Several questions regarding the guyver weaponry

[Larz Zahn]

Me and my cousin play a lot of games. rpg and heroclix and such.

So we wanted to add the Guyver into certain Games and we came up with a few questions and a few brain teasers. at least for me. We got the basics mostly covered but when how his powers worked it came up with a few problems during gameplay.

so my first question is this...

His sonic busters.

Are they similar to the powers of the mutant banshee? The Manga showed he can use it to atomize targets by resonating to their resistant frequencies, and it showed him using it as a means to escape by letting out a distorting pulse. like a really high pitched wail. Ok, now in the new series it went a step further. When Noskov and Myumelzee blanketed the entire area around them with resonating sound waves practically stopping all vibrations in the air. Guyver used his sonic busters to reverse its effects so that got me wondering what the limit of that power is. Is it virtually the same as banshees sound control?

I got alot more quesions too but i"ll wait till this one gets answered tho. haha thanks in advance for everyones help who helps!!

[*zeo]

I would say both yes and no, the Banshee uses sonics but has an incredible range of control that goes far beyond what would be practical with just using sound as a weapon. Like using sonics to fly, etc.

The Guyver Sonic Busters I would say, from my understanding of sound physics, is just basically a controlled level use of sonic white noise. Meaning they produce vibrations across the whole spetrum of sound and at high enough intensity to induce vaporization/atomization.

Basically white noise is similar to white light in that it is the sum total of the whole spectrum, so when you hear someone is using a white noise generator the reason is because they want to test out something being exposed to all possible frequencies. Like to find the frequency of resonance of a particular object you can use white noise and see which frequency you get feedback from instead of testing each frequency individually.

A white noise weapon would thus be effective against all objects, it'll just use more energy to cover all those frequencies. Frequency tuning is thus more efficient but unless you are after only a specific target then it is not always practical.

Like the scene in which Gigantic Dark uses the Sonic Busters on Imakarum destroyed not only a few of Imakarum's horns but also the tower structure far behind Imakarum. If the sonics had been tuned just to Imakarum then they wouldn't have been as effective on the tower, which would have had a different resonance frequency.

Sonic atomization is actually commonly used to turn a liquid into a spray, http://www.daintreescientific.com.au/ext_s...g_Atomizers.htm , scaled up and vastly increase in power and we can see how it could be possible to atomize something on a much larger scale. It'll just take enormous energy to pull it off but the Guyver is incredibly powerful and such energy levels appear to be within its capabilities.

The physics breakdown of sonic weapons are that they are based on sound waves, which in turn break down to shock waves traveling through the air. Just like a shock wave from a bomb blast they are just waves of kinetic energy, except in a sound weapon you would get a series of such shock waves that either work off each other, as in resonance, or just accumulative in effect.

Basically sound energy is absorbed just like any other form of kinetic energy. But with either resonance or accumulation you would cause an object to increase in molecular vibration as it absorbs more and more kinetic energy.

Simple physics dictate that if you introduce energy at a faster rate than it can be absorbed then the material will absorb the energy as heat, so as you ramp up the amount of energy you send to the target you will eventually cause the molecular vibrations to increase to the point that the material will break down and vibrate apart. AKA Atomize.

For example with some ultrasound devices you can cause the surface of a water to evaporate but not heat the rest of the body of water, basically cold steam, the sonic energy just transfers energy faster than the water can absorb it so the surface transitions to steam without the normal accumulative heating normally involved. Keep that effect going and you will eventually turn all the water into steam.

This could be why the sonic busters can be very localized in their effect, like when G1 used it to blow off Aptom's forearm from the elbow when they first fought. Or when G1 used the sonic busters to drill through a wall by just limiting its power so he didn't just blast all the way through.

Some samples of real sonic weapons for comparison...

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn1564

http://www.defense-update.com/products/v/vortex-ring.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4418748.stm

The Noskov and Myumelzee generated zone of stopping all vibration in the air can be basically an example of noice cancellation, sound waves of the same frequency can cancel each other out, on a massive scale. As I see it they basically just created countering sound waves that blanketed the area and together countered the propagation of all sound. Tetsuro's glasses cracking at the edge of the field is I think proof of this.

In turn I see it that G1 just generated a powerful enough sonic blast that disrupted that field and then went on to atomize both zoanoids. Since sonics breaks down to kinetic energy and superior kinetic energy will of course win.

