Poll: Warrior Guyver vs. Warrior Guyver

[Destroyer Guyver]

Your not the only one, i always assumed the Gravity Shield was limited to mainly absorbing and fireing gravity attacks with some low level spacial warping ability. I NEVER would have guessed it was so versitile.

[*zeo]

Well, just goes to show that the fic has a lot that isn't immediately apparent unless you really think about all the small details.

1) We have repeatedly suggested the Gravity Shield was created to defeat the Black Nova Unit but the Black Nova Unit is a 10x character with a wide range of abilities. It would hardly be effective if it relied on simple gravity tennis to defeat that unit's higher power level.

2) We have shown the Gravity Shield can do other things, some like the using the pressure cannon to recover lost energy being a hint of its greater capabilities.

3) The Guyver is known for gravity manipulation, in fact most of its abilities are derived from gravity manipulation.

4) We have hinted many times that the WG is loosely based on the Gigantic, in terms of using it as an example of the full potential of a human hosted Guyver. This was another hint that the Gravity Shield had a wide range of capabilities.

5) We over emphasized that WG2 could kill WG in the fic for exactly the reason it was too quick an assumption, especially when we kept on having Jason take on the more powerful characters and not WG2. In other words it was another hint that WG should not be underestimated.

6) The Warrior Kavzars were another hint as we showed that the WG2 units were not being used by soldiers but rather by the Creators themselves.

7) The Creators limited ability to use the power of a Warrior Unit was also a clue.

Course the CPM's can be used for some neat effects too

[OnyxPhoenix]

Oh great zeo, once more, your knowledge astounds us and makes us humble before you. (DOH!) Thanks for the additional info, my good fellow. It continues to make this site, and our own knowledge about the Guyver itself, even more wondrous than it already is.

[WarriorZoalord]

Oh great zeo, once more, your knowledge astounds us and makes us humble before you. (DOH!) Thanks for the additional info, my good fellow. It continues to make this site, and our own knowledge about the Guyver itself, even more wondrous than it already is.

Well, Zeo is the guy who does all the Datafiles if i Remember correctly. So he has to know the in's and outs of everything, Having to tell the REST of us those secrets is somehting he doesnt have to do until they are shown in the Fic

[*zeo]

Exactly, so imagine just how much I'm not telling you?

Especially about the Chronicles version of these characters. :

[WarriorZoalord]

question, the chronicles versions, will they be having stuff not seen in the normal fics. Like the gigantics strue strenght/bonus powers seen in the newer mangas that werent in the original fics?

[*zeo]

Well, if you read part two of Chronicles there was a rather revealing battle between the Gigantic and a Grakken...

[WarriorZoalord]

Hmm, been a while since i read that one, will have to re-read and see how different it was from the original.

[*zeo]

Then compare it to the original version of that battle.

[WarriorZoalord]

hmmm. hes a mighty quick summon with that cocoon, saving his ass from that grakkens megasmasher without letting sean see the cocoon. and the vibrational spike thing was something it didnt do in the original fic. and he kicked Grakkens ass a lot quicker in cronicles. but the question is. can he still grow super-sized?

[*zeo]

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But you forgot to mention the part where Sho used the Giga Smasher and everyone's response to it?

Otherwise I believe your question has been answered

[WarriorZoalord]

Meh, I kinda figured that part was somewhat obvious >> I dont wanna give too much away for those who happened to not read chronicles.

[OnyxPhoenix]

Thanks again, zeo, u r the man.

A little aside for my fellow fan Warrior Zoalord: remember, this site was started approx. around Book 8 of the graphic novel / story. Sho's additional power of Gigantic Exceed has not been mentioned so far, and probably will not, as it is something that was unknown @ the time. But, who can tell? The mods and admins have the final say, as always, so let's just bide our time and see how things turn out.

