Weltall2 Posted December 17, 2005 Posted December 17, 2005 Okay how much more are we going to have to endure. You know I can't help but think this was done from the inside. In other words we may have to restrict membership. I know I don't run this place. This is just a suggestion. I mean it is one idea, and we have to deal with it soon or else. We will continue to have these problems, and I for one don't want all our hard work lost again because some A-Hole pimpily faced misfit decides it would be fun to hack this site again. You know I am sure I wasn't the only one angry about the destruction of the old board. It wasn't just anger either I felt violated. All our efforts and fellings used and discarded like a cheap gumball. I really detest these hackers and crackers (and personally I don't see much difference,) I am just so angry. I generally feel disgust and contempt for these jerks. Sorry for the diatribe, I just hate the fact there are people out in the world who don't care about the effect of their actions on others. Quote
daveblackeye152 Posted December 17, 2005 Posted December 17, 2005 What makes you think we've been hacked again? I don't see any problems like last time. Oh wait I think I see the problem now. ****! Quote
*zeo Posted December 17, 2005 Posted December 17, 2005 We've fixed it but we got hacked twice today. Unfortunately we could only restore to about two weeks ago so anything since then has been lost. Quote
daveblackeye152 Posted December 18, 2005 Posted December 18, 2005 ARGH! Who's doing it! Come forward now! The nerve of some jerks! Quote
*zeo Posted December 18, 2005 Posted December 18, 2005 And he did it again today Though it's amazing the lack of creativity with these hackers. All he does is wipe the board and put up his callsign. That's about as creative as your local street punk who spray paints his name on a wall for the heck of it. What a total loser. Quote
Weltall2 Posted December 18, 2005 Author Posted December 18, 2005 Again Jesus. Why do we attract these jerks like flypaper? Is it pople who have been kicked off in the past seeking revenge, or is it people who go to popular sites and destroy them for the hell of it. Could it be they are being paid to do this (though I do notsee the finacial gains in destroying a free site geared to a very narrow demographic. Quote
*zeo Posted December 18, 2005 Posted December 18, 2005 Nah, I think it's just some pathetic loser who has nothing better to do than plant their callsigns on as many websites as he/she can. Just to satisfy some egotistical fantasy of theirs that has nothing to do with reality. I once saw this female hacker on a documentary on hackers and her excuse was anyone who can be hacked deserved to be hacked. It's like saying someone who got run over by a drunk driver deserved it. These people must be brain damaged or something. They simply can't think of anyone but themselves, which simply makes them even more pathetic. So don't worry Weltall2, people like that get theirs eventually. You can't escape bad Karma like that. They'll either wind up in jail or something worse by crossing the wrong person at the wrong time. Quote
Weltall2 Posted December 18, 2005 Author Posted December 18, 2005 Anyone that can be hacked deserves it? How would they like it if they'er privacy and their property were violated and destroyed, because someone said 'well it is their fault they didn't think to do this or they didn't do that to prevent me from attacking them'. That is insane. This crap that keeps happening is insane. Though I understand you are not condoning this Zeo, that all you are doing is explaining why this happened. I am just shocked at the callous actions of some people. I think psychologically these people have got to be pretty miserable to have to act in such a manner to get attention, and really the kind of attention they are getting is negative attention. Though the attention they probably want is positive attention, this would be a prime example of how not to get said attention. Though there are people who want attention for attentions sake. Anyway I am just amazed at how this keeps happening as I said this has been happening too frequently over the past year to be just a coincidence. By the way has anyone talked to Mr.Z for advice. in any case something has to be done otherwise we will end up having to rebuild again. And I for one do not want to have that happen again. I trully am still angry about the destruction of the old board as there were a lot of collabrative efforts that I was a part of that arre lost forever. And I think that the newbies that ae coming here deserve better that to have this happen on a continueing basis. Though I do want to make this clear I am not blaming the admins mods or anyone other than the hackers that are responsible. Quote