That's how I see it anyway.

[Larz Zahn]

Yeah i get the basics behind it, i was just wondering the extent of a guyvers control over the sonic busters. So your basically saying its a super advanced white noise weapon. Gotcha.

Would it be possible for a Guyver to use the Busters to speak on a particular frequency? An example of what im asking would be if the zeus thunerbolts were using a radio during combat would Guyver 3 be able to match the frequency with his buster and speak to them. I know that it would be encrypted anyhow but im just curious if it could happen.

I was thinking that if it was like banshee then he would be able to do similar stunts like using sonics to use a form of audible hypnotism. But from what u were telling me then it doesnt sound like it. thanks man.

[*zeo]

Hmm, technically yes as the nature of the sonic orbs is to produce sound and a white noise blast means it can do so over all frequencies.

But mimicking someone else's voice may not be possible unless the host can train their mind to make the unit reproduce the same vocal patterns. Cause right now the emitters just project the host vocal patterns... Though this is straight from the host mind since the Guyver removes the vocal cords when it bonds.

[Larz Zahn]

I was under the impression that the orbs that gave a Guyver the ability to talk. That the sonic orbs gave a Guyver his/her voice. I think it was in a datafile... dangit daniel... curse u and ur horrid memory issues.

[*zeo]

Yes, like I said, the orbs reproduce the host vocal patterns. The host doesn't have vocal cords with the unit on and doesn't breath the same way. So all sound can only be produced by the sonic emitters.

Since the voice isn't being generated by a physical voice box (vocal cords, etc) then the pattern is being derived from the host mind. Meaning it is technically possible to produce other voice patterns, it's just not what the human mind is normally geared to do. But since the sonic emitters are basically super advance speakers it would be technically possible just like it is possible to play any sort of sound over a speaker system.

Though this is why the Guyver Voice sounds like he's talking through a speaker in the anime.

[Larz Zahn]

Ok but the orbs will only reproduce the hosts voice and not any other form of sound?

I dont mean a Guyver imitating anothers voice im more curious if he\she could reproduce the hypnotic sound waves from the fourth episode from the new anime. And this should be my last question of the sonic buster.

next topic....

HIGH FREQUENCY BLADES PEOPLE!!

[*zeo]

It's the host mind using the sonic orbs, and a human mind isn't really set to mimic sound patterns precisely. Unless of course the CM does the mimicking, but this is basically an unknown. All we know for sure is the host can use them to talk and as a weapon. Anything else would either require years of practice or is not one of the Guyver's abilities. It's just technically possible given the nature of the sonic orbs.

The data files basically describe the Vibrational Swords as specialized Bio-Armor that vibrate at high frequency, producing a shock wave that breaks apart the molecular bonds of any matter the swords are used on.

A comparison would be the common bull whip, the tip is accelerated to super sonic speed. The cracking noise it makes is the tip breaking the sound barrier and the damage it does is because the tip is enveloped in the shock wave and is how an otherwise soft/dull material can cut through flesh like a knife.

Also the shock waves released when two vibrational swords clash is probably just a tiny fraction of the kinetic energy the swords are directing and focusing at the blade edge of the swords. Since only the blade edge only came in contact in that scene and that represented only a tiny fraction of the surface area of the swords.

P.S.> Something of possible interest in the field of mind control by one life form over another (like how Zoalords can control Zoanoids), http://io9.com/5015317/a-parasite-that-ind...ove-in-its-host

[Larz Zahn]

Dont worry about the basics dude. I pretty much know them. I just wanted to discuss what exacty it can and cannot cut thru. the data files states that the blades can cut thru almost anything. So there are items and materials it can not slice. Since the blades function is by vibrating at an ultra high frequency it basically seperates what ever it comes into contact with on a molecular level. So there would be a chance that materials that have a very dense molecular structure wouldnt be destroyed in this manner right? Or more technically it would take more effort and more time, essentially chopping away at it.

If two frequency swords make contact then they wouldnt do anything to each other because of the conflicting ultra frequencies. basically they resonate against each other and cancel each other out, that is what imo causes that high pitch squeal when g1 and thancrus fought.

so... Im asking would super dense materials, such as supermetals such as adamantium and vibranium be affected.

heres my opinion and im very much open to discuss the whys and whynots so please feel free.

