Why rewrite the fanfiction?

[guyverfanatic]

I am curious, why did you guys decide to rewrite the Warrior Guyver fanfiction?

[Guyver XT]

Fair question, Guyverfanatic.

I don't think there is any one good answer to that question, so I have a bunch of little ones.

We received new info about the capabilities of the Gigantic that threw a lot of what we had done out of whack.

Some of us looked back at the original stories and winced.

There was a general feeling that 'man it'd be nice to redo this or that.'

Finally we started discussing it seriously and came up with the idea of using the original fics, in all their seperate stories as a template for one definitive addition that would work to shore up plot holes and turn the seperate 'scripts' into a more complete, better quality fiction.

It's a big undertaking, but we're all masochists to one degree or another I think. Such is the life of a fan(atic).

[largo]

I'm glad you guys decided to rewrite and all, but at the same time I'm wondering that you guys are doing this only because your all out of ideas, look I not ranting at you guys because I'm doing the same thing.

Now this idea is hypothetical just mear speculation but you know some where in this twisted mind of mine but a lot of the orginal writers are wanting to quit writing and are using this hole rewriting and combining of all the fan-fics as a way to quit writing quietly and have the writers that want to contenue writing pick up the other writers stories well that's just entirelly speculation I don't know if it's true just throwing the idea out there.

[McAvoy]

Perhaps. But I'm sure the writers that are slowing down can use the older fanfics even while Chronicles is being written. So we might see a Part 6 for 7 Days of Hell, or a Part 3 for the Angel fanfic as well.

[Matt Bellamy]

Oh believe me, we aren't out of ideas. That is the very least of our concerns.

However, we are all pretty much in a rut. When the past of your fic is such a mess, and you still want to move on, it's hard to look back at some events to use for reference and see how badly they needed a rewrite. With writers that matured over time, writing styles that drastically changed... eventually it had to happen.

[McAvoy]

Wouldn't have been easier to just update the older fics periodically anyway? Like Sully did with Union of the Guyvers and part of Time War? I mean the stuff that's in Chronicles could actually replace the current old fanfic with no consequences. Then later on, such as the figures for the Gigantic Guyver be fixed as needed.

[*zeo]

Periodically updating the older fics? Into anything resembling Chronicles. . . Nope, just too many changes. It may be easier perhaps but it wouldn't result in the same quality as we're doing for Chronicles.

Chronicles is really quite different, it also will combine the different branches of the fic into one single coherant story.

And replacing the older fics would have consequences since Chronicles is being done very differently from all previous encarnations fics.

Besides all things worth while require at least some effort.

[exscaped_pyscho]

I think what everyone's true fears are that you writers will burn out with this massive undertaking of a site wide rewrite. I know Allen,and Sully's departure or planed future departure has shaken all of us and we fear the inenvitable end. If taking another 'easier' coarse of action would relieve strain and alow a longer story line I say 'Take the easy road and long live the Fan Fic' However I can see your point as to needing touch ups in various stories and more character development here and there.

Ultimatley I hope that by undertaking such a task unto youselves that it doesn't hurt the overall contentiety or shorten the life span of the Site.

LONG LIVE THE WARRIOR GUYVER FAN FICTION!!!!!!

[Guyver XT]

I think what everyone's true fears are that you writers will burn out with this massive undertaking of a site wide rewrite.

That's a very insightful point. The flip side is that we're rebuilding the foundation of the fics from a standpoint that will provide a much stronger grounding for the future stories. 'Sides, as long as I get positive reinforcement that the experience is enjoyable, I'll prolly keep churning these things out for years.

I know Allen,and Sully's departure or planed future departure has shaken all of us and we fear the inenvitable end.

There will be an end at some point. I think I speak for all of us when I say that we don't intend for it to be any time soon. But looking at it honestly, if my writing abilities lead me to something that will pay my bills and put food on my table, I may eventually have to bow out in order to pursue it. Until then, this is excellent 'practice' in honing my skills.

So I think you can rest easy. The rewrite should pull more activity then before, hopefully introduce more people to Jason and crew, and prolong the life of the site, not the reverse. Just as long as I can get the chapters out in something resembling a reasonable rate.

