Omni W'Kar

[Juggernought]

Okaaayyyy this post was like nearly 3 yrs in the making but i was watching an interesting anime the other day...anyone ever see the Heroic Age series? Well anyway, there was this one episode where the main character of the series who transforms into this massive fighting behemoth called Bellcross, he went into a frenzy or went berserk and completely shifted into this evil chaotic form. And i was thinking maybe Omni W'kar would have similarities to that...Black armor, bladed fingers, still with the bladed forearms, clawed feet, perhaps a bladed tail as well, spikes along the spine and a blazing red aura.

[McAvoy]

...or he could become a Blue Angel to go against the Red Demon/Dragon.

Love is just as strong or stronger than hatred/anger and so forth.

[Artillerus]

i would like to see the w'kar become a little more stable and rational as the unit repairs itself like an anti anubis

[guyverfanatic]

i would like to see the w'kar become a little more stable and rational as the unit repairs itself like an anti anubis

Same here. I think that would be awesome.

[Juggernought]

Personally i think that will only happen once it's fully healed. Otherwise it will use whatever means necessary, even if it means its host goes insane in the process, it will gain its former power and return to its original state. Or if it can actively draw its power from another source to fuel its healing that won't require augmenting the host emotions to draw out bio energy then perhaps Greg would gradually break through his descent into madness.

[McAvoy]

Keep in mind that the more the unit and the element repair themselves, the more the unit merges with the host. So a fully functional True W'Kar unit probably would not have a seperate distinct human and armored forms. But one, and that unit would not even need a control medal.

So would the host remain the same in the very end? Probably not. The more the unit evolves, the more the unit messes with the host's emotional state. Anubis is a good example of this. Greg is also an example of what he tries to be but has to sometimes fight his own emotions. Sort of like being the Hulk I guess.

I think if we would want to keep Greg's personality more or less the same, he would have to undergo very small evolutions.

[Juggernought]

So then what do you suppose the effect would be with the 2nd True W'kar unit? There wouldn't be a need to alter the host to that extent unless it's only to change the body in order to handle the power.

[McAvoy]

That's what happened to the original Creator who bonded to the first True W'Kar unit. It tried to change him and his own Creator body could not handle it and killed him still bonded. The other Creators removed the unit but severely damaged the unit in the process. Basically trying to rip out your engine out of your car without taking the mounting bolts and anything connected to off. You'll have the engine eventually, but severely damaged.

True W'Kar 2 could be anything. Considering that it rejected some of the 'improvements' that the unit had and changed a few others, it could be weaker, more powerful or equal to the original. Grend could be killed or become a God or not even bond to him.

My guess if it does bond and he isn't killed then Anubis will be in trouble. W'Kar Grend may not be as powerful as Anubis but will be able to far more and better things than Anubis could ever do. W'Kar Grend could perhaps remove Anubis's own unit from him. It would be a God vs. a sorta-God.

[Juggernought]

Although how he'd get that unit back with the AAR guarding it and Anubis after it as well. Chances are he may not even get it...best outcome in his favor is someone who he could possibly have some influence and control over obtaining the unit. Or never again regain it again.

[McAvoy]

Who knows. Maybe he does activate it and it turns out to be inferior.

Or... it is destroyed.

Or... Kregen take it hide it in a different universe.

Or... Sarah O'Conner bonds with it.

[Artillerus]

is there anyway the original w'kar will bond with the newer unit sna that his original unit will be taken from him or could greg use the new unit to fully repair his own ?

[McAvoy]

1.) There are two W'Kars. One is Anubis and the other is W'Kar in the WG universe. Anubis cannot remove his own because one of the effects of merging with a W'Kar unit True or Reproduction is that it bonds more completely with the host than a Guyver unit. Removing the unit will kill the host. Greg may survive with possibly the use of a Matrix or two.

2.) Greg doesn't like the idea of upgrades. As Allen once put it, it's like putting a sock in your pants to show off a bigger bulge than you really have.

3.) Using another Guyver to repair his own? There is no unit that can actually repair his own unit. Something like a Matrix or two may do the job though. But actually bonding to a unit like a Gigantic unit or equivilant, the answer is look at answer number 2. Also, it could be that the unit is incompatible with existing upgrades. Perhaps the Warrior Upgrade which is just heavily reworked damaged prototype W'Kar unit. It could boost it slightly if possible.

Also Allen once said that the Element itself needs a certain type of energy and how it manages that is far different than let's say a HSL.

[Zoaknight]

Considering what a sadistic monster Anubis is, I'd like to see Omni W'kar be more rational, keep his sarcasm but maybe make him less of a jerk to his friends (has to be a clear difference between the good and the bad). I mean, if the W'kar is regenerating it would be nice to see it heal his damaged mind, maybe show some remorse toward how he treated Ira before (especially when he learns who Alexandra's real mother is). He doesn't have to become all weepy or soft or anything, just less prone to throwing his friends around like rag dolls whenever they say something he doesn't like (he can still be a wise ass of course, and still be BRUTAL to his enemies ).

[McAvoy]

Perhaps. Mostly likely not. The unit screws up his emotions and the easiest ones are the more sadistic ones. That and how he evolves isn't in the most loveable situations either. Always in battle and with everything going against Greg, mentally and physically.

[W'Kar]

Greg fights all the time. It's a never ending struggle against temptation, regret, ambition, and rage. Part of the pre-stories shows Greg in a far different light. He was more intellectual, but not bookie really, and had serious ambitions towards a career and such.

However... it passes quickly. Once merged the unit found it's most efficient methods towards forcing the host into more situations where it could gather excess energy and begin repair procedures. And since the unit is bonded directly to the mind... it pushed him to madness.

Now of course the human mind is capable of dealing with stress. Just not very well when its never-ending. So despite fighting his own delving sanity it wears you down. Top that off with continuous emotional trauma due to high-stress war conditions and you have the perfect ****tail mix for a sociopath, minus the olive.

The fact is that it ain't nice, it ain't pretty, but it works. The Unit isn't going to care about the emotional needs of the host, hell the W'Kar unit barely cares for the physical needs of the host outside of keeping it alive. It's painful, it's wrenching, and its a psychological sledgehammer.