Guyver XT Posted December 19, 2005 Posted December 19, 2005 Merry Christmas! We're so pleased at the interest you've shown in our not-for-profit little endeavour. I'm sorry that we don't have the funds to provide you with a real challenge, such as hiring a professional security firm to monitor our site and track you down with a much better written lil Christmas lawsuit. I regret that federal and state legislature is not yet adequate for a pair of professionally wrapped christmas handcuffs to also be delivered. Give us time. I'm personally very pleased that we provide such entertainment for you, because you obviously have so little pride in your life and any accomplishments there-in that the only way you can justify your existence is by trashing someone elses things like a teething toddler. My apologies on the poor quality of your life, your lack of imagination in your use of your talents, your obvious deficiency of any sense of morality or class. It is my hope that someday you may be a tiny ounce less pathetic that you currently are. I must admit to being intrigued at the quite interesting psychological amalgam of 4-year old/playground bully/cowardess that you display in picking on a site that has no commercial value, and is really just for fans to have fun social interaction. I'm sure we're a big shiny feather in your cap at the monthly hacker tea party. Congratulations, oh mighty one! Happy Holidays, XT P.S. - Just because you leave a calling card doesn't make you Zorro, or Daredevil or any other shadowy person people secretly look up to. Your accomplishments, if that's what you term them, are transistory, finite, and generally laughable. I'd suggest you look elsewhere for your thrills, but I don't think you have the wit to find anything better to do with your time. So you'll just have to settle with being the plucky little annoyance that splashes our board to get your jollies. Quote
Guest Posted December 19, 2005 Posted December 19, 2005 Ok so thats why my posts and PMs are missing. Quote
largo Posted December 19, 2005 Posted December 19, 2005 Has any one thought to encrypt the sites code so that only those who have access to the board can get in. I know it sounds a little extreme but this is really annoying. Also the person who is doing this is no hacker thire nothing more then ankle bitters. Real hackers, hack stuff for either money or the challenge but this site really isn't that secure of a site so why bother? I think it's because are wanna be is nothing more then an amateur, hack don't make me laugh. Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted December 20, 2005 Posted December 20, 2005 well, the simplest way i can think of is goto a different board service. One that dosen't have these kinda exploits that hackers can use to easily mess with the damn site. Quote
*Jess♥ Posted December 21, 2005 Posted December 21, 2005 I think the best way to deal with it, is to make backups more often, then when it gets hacked just ignore it. If you simply restore the board to a very recent backup ( half a week?) and then everyone is just calm and like "what the heck, i don't care" then they will be gaining nothing by hacking it. soon enough they will just get bored. alls you gotta do is show them that they aren't effecting anything. that what they are doing is pointless and a waste of their time. show them that WE ARE SUPERMAN!! figuratively.... Quote
Warbyrd13 Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 Hackers are dumb. If you want to prank a friend because you have some computer n net skills then go ahead. But these sites are for fans of a subject that they want to discuss. What I personaly like is everyone is soo brave over the keyboard but if i met a few of these people in real life things would be intersting. But then again there is idiots where ever we go. Quote
Thunder Demon1472669266 Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 I think the best way to deal with it,is to make backups more often, then when it gets hacked just ignore it. If you simply restore the board to a very recent backup ( half a week?) and then everyone is just calm and like "what the heck, i don't care" then they will be gaining nothing by hacking it. In other words, backing up the files what, weekly? Semi-Weekly? Not any less often than bi-weekly for sure. If we follow thorugh with any suggestions, lots of hurdles will be present. Mostly monetary and time issues. The latter can be delegated to programs and such. Still, it is worrisome that people do this. Perhaps the best answer comes from the simplest question? I'm pretty sure it just isn't here. Many sites get 'hacked' though in some cases, with like ours, it's more idiotic and annoying than it is damaging. And that's not saying anything about their egos that either were hurt, or they just have a really big ego that needs inflating. Curiously, perhaps two of the most hacked places, or at least attempted hacks, are the US Government and Microsoft. The former for more obvious military reasons, and the latter as most people get really annoyed with Mircosoft. Though an expert hacker wouldn't leave a calling card, would he? Especially one that's traceable. Anyway, I'll be more worried if this becomes a regular event, even then, it'll be mere annoyance and inconvience than anything else. C'mon, you've heard of ants, right? (Who wouldn't?) They're an annoyance and inconvience. Just like maggots. Still, things certainly are more curiouser now than they were prior to the first incident, no? Quote
