Plasmoid race have a big part to play as they are similar to the Grakkens in their revenge against the Creators?

Ha, that's all for now, guess if i find more i'll just add it.

[guyverfanatic]

I'd like to see more Life Force Guyver.

[Sully]

One thing i always wondered about was the involvement of the Mercenary Guyvers, they were a part of the action for awhile but after Dreadnought came about and that fight with Alkanphel and that Grakken guyver like being they seemed to kinda disappear into nothingness.

They have pretty much no involvement in 7 days and the 2 stores before it. So that part was delibterate. Given their overall power level they are being shielded by the Grakken from what's happening in Oz. Out of all the reaminding ones only WG5 could do something worthwhile down there and well he's a little whacho at the mo (about the only hint you're getting). The rest would only be cannon fodder if they joined what is happening in 7 Days. This is actually something I'll be going into a lot more detail in the next fiction which is more of a character building story and has I posted before a story with near zero fights. Though there will be a lot of talk of past battles that lead up to where Characters find themselves today. It's not hard to guess the Mercs are not all exactly happy.

Also that guy who originally had the 1st recorded Acear Unit, what part did he play in the whole Grakken scheme of things?

This is something I aggree doesn't make sense that should have. Because it was never explained either in Time War or before Chronos broke him out of jail or even mentioned afterwards. The idea was the "in the beginning" would explain it in more detail but has that story is kinda on hold (I've yet to decide how to handle recent events in the offical Story has these could still be somewhat taken into the fan-fiction has early characters and events that shapped the current story or not. But has that is on-hold for the time being when the eariler stories are given their shake up yes there will be more detail on him and what he did. When "In the Beginning" gets to him it'll basically confirm what was said about him. Chronos ' goal for him steams from what happened in Area 51 during X Day.

Life Force guyver, whilst still not a main character, did make appearances randomly in some scenes, does he have a part in all of this?

This would be more deliberate. for the Assasin Guyver story this guy is more of the bad guy of the fiction. An unknown who can't be reasoned with most of the time and is completely Out of Control 99% of the time. Will there be more of a future story for him? Yes but he'll not be getting more detail just yet and is a future part of the story for Isis and him to meet again. I'll not be using him against Jason has simply put the character is no longer in his league power level wise and would simply be cannon fodder. For the Assissin fiction he makes a dam good villan.

Will that Creator warrior that got captured by Chronos have any part to play in overall things?.

No comment.

Also did XT9's companion have anymore to do with the story or was it just a left over of his past that wasn't significant?.

this really has a 2 part answer.

Part 1.

Orginal idea = XT9 and XT10 would join the story has basically the main people against the Creators on Earth and would have an uneasy relationship with Chronos and ACTF while making life hard for the Creator new test projects.

Part 2 (this will be longer).

What happened was XT9 was killed off due to basically me having an auguement with it's creator Mike Cox over something or another that was stupid and short sighted of me. So to get back the story at the time under my control and not have a character based on his idea XT10 basically was wrote out by Zygote Guyver. The idea being that Zygote Guyver simply replaced her unit. This will not be changed in the re-weite of Rescue. Because in the end while Mike and I are getting along well the events that played out have to play out has the whole fiction is based on events from there. Zygote Guyver is also a major character the way she is now so that can't be changed. XT9 also has to die. Just he'll have a better story before he does.

Does that mean XT10 is dead though? No Comment

And does the Plasmoid race have a big part to play as they are similar to the Grakkens in their revenge against the Creators?

No comment.

I'd like to see more Life Force Guyver.

From the re-writes no he'll not get much if any more detail. But future stories yep, has said up there for Juggernought, Life Force Guyver is pretty much the main bad guy for the Assassin Guyver fiction.

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[McAvoy]

I agree that Rescue was a mess. Aside from that< i woukld reread the stories again because nothing comes to mind.

Though I would personally would have liked to see some sort of lash out against Jason after Revenge. Maybe even alittle against himself too. He did betray ACTF to help out his hated enemy even if he did save his sister. It must have done something to him personally.