Hey zeo, "one more thing" (Jackie Chan Adventures, Uncle in his style): I assume, as WZ mentioned, that the DF's and Chronicles will reflect more about the characters and their powers. Any guess as to how far along u r @ reorganizing things? Not looking for a time frame, just a percentage, per say. Hope it's coming along well for u.

[*zeo]

Pretty much done, just waiting for the next part of Chronicles to be written before I start posting data files.

[OnyxPhoenix]

Thanks for the reply, man. Can't wait.

[WarriorZoalord]

Pretty much done, just waiting for the next part of Chronicles to be written before I start posting data files.

and when will that be? any idea on when the next part of chronicles will be done?

[*zeo]

Unknown, whenever Mike gets around to it. Lots of real life stuff in the way at the moment.

[WarriorZoalord]

know anything of how far along he is and whatnot? just curious if hes started on it but hasent beable to finish, or not started. I think wed like to see a teaser if he has any done

[McAvoy]

Obviously the difference between the original and the Chronicles version is the Giga Smasher of the Chronicles and the Hyper Smasher of the original. Chronicles Giga Smasher is 100x, whereas the Hyper Smasher is 2x.

If I were to guess, the Grakken is still 2x even in the Chronicles version, with may be more power here and there but no match for a Gigantic one on one. Whereas the Gigantic in the original is about the same power level as the Grakken without the Destroyer armor.

I also believe that there will be no Giant Gigantic in the fanfic. Its because I believe the fanfic starts after Book 15 or 16.

[guyverfanatic]

I also believe that there will be no Giant Gigantic in the fanfic. Its because I believe the fanfic starts after Book 15 or 16.

Fights with Dreadnought would end extremely fast.

[McAvoy]

Possibly. But remember some of his opponents would have a similar ability. Also, remember that many characters would recieve a similar power boost. The 100x Giga Smasher would drastically change the datafiles for one.

[*zeo]

Obviously the difference between the original and the Chronicles version is the Giga Smasher of the Chronicles and the Hyper Smasher of the original. Chronicles Giga Smasher is 100x, whereas the Hyper Smasher is 2x.

The Gigantic also showed itself to more durable, easily withstanding the Grakken lasers where as in the original battle the Gigantic took significant damage from them.

The test of strength also shows the Gigantic is stronger in the Chronicle version as well, not to mention how well it withstood the Grakken Smashers shows the Barrier Shield is also stronger.

Possibly. But remember some of his opponents would have a similar ability. Also, remember that many characters would recieve a similar power boost. The 100x Giga Smasher would drastically change the datafiles for one.

Will the other characters also get a boost or will just the Gigantic be different?

You'll just have to wait to find out

[WarriorZoalord]

remember, it was sho who willed the gigantic into existance, so its more than likely only able to reach its full potential when its bonded to him. sop for the others, its theoretical that they wont get the full boost, since it was basically custom tailored to his unit, while others can use it, its possible they cant unlock the powers of it that sho can, so IF giant Gigantic comes into play, its possible only sho could do it.

Also, if Warrior units were supposed to be the equivalent of a gigantic unit, that would mean in chronicles they would become a hell of a lot stronger. but i doubt that they will be the equivalent of a gigantic in chronicles.

thus, if we follow the Gigantic guyver 1powers with the dreadnought unit..... He just went up on the scale of the "Don't **** with" list, because Remember, mentality wise, Jason and Sho are similar in a lot of ways so its possible the Dreadnought unit for him would have similar yet more powerful version of the gigantic.

[Juggernought]

Here's my question...if the warrior guyvers have yet to fully realize all of their capabilities, and from the effects Zeo described that they could be capable of, would that mean the Praetorians would essentially have advanced versions of this power? And would they find it easier to create?

[*zeo]

Yes and no, the Praetorian Units are all based on the WG2 with the GWOTG Mark II tech upgrade.

The net result is more powerful units but the abilities are mutated every time the unit is activated because of the unpredictable nature of the MKII on the WG2.

Like Guardian's tendril whips are hardly part of the original WG2 design. :apt: