Guyver Bonding

[Spartan Warlord]

I was re-reading 7DOH...and when max was checking out fiona it mentioned that "The Warrior Unit eliminated all uneeded body fat and tissue"...does only the Warrior Unit do this...

So if a really fat person bonding with the Unit would get an instant weight loss cure (who needs a diet lol)...but also could it work in reverse meaning someone who was underweight like a size 0 the Unit would gain the right amount of weight needed for the body to be in peak physical condition (if so i guess catwalk models wouldnt approve)...any thoughts??

[Shenzon]

That's a good question. Every time I reread that part, I've always wondered that myself. I would guess all units though as I've always assumed the units would keep their hosts bodies at their bests shape.

[Spartan Warlord]

see thats wat i fort buh then XT's human form isnt very impressive like he was quiet small built and not very muscular i dnt fink...is it generic to warrior units only...

we need to bond a unit to a fat person lol

[Shenzon]

If we did that, it would put Jenny Craig and Atkins Diets out of business!! Lol...

[Spartan Warlord]

lmfao!!!...pretty much put all diets out of business...lol

[Aranor]

I would almost think the unit brings the host to its peak performing state under its current condition. Basically removing any unnecessary material. Though the concept of using the control medal to reprogram the host form is something I am trying to use.

[Spartan Warlord]

what im asking is...does only the Warrior Unit do this as there hasnt been nothing mention about the normal Guyver Unit and thus far every1 that has bonded with any unit has had an average or army build

[McAvoy]

I think it is Warrior Guyver exclusive. The HSLs give the hosts unlimited energy and stamina so they don't have to eat and at the same time burn all the fat away.

[Shenzon]

What if an older man....say 50's or 60's bonded with a Warrior Unit, would it bring his body to the age of a 20 - 30 year old to get the best out of it?

[nidhogg]

I doubt it would give them a 20-30 year old body, it'd probably peak the body for that age group at least. bat best maybe knock 10 years off.

[Aranor]

How about repairing old injuries? Say fixing a torn ACL? Adjusting the hosts eyes to no longer need glasses? I would think if the control medal of a normal guyver unit can reconstruct the host from a simple recording of the hosts DNA it would do so as the DNAsays it SHOULD be rather than how it was. To the best of my knowledge DNA does not determine the outcome of an injury. So let us say Sho had glasses before bonding, should he be able to se fine after donning the armor and thereafter?

[nidhogg]

Supposedly the unit would opptamize the host, ie minor strength increase, optical accuity/repair, hearing repair, the fun stuff: possibly even limb replacement or physical reconstruction if the host is fouled up, I think

[*zeo]

It's Warrior Unit exclusive, since as far as we know the normal units retains the host exactly as they were at the time of bonding.

For example Sho noticed he still had all his scars, etc exactly as they were before the bonding. Even after a full body regeneration he could find absolutely nothing different from before.

This is not to say a normal unit won't alter a host at all but whatever changes there may be are minor and it appears the host still needs to take care of themselves, etc.

At most I would say the host might benefit from the regenerative powers of the unit but things like blindness aren't always caused by injury. Some people are blind because of their DNA.

So it is not a clear cut answer, especially considering the Guyver Unit was originally created for the Creators who are alien from us.

The Guyver unit itself is an alien organism. So it is amazing enough it can bond with a human so easily, let alone improve the host.

Also remember a Guyver Unit is made to be removed, with a unit remover, so it doesn't perminently alter the host as otherwise it would effect the host if the unit was removed.

A Warrior Unit however is more advance and bonds to a host on a genetic level so indeed a host would get younger (to their biological peak) as can be noted from the Data Files showing the difference between actual age and biological age of the host.

Along with being put into peak physical condition and not need to eat or rest much are the benefits of a Warrior Unit Bonded host.

[Shenzon]

Speaking of Guyver bonding, any speculations to what happens to parts of the human body under the armor, like eyes, ears? I honestly think the ears regress or merging with organs to connect them to the hyper sensors. Their has to be some way for them to hear so well under the unit. I also don't think guyver actually talk under the unit. I think the sonic busters take the place of voice.

[*zeo]

Correct, eyes merge, sonic orbs are used for speach, etc..