[Sully]

I agree that Rescue was a mess. Aside from that< i woukld reread the stories again because nothing comes to mind.

Though I would personally would have liked to see some sort of lash out against Jason after Revenge. Maybe even alittle against himself too. He did betray ACTF to help out his hated enemy even if he did save his sister. It must have done something to him personally.

This is something that needs to be done alright properly has in the end it was the catalyst to why Dreadnought in the end left the ACTF in 7 Days.

[Juggernought]

Will anymore be said about the crossover stories that happened in the W'kar universe such as the effects of the fight with the Atrahasis when all the warriors went through that vortex? Or even the threat of the Creators and Warrior Kavzars from that dimension?

Are there any further repercussions for Dreadnought's interference with Fiona's home world other than the creation of the Eliminator; repercussions in her world or Dreadnought's universe?

Will anymore be explained about the origins of the Hunter and the being that the Crystallite infection is based on?

[Sully]

Will anymore be said about the crossover stories that happened in the W'kar universe such as the effects of the fight with the Atrahasis when all the warriors went through that vortex? Or even the threat of the Creators and Warrior Kavzars from that dimension?

Is this a question about the future or past wrote fiction?

Are there any further repercussions for Dreadnought's interference with Fiona's home world other than the creation of the Eliminator; repercussions in her world or Dreadnought's universe?

Simply put no. I've no intention of visiting the Strange World universe again. Pretty much in that universe things where closed up. 3 Guyvers now face a Chronos without Zoalords and Creators with no interest in Earth. They also lack any technology to cross into the main fiction and the only thing they had which Dreadnought really wanted was Fiona. He's no reason to go back there and neither has Fiona. Has such very unlikely we'll ever see that again as there is no plot reasons to do it.

Will anymore be explained about the origins of the Hunter and the being that the Crystallite infection is based on?

Yes.

[Juggernought]

Is this a question about the future or past wrote fiction?

Future fiction...

[Sully]

Is this a question about the future or past wrote fiction?

Future fiction...

No comment.

This tread is more for things that should have being answered in past fictions but was left unanswered or simply an event that didn't have enough detail to it. Stuff planned for the future unless very obvious will mostly get a no comment from me

Another thing that needs to be sorted are the following:

*. Why Chronos left Area 51 alone (hint = Assassin Guyver fan-fiction for part of the answer).

*. Why Chronos and the Grakken are at war should have being explained better and given more detail in the Union story.

*. Cori being found alive and get getting the Battle Unit.

*. Why Chronos didn't want to activate the 2 Battle units.

*. Why Chronos allowed Warrior Guyver Vamoure to be made when it's obviously the unit Alkanphel himself wanted. This I'll answer now - they got a remover now for a warrior unit.It's not being kept has a weapon against the ACTF but to control the Zoa-form Guyvers. This though most likely will be left has is in the fiction only something from Imakarum quoting that it'll be his backup.

*. Warrior Guyver 2's fan-fiction needs an edit badly has things are simply wrong there. Alkanphel's knowledge of the Creators for example was never explained. The 2 Dorment units should have being activated on him... reason why was for lack of a better word crap. Warrior Guyver 2's use of his "will" to beat a remover when we now know it's to do with charge and no matter of ones "will" would make a differance....

[guyverfanatic]

I look forward to the new/rewritten stories.

[Sully]

I look forward to the new/rewritten stories.

The fictions won't be all completely re-written. Just given a very decent tidy up and a large number of characters more of a story. Overall what happened before will happen again with the same net results.

also the time line will be fixed in all the fan-fictions based in the WG-Fan-fic universe so that they match up with the offical story.

Out of all of them Rescue though will be the most heavily re-wrote story but it too will have most of the key events still being the same. Union, Time War and Revenge are all also going to be matching up with the style of writing I now use and lose their script like look.

Apart from time lines, the other authors works will not be edited at all by me unless it's something I find blarling wrong (the ease they got the Guyver units needs fixing to explain how they got it and who was behind it). But overall I'll be hopeing to get these events fixed by the guys themselves over the next few months.

[WarriorZoalord]

so will it basically be a Chronicles Version of the old fics? pretty much similar story, but things changed around?