[Thunder Demon1472669266]

So, in other words, the work prior that was due to speculation and conjecture was thrown out the window for a lack of a better phrase, and that you wanted to correct this, yet it still won't answer all of the questions, but you wanted to keep it as accurate as possible. In addition, you still wanted to have a little fun and freedom with a few concepts. Is that right?

If it is, it certainly is an interesting notion, though even after he is done with the story (which I doubt will ever be the case), there will still be a lot of room of freedom of differentiation and deviation, as well as conjectures and hypothesis that are needed to be tested.

And, as it is with all things made and born, so too must they die or be destroyed. It is a matter of when, not if. As long as one enjoys what has been, what is, and what is to come, then ideas will always flow. Archiving the old stories was asmart move.

Many things are a matter of when, and not if. Going and doing great things for our species is in itself a matter of when and not if. But, if they see fit to keep going, and with support, it may be a very long time before it ends. Patience, Support and Constructive Criticism is key. Patience for updates, support and positiveness for the project of rewriting the story (which I'm not sure I could or would want to do), and constructive criticism for potential problems that are seen and can be corrected, or modified, or even elaborated. It is not a simple project to undergo. It wasn't a a simple project to begin. Even the most skilled progammers, engineers, pilots, politicians, and all skilled professionals will at some point require help in their endeavor. Writers too. We all have our faults, our strengths, our needs, our excesses, and our desires. We each can lend a helpinghand to make things go smoother, even if it's being patient for another part to an ever expanding, ever growing, never ceasing story that ini itself evolves and drives itself to an unimagineable level.

So, you have my support, and my help shold you require it at any time. I apologize if any bit has been cryptic or misleading. The second is unintentional, and the first is my way of saying certain...things that need to be said carefully. It is not meant to confuse or to seem ****y, or arrogant. We are what we are, even if it is at the bottom of the long chain. But, even a newbie has an important role to play.

[exscaped_pyscho]

If doing a major rewrite helps ground the stories more and exstends the life of the Warrior Guyver stories then I'm all for it!!! Thank you for the responce XT. Don't supose that a tid bit of inside info would be possible like who that freaking cloaked man is

However I've enjoyed the rewrites considerably and look forward to more.

[Guyver XT]

Don't supose that a tid bit of inside info would be possible like who that freaking cloaked man is.

You know what the usual answer is to these type of questions. Wait for it... wait for it....

No Comment

[exscaped_pyscho]

You know what the usual answer is to these type of questions. Wait for it... wait for it.... No Comment

DOH!!!! Oh well it was worth a shot.

I do have a qeustion though. Since The Union story was changed does that mean that the other stories will have different out comes now? IE Jason's merging with the Matrix and becoming Dreadnought. Seeing as the standard Guyvers now seem so powerful compared to how they where portrayed before, will the story lign still result in Dreadnought; A being that could destroy any known foe in the Universe one-on-one?

[*zeo]

You tell me

Poor Dreadnought, he's so misunderstood.

Btw, except for the Gigantic we aren't really portraying the Guyvers as being any more powerful than before. Everything shown so far matches up to what has been shown in the Manga.

Like the fight with Zerebubuth, inexperienced Sean got badly beaten but experienced Sho handedly defeated Zerebubuth. The cracking of its armor did happen in the Manga, by G1 no less, so we know a Guyver is capable of doing that when they go full out.

[Guyver XT]

Seeing as the standard Guyvers now seem so powerful compared to how they where portrayed before, will the story lign still result in Dreadnought; A being that could destroy any known foe in the Universe one-on-one?

Zeo is correct, we haven't shown the guyvers as being any more powerful then they were before. But we are doing a better job of showing exactly what they can do.

So far as Dreadnought and our other future power-houses, we have our eyes on them, and one of my goals is a little 'play-balancing'. Can't give details and as a general rule, I'm probably not going to alter their power levels, but probably try to give them more draw-backs in one way or another.

[largo]

Finally, the rise of the Standereds is apon us.

[TheGuyversWill]

You must admit though, since the introduction of just the idea of the chronicles, the rest of the writers have become relaxed. Someone else is doing their work for them, and better than they could quite possibly pull off (Brian, Matt, James, you have to agree with me here, Mike just blows most writers out of the water, we all bow to Mike). What’s the point of continuing on?