Matt Bellamy Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 In other words, backing up the files what, weekly? Semi-Weekly? Not any less often than bi-weekly for sure. Well, actually, I have been doing a back up pretty much 3 times a day recently. - When I get home from work ( about 8 am) - When I get up from bed ( 4pm - 6pm) - Before I go to work (11pm-ish) If I make it a habit, it won't be such a big deal. And since PHPBB2 makes it really easy, it's not that bad. Quote
*Jess♥ Posted December 25, 2005 Posted December 25, 2005 yeah guyverboard is backed up at least 2 or 3 times a week. It may not be needed but it only takes a minute or so to do. it also only takes a couple of minutes and a weak point to lose it all. *shrugs* I think its worth those couple of minutes a couple of times a week. Quote
*zeo Posted December 27, 2005 Posted December 27, 2005 We got hacked again today so anyone who had a post in the last 24 hours please resummit. Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted December 27, 2005 Posted December 27, 2005 Hehm I saw that this morning.... you can tell these people got no life if all they do is hack the same place over and over, and now for minimal damage. Quote
Thunder Demon1472669266 Posted December 29, 2005 Posted December 29, 2005 Getting hacked again? Well, you could let the hacker aquire a virus as he hacks... If it's possible. I wonder if you could put a ridiculously strong firewall. Custom made that is. Anway, that means I got to go and figure out what I sent in yesterday... Quote
Matt Bellamy Posted December 29, 2005 Posted December 29, 2005 My guess is that one hacker put the url to our site on some hacker site, and now just about everyone comes and messes with our board. We'll be undergoing a server move sometime in the near future, and we are thinking of maybe trying another kind of message board, or at the very least, trying to get this one working properly. But we shall see. Quote
largo Posted December 30, 2005 Posted December 30, 2005 Thunder we could embed a trojin horse in the sites code and have it activte only when some one access other then Matt and the others but that would actualy be rather easy to do. Now that I think about it I could come up with just the virus in o lets say 2-3 weeks? But there is always that ever present problem with virus' they sometimes evolve or go out of control. We could also but a tracer in the code so that we track down any one who tries/does hack the board. Heck I could even do a worm but most of these ideas could get quite a few people in trouble. Lets just say that I've done the tango once or twice with the Federal Bureo of I hate your frek'n guts or FBI but that was 2 years ago and lets just say that $2000 fine and 6 months of prole and having my computer put in a trash dump was enough to get me to stop my virus creating days. But for the board I would be willing to put up with the whole ankle box thing. (Man does that thing itch.) Quote
Matt Bellamy Posted December 31, 2005 Posted December 31, 2005 No, we won't be doing anything like that. As bad as the hacking is, and as much as I like revenge... I do NOT likes Viruses. In both getting them, and using them. Our best bets at this point is to try and get some newer security measures put into place when we do the server move. But no revenge. As much as I would like to. Quote
Thunder Demon1472669266 Posted January 1, 2006 Posted January 1, 2006 Ah, well, there goes my fun. But seriously, on a more serious note (ha ha), would security software do the trick? Quote
*Jess♥ Posted January 1, 2006 Posted January 1, 2006 security software would have to be encoded into the forum so as to allow registered members do the things that are normally required. basically, this forum software has security holes. the only people who can fix them are the people who developed the software, or programmers who are proficient in making mods for it. from past experience, I know that the simple matter of installling a mod can take many many hours and that's even if one exists for that purpose. I am assuming that matt or zeo have already looked for this type of thing. seeing that no mod has been istalled to that effect, I would gues that it does not exist. any other type of firewall or other software would simply prevent all of us from posting. ............. edit... I just looked on the phpbb website. guys, have you considered upgrading to the latest version? they have version 2.0.19 out now. If the hacking was actually caused by that internet worm, then perhaps that will completely fix the problem? from what I remember, upgrading to a later version doesn't usually cause too many difficulties. Quote
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