Adamantium, i do think they can cut through it. Now the metal is indestructable because of its "stable molecular structure" i wiki'd that. i translate that as to saying its dense dense dense. It is my lil theory that because of this dense structure that adamantium would get... nicked every time a hfb touches it. So over time and a lot of whacking it can be cut through.

I remember in the cartoon xmen that wolverine slashed at a adamantium door it was scratched. so it can be damaged albeit slow and difficult.

Vibranium... Like u said in the other thread it absorbs all forms of energy and it is the toughest known element in the marvel universe with adamantium being a very very close second. So unless its possibe that vibranium has a... limit or threshold of just how much vibrations it can take(i find it unlikely tho) then this metal wouldnt be effected by the hfb or even the sonic busters.

ok then, my fingers are getting cramps, what do ya think?

[*zeo]

Well let's start by looking at real world ultrasonic vibrational tools.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3774659.html

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/...00414081101.htm

http://ndeaa.jpl.nasa.gov/nasa-nde/usdc/usdc.htm

Those devices though are a fraction of the power of a Guyver vibrational sword, which as I understand it has such a high oscillating frequency that it produces a continuous sonic boom like shock wave at the blade edge. Effectively giving the sword a kinetic energy blade on top of the vibrational sword blade edge. This is probably why it can slice through any known material like it was slicing through air.

Add a guess estimate that the Bio-Armor material is about 20 times stronger than steel probably means the Guyver Swords will definitely put Adamantium to the test.

However the stable molecular structure reference wasn't about density (like liquid metal molecular structure makes it twice as strong as Titanium but isn't denser), otherwise Wolverine would weigh a lot more (probably need something close to Neutron Star density to equal Adamantium's durability by density alone), but rather the arrangement of its molecules. Like a diamond, which has a crystalline molecular structure that works off itself to give the material its inherent hardness and durability.

Adamantium can be basically seen as a diamond version of metal, retaining the properties of metal but having a molecular structure that makes it extremely hard just like a diamond.

So it breaks down to how easily it's molecular bonds and structure can be changed by kinetic energy alone, but considering how durable Adamantium is I do not believe the Guyver Swords have the required energy. (Even though I've calculated the energy of the Guyver weapons to be pretty high, 1 ton of TNT worth of energy for the head beam alone as that's the amount of energy needed to vaporize a bullet in mid flight in a tiny fraction of a second)

However if the swords can match the resonance frequency of the Adamantium, something that may happen from prolonged contact (I theorize that the swords may also be generating white noise vibrational frequencies that help it lock to the resonance frequency of the target material), then it may be possible for them to slowly crack the Adamantium, which is probably how Death's Head II managed to break one of Logan's claws.

Also unlike the rest of his body the Adamantium in Wolverine's body doesn't regenerate, but the Guyver's Vibrational Swords do. Meaning wear and tear advantage would go to the Vibrational Swords, especially over a prolonged battle.

The Guyver also has the advantage of Strength, so unless the Adamantium claws can break the Vibrational Swords then it could break down to just a matter of time.

[Larz Zahn]

Wolverine adamantium skeletal structure weighs in excess of 100 pounds of beta adamantium. It lists Wolverine vol 2. issue #57 as a reference for how much he weighs. Hense i assumed the density. and as for the strength part.. just a sec I'll just post the wiki part.

Due to his healing factor's constant regenerative qualities, he can push his muscles beyond the limits of the human body without injury.[30] This, coupled by the constant demand placed on his muscles by over one hundred pounds of adamantium,[31] grants him some degree of superhuman strength. Since the presence of the adamantium negates the natural structural limits of his bones, he can lift or move weight that would otherwise damage a human skeleton.[32] He is strong enough to break steel chains[33][34] and lift a dozen men above his head with one arm and throw them through a wall.[35]

So according to this he may have the brute strength needed to break a regular Guyver blade, well... possibly. guyvers still way stronger but wolverine does have some strength of his own, not to mention that the added weight in his arms give his slices and punches all the more kenetic energy just thru his momentum coupled with his own strength.

Heres the low down on beta adamantium, since its not the original.