[Sully]

so will it basically be a Chronicles Version of the old fics? pretty much similar story, but things changed around?

Nothing will be changed around to the degree of Chronicles. There will simply be more to the orginal story. E.G. Time War might start off with Zeugma instead pre Creators arriving and go into more debt about the Warrior Project. But the fights with Guyver Zoalord will be exactly has they are now. Anoother edition would be how and why Cyber Guyver saved FG2 before he arrived in the WG time line.

The Warrior Guyver 2 story would be also pretty much has it is now. Only no scrpit and more detail given to why characters did what they did and only real change would be where the Battle Guyver and Turbo unit came from.

Here's a list about the types changes upcoming that will happen:

1. Added Detail Change = Some character that was in the story that really should have either had more of an intro or simply not dropped like a hot snot in the next fiction. E.G. More detial on the Mercs during All Things change. Guyver XT9 having more of a story would be another example.

2. Time Line Change = The time line in the fiction and the offical Tayakaya books it is based on needs to be fixed has the fan-fiction is badly wrong (off by MILLIONS!!!!).

3. Things that simply shouldn't have happend the way they did because it simply doesn't make sense when you think about it. = e.g. Solom arriving back on Earth with only 3 Kavzar and being killed... then the other Creators calmly giving away their Aceaer units to ACTF afterwards like nothing happened. Solom then being barely talked about even though his Son is leading a mission during All Things Change. The Grakken's first appearance in Union is another. Gigantic Dark and Gignatic Guyver being weaker than a Warrior Guyver is another big agent of change when you think about it.

But even after you consider what happens with those 3 types of changes overall. The fiction will not be all that different to what it is now. Overall even if you consider 3 the net results will still be the same. Solom will still be killed off on Earth. Just no where near has easy.

It'll not be on the scale of Chronicals whish is basically a total rewrite fo the fiction taking all present characters into account and given a fresh look. But it'll be interesting.

[gelionlegends]

Well i know this character isn't a guyver and such but he does help the guyvers and the other human forces when he can while collecting data and zoanoids.

This person is aptom who doesn't have a data file or any stories in what he has been up to beyond those guest appearances in some of the guyver stories.

So why not have a go at righting 2-3 stories with aptom either during the cronos take over or after, each one could deal with something not dealt within some of guyver stories be it from the novas or angel birth of the psi guyver or warrior guyver even the seven days of hell which i would think aptom would have enjoyed to some extent with so many new or improved zoanoids running about even the creators ship to absorb parts of.

this could be a way for you to relax from the constant guyver main characters so basing a story on the rogue zoanoid aptom from his creation along with his team mates, there death and him being reprocessed and seeking his revenge to becoming the rogue we know now and what he gets upto through the different guyvers appearing.

That or if you aren't up to writing about him then getting someone else as it would be good to see what he gets up to.

sort of like with the other rogue zoanoids from the naturals the ones that were left behind to survive when the advent left to those zoalords that are now rogue.

[Sully]

Much like Sho and Aigto, Aptom would never be classed a major character in my side of the fan-fiction has he's simply in the wrong location.

Saying that yes during the re-write where possible Apotm could be given a lot more time has he was a major character in the setup of Jason getting his unit. :

So basically yes where it fits Aptom will be in the story and will be getting some detail and his Zoalord Aptom form would be something high on the to do list so that his Data File can be done properly.

[gelionlegends]

yeah i agree with you that in your stories aptom is more as a character who in the ends provides whatas need for the main star to obtain whatever it is that is needed.

not that his role when it comes to it inthese stories is a lesser character just that its more along the role of a spy and not a front line fighter like most guyvers.

that being said someone else would have if they are up to doing it write the story of aptom and fight it into the warrior guyver universe.

[largo]

So basically what your getting at gelionlegends is that aptom is nothing more the a plot device.

[Juggernought]

For now at least he is, mostly Aptom's role is a spy for the ACTF I don't think he even wished to become a major powerhouse until he received his zoalord powers and now he is able to contend with the zoalords, nearly all the zoanoids and even some of the creator warriors not to mention the guyvers

[gelionlegends]

Well in this case yes as at this moment in time for most of the stories of the guyver aptom is a plot device very useful one too.