The only thing I fear is that we'll never see seven days finished up. I mean I know Brian said he stepped down and what have you, but he's still out there! I still see him on messengers! he even post over here from time to time. And damnit, he said that wasn’t the end of seven days in hell! yet its been over a year! over a year and still we have yet to see another part of this.

I already know this story, I've read every last chapter three or four times, I've been hooked on this stuff since 98, and while a rewrite is nice, this is a fan fiction. Look back at south park! I'm not sure if you guys are big fans of south park, but they had an episode where they highlighted the fact that directors shouldn’t be able to change their old films (IE add new and improved special effects, or change scenes because it didn’t come out the way they wanted it 20 years ago). once these things hit the internet and people start reading them, they aren’t just yours anymore. The entire fan base has partial ownership. The story becomes part of us, and the fun of the fiction in the first place is that it doesn’t have to fit into normal guyver concepts. If that were the case you wouldn’t have more than three guyvers to start with (4 my bad... my bad).

My point is, the fun of the fan fictions is that they aren’t the manga, they are as far removed from the manga as one can get. They only have a few key characters that are direct copies, and by this time even those characters have been changed much by events, that they are no longer those characters we learned to love from the manga, they are warrior guyver sho, and warrior guyver agito. Instead of clearing up all these cute little facts, like how the first Guyver Zoalord just wasn’t as strong as he should be, we should be seeing a new beefed up version come and pound the living hell out of Jason and his comrades. Instead of going back and rewriting the power and strength of the Gigantic Guyver, why not just add a line here or there from Sho saying "Damn dude, I never knew this ****ing thing had such a kick, seems I wasn’t using it to its full potential."

I know, I'm ranting, but damnit, I want to see Jason save the world again, and not just a rehash of how he did it before!

Peace,

Will

[*zeo]

Yes, Mike is an excellent writer. But he's not the reason there hasn't been an update. Frankly we've all been busy with our own real life stuff.

So sorry but these things can take quite a while sometimes.

[McAvoy]

My point is, the fun of the fan fictions is that they aren’t the manga, they are as far removed from the manga as one can get. They only have a few key characters that are direct copies, and by this time even those characters have been changed much by events, that they are no longer those characters we learned to love from the manga, they are warrior guyver sho, and warrior guyver agito. Instead of clearing up all these cute little facts, like how the first Guyver Zoalord just wasn’t as strong as he should be, we should be seeing a new beefed up version come and pound the living hell out of Jason and his comrades. Instead of going back and rewriting the power and strength of the Gigantic Guyver, why not just add a line here or there from Sho saying "Damn dude, I never knew this ****ing thing had such a kick, seems I wasn’t using it to its full potential."

Trust me I opposed it as well. But look at the old estimates vs. the new ones for the Gigantic. The Gigantic ncan be anywhere between 5x to 20x for all we know and the Giga smashers are 100x. That's more powerful than Dreadnought's, unless he Power Boosts.

Basically you would have the Gigantic being far more powerful than before. Also, the Warrior Gigantics like Zeus and Dreadnought would have to be increased as well.

I think it should just be easier to either reboot the series or do extensive rewrites to the existing stories.

[largo]

Well I guess that would make Dreadnought and W'kar about even huh?

[*zeo]

Not really, remember W'Kar is still getting more powerful and Anubis is not even the final evolution for him.

[McAvoy]

Well, Dreadnought is about equal to W'Kar now. But he's supposed to get stronger in the WG.com universe and Anubis isn't the final stage. Allen even stated that a full powered W'Kar would be equal to 4,000x.

The only way Dreadnought acheieve that level of power is if he becomes a zoalord.

[largo]

Wait a sec. Anubis is not the final form of the W'kar?

[*zeo]

Nope, still a few to go, the reason he's enslaving the whole universe is because he needs more energy to evolve to his next stage.

Though he's not even suppose to exist if you really get technical about it. He's an unexpected evolution mutation of what W'Kar was suppose to become.

Remember Allen already stated what a fully healed W'Kar's power level would be and Anubis isn't there yet.

[McAvoy]

Actually the WG.com W'Kar also is ready to go to the next evolution which would be number four. That's the same as Anubis. But WG W'Kar will only be 25x now where near as powerful as Anubis. Anubis at his base strength is the power of a Guyver Zoalord.