True adamantium

True adamantium is created through the mixing of certain chemical resins (defined only as "three closely related iron compounds") whose composition is classified as a highest possible level U.S. government top secret, although it has been said that the U.S. has shared the secret of adamantium's creation process with "certain of its allies". This process is almost prohibitively expensive and True adamantium is very rare as a result. True Adamantium is nearly as strong as Captain America's shield and is, for all practical purposes, indestructible. Adamantium's durability is somewhat dependent on its thickness. For example, a sufficient amount can survive a direct hit from a nuclear weapon.[1

Adamantium beta

Adamantium beta is a new metal created as a side-effect of the process of bonding True adamantium to Wolverine's bones. His Healing Factor not only allowed him to survive the process, but also induced a molecular change in the metal. Adamantium beta functions identically to True adamantium, but it does not inhibit the biological processes of bone. Adamantium beta was first explained in Wolverine (vol.2) #80 (1994).

So beta is in all intents and purpose just like true adamantium but it allows the bone to grow. But like zeo said it doesnt grow back if damaged, it sounds like that it.... stretches a little to allow the bone growth.

It does say that its durability is dependant "somewhat" i wanna stress the somewhat, on its thickness. It could be saying that a little more thick like millimeter thicker could make it a whole lot more resistant?

so would a hfb be able to pentrate the same amount that would survive a nuke? Using the slice and dice theory?

Edited June 12, 2008 by Larz Zahn

[*zeo]

Possibly, this breaks down to energy concentration. A Nuke spreads its energy all over, and releases more than one type of energy, but the Guyver weapons focus energy very efficiently.

The head beam for example has been revealed in the VDF to draw its power from the internal body heat of the Guyver, focusing its energy into a powerful infrared laser. So it really is a heat vent but is so efficient it can be used as a weapon.

But this gives some idea of how much energy is flowing inside the Guyver to generate that much heat energy. The Mega Smashers I've calculated a conservative estimate of being equivalent to the energy release of an atomic bomb, or about 10 kilotons of TNT per smasher cell. But unlike a nuke all that energy is channeled in one direction.

Similarly the vibrational swords would focus all their energy to the blade's edge, so the concentration of kinetic energy would be extremely high. But considering how tough Adamantium is suppose to be, it'll probably take some resonaunce for the vibrational swords to do any real damage.

As for the weight, a stone or metal stature of a person can weigh over 500 pounds. 100 pounds isn't really super dense for metal and durability isn't always determined by density.

Take bucky paper, a material based on carbon nanotubes, which is 1/10 the weight of steel and 250x stronger. If they ever figure a way to bond that stuff to bone then we may have some real life Adamantium :wink:

DARPA already has the rights to a laser based process of bonding metal to bone without heating surrounding tissue.

[Larz Zahn]

The Darpa thing just sounds nasty.

The weight thing, those statues are pure metal of the entire body? Not just A thin layer that covers the surface area of a short mans skeleton?

im not sure but it sounded like you said the entire statue weighed about 500, meaning the whole molding was stone or metal top to bottom. I might of misunderstood ya.

im sure if you take the same amount of adamantium from wolverines body, and have it in liquid form in a bucket, ther wouldnt be that much metal, maybe about mid shin height. bones arent that big and just covering the surface with say a milimeter wont take that much material at all.

[*zeo]

Metals are pretty dense to begin with, here's a link comparing the densities of different metals.

http://www.coolmagnetman.com/magconda.htm

Gold for example is about 19.32x denser than water but it's a soft metal.

Longer list, http://www.simetric.co.uk/si_metals.htm

While human bones consist about 20% of your body weight, Wolverine weighs about 195 pounds without the Adamantium. So his skeleton weighs about 10 pounds (bone claws probably help round it off)

Your jaw bone has a density of about 1.85x that of water. But your bones aren't just solid material, there's marrow and the structure of the bone fibers that make up your bone. Meaning there's some space in there.

Conversely a pure metal coating would be naturally denser and wouldn't take much to really add weight.

Adamantium is a dense metal but it's not super dense and doesn't derive all its durability from just its density, which was what I was trying to say. If you wanted to create something as hard as Adamantium from just density then you would need something weighing tons to make any other known metal that tough. But Adamantium is really an alloy and derives most of its strength from its molecular structure.

As for strength, Wolverine isn't really super strong. The Adamantium just lets him use peak human strength without worry of hurting himself. So can bench 800 pounds. The Guyver is closer to 40 tons using the same scale.