As you will have notived he does fill in the role in any story nicely as a sort of anti hero getting or finding information and such for the guyvers and their alliances but possibly having his own agender he is seeking to do whether that is one of many like akito or maybe not as grand but still someting that will be noticed.

But until an author feels up to writing a couple of stories featuring him as the main character we wont really have a clear picture and role he has in the Warrior Guyver Universe. As any story written on him as such will have to hit some points of the other guyver stories written that aptom appears in. though if this is the main aptom or just one of his clones would have to be upto the author as aptom can split himself up into identical copies of himself and send them out to act like a spy and gain information.

that and what ever the data file says will give the author an idea on what to write like gaining any new zoanoids or who he has helped and so on.

though with the data file there would i think be some problems as if he absorbs a new zoanoid that isn't on the data file or such then updating it would have to be done.

but we have gotten off topic a bit as i think this is reall about what guyver characters or other more known zoanoids or characters need their own time to shine instead of a quick 2-3 lot of paragraph of them doing something or mentioned doing something.

[Sully]

Aptom simply isn't going to get stories devoted to him at all (he will get parts of course where he's the main focus). This isn't the Warrior Aptom fan-fiction it's the Warrior Guyver fan-fiction. Aptom is an important part of it, but he's not a key character and most importantly he's not a fan-fiction character. Aptom is a very well developed character of the offical story from Takaya. Where that ends and the fan-fiction begins will be explained more in the fan-fiction based before Union so yes in that Aptom could possibly have a large part to play has it started off just before X Day. So if you look at the Calendar there is a lot of time to fill in between there and Union. So he doesn't need the same amount of time development wise has Jason or Isis for example or Stephen Cain but yes he will get some time espeically in the early fiction.

[McAvoy]

Going back to the Warrior Guyver remover thing you mentioned.

If I remember correctly, Guyver 4 had a unit remover that can remove anything up to a full flegded Warrior Guyver unit. The datafile that mentions that doesn't really say if it can remove anything up to a Solom type Warrior unit G-5 or just anything up to let's say the Life Force Guyver but not the Warrior Guyver units.

I vaguely remember or maybe my mind is playing tricks on me but Chronos captured a Warrior Guyver unit remover from the Clanship?

[Juggernought]

Also will there be a detailed fight as with the one that happened between Life Force and Primitive Guyver? Just curious to know exactly how he got into the state he was when Jason and Cory encountered him.

[Sully]

Going back to the Warrior Guyver remover thing you mentioned.

If I remember correctly, Guyver 4 had a unit remover that can remove anything up to a full flegded Warrior Guyver unit. The datafile that mentions that doesn't really say if it can remove anything up to a Solom type Warrior unit G-5 or just anything up to let's say the Life Force Guyver but not the Warrior Guyver units.

Guyver 4's unit can remove a lot of different units has it is a more modren Creator unit. So anything they have decent information on from their records this unit can remove. A lot of test units though it can't remove.

I vaguely remember or maybe my mind is playing tricks on me but Chronos captured a Warrior Guyver unit remover from the Clanship?

Yes they did capture one. Will they start hunting Warrior Guyvers with it? who knows but it's also the only thing they can use to keep Warrior Guyver Vamore in check. So it's not like they will want to waste it either.

Also will there be a detailed fight as with the one that happened between Life Force and Primitive Guyver? Just curious to know exactly how he got into the state he was when Jason and Cory encountered him.

Jason and Cori basically saw what happens if he couldn't feed . The host and the unit go dormant and wait until someone is stupid enough to get close and then feeds.

How he got to that state? Well he didn't beat Primitive Guyver, Primitive Guyver won that fight and left him there to rot (though being Primitive Guyver he probably had a plan for him at some point ) I'lkl not go into detail in HOW he won the fight though even after the rewrite.

[McAvoy]

I prefer that you left that fight alone. It adds to the mystique about Primitive Guyver.