xtro guyver Posted March 18, 2003 Posted March 18, 2003 Take the units from Female GUyver 2 and Guyver zoanoid and give them to a biotitan and a Neo-Zektole. ACTF would be screwed. Alk could always use one on himself and one of the other zoalords. Then the Creators and the ACTF would be in deep trouble. Well if he did that the creators would blow up the solor system in order to try and kill the resulting guyver zoalord, its why alk in the wg2 world didn't bond to guyver unit.
thanosfan82586 Posted March 18, 2003 Author Posted March 18, 2003 Take the units from Female GUyver 2 and Guyver zoanoid and give them to a biotitan and a Neo-Zektole. ACTF would be screwed. Alk could always use one on himself and one of the other zoalords. Then the Creators and the ACTF would be in deep trouble. Well if he did that the creators would blow up the solor system in order to try and kill the resulting guyver zoalord, its why alk in the wg2 world didn't bond to guyver unit. Could the Creators really destroy an entire solar system? I could understand the Creators of the WG2 world possibly doing it since they didn't have the original Guyver Zoalord to set them back the advancement of their technology.
McAvoy Posted March 18, 2003 Posted March 18, 2003 First off, Alkanphel if he ever did get a full unit, it would take him time to gain full power. By then Creators would have detected a major power increase, and probably would send every single warrior they have in their Empire to prevent Alknaphel from powering up to his maximum. A Guyver Alkanphel is wenty times greater than the first Guyver Zoalord. He would be unstopable. Second, Bio Titan is only a first generation Bio Titan. As long as Chronos is around, the Bio Titan can get stronger through upgrades in their design. The Bio-lord upgrade that Kron got may not work considering that it was only used on Kron himself, which he is a zoalord. We don't know that how different a Bio Titan is to a Zoalord. They might be so different from each other like zoalord to zaonoid. Besides, a Bio-lord upgrade like Kron's is a 2.5x increase. That would put them each at 500 men each. The Elite Zoalords are only 400 men each woth the exception of Destrol who is 500 men. Kron, and Alkanphel are the only zoalords beyond the 1,000 men mark. Tonnin and the Guyver Powred Zerebubuse though not zoalords and outside the zoalord setup, can at least match the Enforcer Kavzars. That makes only three. Alkanphel can only defeat the Creators one at a time. I don't think he's stupid, and I don't think he's going to attack them when they have less than a thousand Bio Titans, and with ACTF to contend with as well.
xtro guyver Posted March 18, 2003 Posted March 18, 2003 Take the units from Female GUyver 2 and Guyver zoanoid and give them to a biotitan and a Neo-Zektole. ACTF would be screwed. Alk could always use one on himself and one of the other zoalords. Then the Creators and the ACTF would be in deep trouble. Well if he did that the creators would blow up the solor system in order to try and kill the resulting guyver zoalord, its why alk in the wg2 world didn't bond to guyver unit. Could the Creators really destroy an entire solar system? I could understand the Creators of the WG2 world possibly doing it since they didn't have the original Guyver Zoalord to set them back the advancement of their technology. Oh they could I mean the graken nearly did it in soloar crisis by planning to detonate a Dimenional couple in the sun causeing it to go to super nova, good job cyber guyver was there to stop it.
guyverfanatic Posted March 18, 2003 Posted March 18, 2003 First off, Alkanphel if he ever did get a full unit, it would take him time to gain full power. By then Creators would have detected a major power increase, and probably would send every single warrior they have in their Empire to prevent Alknaphel from powering up to his maximum. A Guyver Alkanphel is wenty times greater than the first Guyver Zoalord. He would be unstopable.Second, Bio Titan is only a first generation Bio Titan. As long as Chronos is around, the Bio Titan can get stronger through upgrades in their design. The Bio-lord upgrade that Kron got may not work considering that it was only used on Kron himself, which he is a zoalord. We don't know that how different a Bio Titan is to a Zoalord. They might be so different from each other like zoalord to zaonoid. Besides, a Bio-lord upgrade like Kron's is a 2.5x increase. That would put them each at 500 men each. The Elite Zoalords are only 400 men each woth the exception of Destrol who is 500 men. Kron, and Alkanphel are the only zoalords beyond the 1,000 men mark. Tonnin and the Guyver Powred Zerebubuse though not zoalords and outside the zoalord setup, can at least match the Enforcer Kavzars. That makes only three. Alkanphel can only defeat the Creators one at a time. I don't think he's stupid, and I don't think he's going to attack them when they have less than a thousand Bio Titans, and with ACTF to contend with as well. McAvoy has pretty much nailed it on the head. Guyver Alkanohel would a 4000x guyver zoalord vs. the 200x guyver zoalord in the time war. You can sure as hell bet that the Creators would send in their enture army to kill Alkanphel.
Zeus Thunderbolt Posted March 18, 2003 Posted March 18, 2003 alks warrior unit is incomplete right?, it only gives him bio armour, some shields, vibroswords and a hsl. so why doent he just take off shadow guyvers unit? it is complete, has sort of strong bio armour, shields, hsl plus the 2x guyver strength. if alk used the shadow unit, wouldnt it be more useful than the prototype warrior unit he has?