The Adamantium does give him more momentum in his attacks but the vibrational shock wave the swords produce would absorb at least some of that impact energy, leaving just sword to claw pressure as they clash.

That's how I see it anyway.

[Larz Zahn]

Lol. man... my head hurts when i try to read your replys. your too smart for me dude, any chance on... stupidfying your answeres any? Ok you got me sold on the adamantium thing.

Do you have a theory on how a hfb would react to a lightsaber?

[*Jess♥]

I think that should be compared to when purgstal shot off the gigantic guyvers high frequency swords.

light saber is not made of matter so the hf swords have nothing to cut.

[*zeo]

Yup, Ryuki is right, though a light saber won't burn through all materials instantly (we've seen them have trouble with certain thick armored doors for example) it still breaks down to energy sword versus physical matter sword and the HFB will lose that battle.

In a three way Adamantium would handle the light saber better than the HFB, since Adamantium can withstand intense heat, thus it would be highly resistant to raw energy.

Like Ultron's bragging of being able to survive within the core of a Star, etc. versus Guyver Bio-Armor, which though very heat resistant too can't survive those kind of temperatures.

[Larz Zahn]

I read alot of starwars books so i know of a few materials that can withstand a saber, first is cortosis, it aggrevated me in kotor when they used a cortosis weave in everyday vibroblades. Not cause of the vibroblades but because when luke and mara came across the stuff in.... spector of visions past?? its the one with thrawns clone, anyways... the cave entrance was covered with the mineral and it didnt just stop the blade, it shorted it out. they had to keep turning the hilt back on.

ok, more relevent example,

The amphistaffs of the race Yuthan Vong, (forgive my crappy spelling) can go toe to toe with a lightsaber, and the staffs are alive, i dont have a clue as to how it can withstand the blade it just does, so that was what made me wonder if a hfb could withstand one too.

and for any who cares, im not a big fan of new jedi order, its not as good as the older books.

[*zeo]

Star Destroyer is a good website to look up just how powerful Star War weapons are. Many of the materials used in Star Wars would give Adamantium a run for its money.

Like they got stuff that is similarly rare like Adamantium but can withstand even the destruction of a planet. A data cube was protected with just a coating of the stuff and was perfectly fine after the Death Star had blown the planet up in Star Wars Battle Front video game.

The Guyver Bio-Armor is tough but not that tough. But as you pointed out Light Sabers would have problems with such incredibly durable materials and thus Adamantium would stand a better chance against a Light Saber than HFB, at least a Guyver HFB.

Light Sabers do interact physically with matter, the same way they can interact with each other without going right through each other by whatever energy field helps contain the energy of the LS. So that living weapon you mentioned may just generate a energy field that prevents contact with the Light Saber by repelling it. And/or it may be composed of elements the LS would have trouble with.

[Larz Zahn]

aaahhh gotcha. cool.

and i think the strongest material is quantum armor.

it was developed in the jedi academy triology when kyp stole the sun crusher and began nukin solar systems.

it could survive direct hits from the death star laser and it can withstand the intense gravity of gas planets and i think even a black hole.

Any way back to guyver.

and todays topic is...........

Pressure cannon!!!!

ok... basics of the pc, its gravity compressed upon it self in a sphere correct? basically a miniture black hole?

[*zeo]

Depends who you ask, according to the VDF translation it is described as a sort of compressed virtual black hole that evaporates on its way to the target and produces the shock wave that gives the Pressure Cannon its name.

But according to the booklet for the new Anime it seems to be described more like a worm hole that collapses and produces a shock wave directed upon the target.

Both descriptions are technically valid for a gravity weapon but the way the Pressure Cannon has been shown in the Manga suggest to me that it is the former rather than the later, but that's just my opinion.

[Larz Zahn]

Alrighty. I was actually partial to the black hole explanation my self. ok heres my many questions on this one.