[Shenzon]

Also, it would seem that the chest cavity must open up somehow. I doubt the mega smasher are completely contained under the chest plates themselves. It looks like the organs are deep within their chest, like where their lungs are.

[nidhogg]

well not exactly, if you watch the anime closely enough you'll see the smasher orbs aren't a solid/rigid item, they seem to have the consistency like that of a jellyfish or jello or something squishy

[Shenzon]

True, but they seem to run deep within the chest cavity. Plus I doubt something that powerful could only be contained within the armor without going inside the chest cavity, but Zeo1234 answered these questions actually on the topic of Exhaust Vents. He broke down alot about the Guyver, host, and Gigantic bonding really well.

[*zeo]

The Smasher cells expand when they are charging up to fire.

There is actual two conflicting translations on what the unit does to the host lungs.

In the first translation it was stated that the lungs collapse when the smashers start to charge up and breathing is taken up by the secondary lungs at the base of the neck where the neck tubes feed into.

The toobs btw syphon oxygen from the air and can work even underwater, allowing the Guyver to breath in virtually any environment.

The newer translation however states the lungs are replaced by the Smasher cells and the secondary lungs are in fact the new main lungs.

I personally believe the newer translation as it makes more sense, rather than keeping two sets of lungs.

The Guyver has no vocal cords so has no need to manipulate air to talk.

Also the heart is replaced with a superior version which would of course take up more space. Add the space taken up by the Smasher cells and it makes very little sense to keep them their.

Then consider when G1 mentally fired the Smashers during his fight with the first Combo Form Aptom. He couldn't open the chest plates with his hand so the smashers started charging with them closed. His chest plates even started to smoke.

Imagine then the damage they would do to the lungs if they were pressing right against them?

As to the jellyfish aspect, the cells both expand to contain the charge and also focus the particle stream like a lense.

[McAvoy]

Then consider when G1 mentally fired the Smashers during his fight with the first Combo Form Aptom. He couldn't open the chest plates with his hand so the smashers started charging with them closed. His chest plates even started to smoke.

Imagine then the damage they would do to the lungs if they were pressing right against them?

On the other hand, I doubt the whole chest cavity is taken up by the two mega smasher cells. If anything I would imagine they are protected by soe sort of barrier if they were near the cells to begin with.

[*zeo]

Doesn't have to take up the whole chest cavity, but between them and the bigger heart there would be little to no room for the lungs and makes little sense to keep the lungs near a high energy weapon.

And what ever barrier there may be the fact is the smashers made the chest plates glow and smoke and they are armor!!!

Not to mention any barrier would take up even more space making the idea of keeping the lungs there even less likely.

Besides which the Guyver doesn't need massive lung capacity.

Most of the internal organs are regressed so there is little besides the muscles and brain that would require oxygen.

Normal human lungs only extract about 10% of the air we breath but the Guyver doesn't even need to use breath to talk. All sound is generated by the sonic emitters. While the Guyver lungs are efficient enough to breath even underwater where there is little oxygen.

For example if you give a normal human gills like a fish they would barely provide enough oxygen to keep a person alive let alone conscious.

The Guyver lungs are obviously super efficent and placing them nearer the neck tubes would be more efficient for oxygen extraction.

Add that the Guyver lungs only need to supply oxygen to keep the host brain and muscles going and nothing else. Then it seems pretty clear there should only be one pair of lungs.

Regression of the other internal organs also shows the Guyver reduces redundancy. Only essential organs are kept while the organism and unit regneration handles everything else.

[gelionlegends]

if i understand it right the difference between the units, a base unit that the creators used is not tailored to anything but letting them survive in what ever environment they are in.

while the warrior unit is tailored for battle and so optimising the host for combat.

you find more base units and then modified in some way enhancing something about the unit, but those units don't really do anything much to the host when not active i think.

hasn't there been a situation were a guyver standard or up to warrior has had the tubes and throat torn out but they still keep going?

to if thats true then is it possible that it draws oxygen out of the air from any part of the body sending it to the super lungs then through the blood to were it is needed.

?.? what about the muscles would they have been enhanced to use the purer oxygen better something about the vains and capillares and such that take in the oxygen for the muscle being more of them or enhanced to a much higher degree than human ones.