Sully Posted March 18, 2003 Posted March 18, 2003 No Comment though I did answer it in the fic, you're either to lazy to read it properly or two dumb..... that is the question?
Guest Posted March 18, 2003 Posted March 18, 2003 He can't the shaddow unit is a proto warrior unit so would not be removed by a normal remover, the only unit he can remove without a remover is his own as he knows the codes to do it, does he even have a unit remover?
thanosfan82586 Posted March 18, 2003 Author Posted March 18, 2003 Could the Creators detect Alk if he merged with a guyver unit but remained in his human form? My line of thinking is this because Kron couldn't find Zeugma if she stayed in her human form inside a large building.
xtro guyver Posted March 18, 2003 Posted March 18, 2003 Could the Creators detect Alk if he merged with a guyver unit but remained in his human form? My line of thinking is this because Kron couldn't find Zeugma if she stayed in her human form inside a large building. But alk will be in guyver form during the bonding process and will only be able to deactivate the unit when he regains consnius(sp) depending how long this takes may give the creators plenty of time to detect him
thanosfan82586 Posted March 18, 2003 Author Posted March 18, 2003 Could the Creators detect Alk if he merged with a guyver unit but remained in his human form? My line of thinking is this because Kron couldn't find Zeugma if she stayed in her human form inside a large building. But alk will be in guyver form during the bonding process and will only be able to deactivate the unit when he regains consnius(sp) depending how long this takes may give the creators plenty of time to detect him True since the Creator fleet is constantly monitoring Earth.
Sully Posted March 19, 2003 Posted March 19, 2003 Umm.... Line of thinking is wrong thanosfan82586 Chronos does not have very advanced sensors, the Eye Of Chronos is just that mostly, an eye...... It can do some other basic stuff but that is about it. Ont he other hand, if the Creators wanted to find Zuegma, they would in 3 seconds.
Guest Posted March 19, 2003 Posted March 19, 2003 to be able to turn alk into a guyver zoalord they would neeed to wipeout or capture all close creator forces. that would be very hard indeed. or take a relic and bio boost in another galaxy
xtro guyver Posted March 19, 2003 Posted March 19, 2003 to be able to turn alk into a guyver zoalord they would neeed to wipeout or capture all close creator forces. that would be very hard indeed. or take a relic and bio boost in another galaxy They couldn't use the ark as the creators are keeping a close eye on thing Even if Chrouns had the ark full operational and finished ark2 along with the mini ark being made from EKP ship they still wouldn't have the forces to wipe out the creator forces
Guest Posted March 19, 2003 Posted March 19, 2003 i did'nt say the ark though, i said a relic something that the creators don't know about. they would not need to wipeout the whole of the creators in the universe just the ones close enought to destroy the solar system thats all. it would be possible if chronos get help from grakken and actf and all other guyver and warrior on earth. one surspise attack from them could wipe out all the creators close enought to destroy the solar system. once wipout they would be free eo turn alk into a guyver zoalord. tell the truth it would be better if they turned him into guyver zoalord in another galaxy. imagine the damage he would do in self defence mode.
Guest Posted March 19, 2003 Posted March 19, 2003 The instant that Chronos attack either a creator or one of there servents, would alert the other creators who could put there forces straight there via warp portal, not even if you knew of the creators there officially, there would still be the ones there illegally.
thanosfan82586 Posted April 27, 2003 Author Posted April 27, 2003 How strong is a zoalord when he first merges with a guyver unit (seeing as how it takes time to reach full power)? Couldn't the Creators have detected Reeve(the Guyver Zoalord) merging with a guyver and stopped him before he reached full power?
xtro guyver Posted April 27, 2003 Posted April 27, 2003 Do remember that the creator concil tself was on earth along with all the valuable warrior projects, which the creators didn't want to lose, so they may have hesitated due to this and the fear of their worst nightmare occuring, though I'm sure this willl be covered better when Brian rewrites Time war
McAvoy Posted April 27, 2003 Posted April 27, 2003 If your worse nightmare occured, wouldn't you want to stop it before he realyl got too strong? Alkanphel thought so in WG2's timeline. There, they had nothing seriously to worry about since all of their warriors are Warrior Kavzars.
Guest Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 didn't a creator give the zoalord the guyver unit in time war. how else could a zoalord get a unit back then as they couldn't go againts the orders of the creators. so if a creator did give the unit to a zoalord all the zoalord would have to do is follow the creator orders until he got to full power then kill the creators. anyway the zoalord in time war seems kind of weak so he may not of been at full power anyway.
McAvoy Posted April 28, 2003 Posted April 28, 2003 According to Jaosn in the Meeting of the Warriors story, Zoalord Reeve was given a unit by a Creator. Also keep in mind that the Guyver Zoalord didn't take Warrior Guyver too seriously when they fought. Most of this will prbably be cleared up when Brain rewrites it.
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