How strong is the pressure cannon, we see extoles armor withstand it. Im under the impression that adamantium and obviously vibranium can with stand it. and the sheild from Powered Zerebubuth can block it. Is there a limit on what it can absorb? like up too a certain material strength? im goin on the theory that the said examples where so tough that it could physically resist the gravitational vortex of the pressure cannon. lemme explain

its my opinion that the globe itself is a self contained mini mini mini mini black hole, which would explain why gravity isnt being sucked into it once formed, and that all things, once they pass inside the sphere gets.. "ate".

but one thing that escapes my feebly thinking mind from wrapping around... is the shockwave, i saw in the data file where it stated that, and in the earlier Manga it was shown something like that. but i figured it was because he was still trying to find a good way to represent it. Both animes show it as globe being thrown at the target, the fight with enzyme 1 in the orginal ova was the best example in my opinion, plus that also showed some gravity distortions by having the air currents being sucked into the sphere. and later on in the Manga he showed it as an actual sphere too when Guyver 1 shot the chronus combantant multiple times in the second book.

of course like i said im not getting the shockwave part so maybe im misinterpreting its usage. i dunno. some help please??? O smart People of Japan Legend/Guyverboard?? keep this up and yall are gonna be my heros.

now... to put my game face on...

[*zeo]

For further explanation on black hole evaporation you should look up Hawking Radiation

Basic summary is that black holes leak and this eventually causes them to lose energy until they collapse and explode as their gravity drops below the intensity needed to maintain the event horizon.

For the Pressure Cannon, this basically means the gravity ball is losing energy as it travels towards its target and this energy is generating a sonic boom (translation: Pressure/Shock wave).

The exact process was never explained officially. So I'll just give you my theory on how it works, since we are both partial to the black hole explanation.

As I see it, the whole process starts as gravitational energy that is channeled from the Gravity Control Orb, through the special internal organs the Guyver uses to utilize gravity energy until it reaches the special organs in the wrists that then focus the gravitational energy to the palms of the hands. Focusing the gravitational energy until it forms a spinning gravitational energy mass that collapses into virtual mini-black hole (virtual because it doesn't have the actual mass or energy of a true black hole so the effect only lasts as long as the gravitational energy can maintain the effect)

The spinning action lets the pressure cannon draw in and form a pressurized layer of air around itself, essentially a continuous shock wave (aka sonic boom)

Basically this is what we would call an Accretion Disk

The mini-black hole itself would then be isolated by a vacuum layer as the spinning layer isolates it, minimizing energy loss until the weapon hits its target.

The Cannon is then fired at this point and when it hits its target the pressure/shock-layer hits like a cannonball, which then exposes the mini-black hole that then slurps up the target mass disrupted by the initial impact. But not being a true black hole it quickly collapses, probably phasing the slurped up mass out of the continuum (probably into the boost dimension as one theory has it that gravity can freely flow between dimensions), leaving the characteristic hole as all that is left behind.

My theory for Zektole is that his armor is strong enough to resist the pressure layer of the impact and without breaking up the mini-black hole doesn't have the energy to slurp up his whole body and so it collapses without slurping anything up.

Against dense but brittle material the pressure cannon can also create explosive decoupling...

Powered Zerebubuth was able to shield himself because his spikes could generate a type of vibrational energy field that would disrupt the pressure layer of the pressure cannon and cause it to collapse before impact.

Thus completes my theoretical explanation

[Larz Zahn]

Are you a professor or something?

whats the explosive decoupling? That the pressure cannon sphere collapsing?

[*zeo]

Nope, not a professor, though I probably got the mindset of one. I tend to think a lot, as in never stops thinking. If I got something interesting to think about I can stay awake 2-3 days straight. . . Gets me in trouble some times though as I don't always transcribe everything I've thought about and tend to summarize with gaps I sometimes have to fill in later to correct confusion. . .

Anyway, Explosive decoupling is just like it sounds... the pressure cannon can cause some things like concrete to basically explode like it was hit by an explosion. Example is scene in new Anime where G3 used three single handed pressure cannons to explode the ground around G2, blasting enough debree into the air to disorientate G2 and letting G3 go on his way unhindered, just before G2 has his final confrontation with G1.

But basically yes, the pressure cannon collapses and the combination of shockwave and vacuum left behind, as I figure it anyway, creates an implosion then explosion effect, kinda like the thunderclap of a bolt of lightning is created by the vacuum created by the 30,000 degree heat of the bolt of lightning that super heats the air upon its passage and leaves a vacuum in its wake. Since nature abhores a vacuum the air rushes in and creates the shock wave that we hear as a thunderclap... Essentially translating the gravimetric potential, gravity is basically potential kinetic energy, into the target mass and causing it move outward explosively... Does that make sense now?