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So just because the series was continuously made we ignore the timeline and just call it all gen1? And the Creation Matrix still doesn't make it the same as the Matrix. One was used to create and the other just stored Sparks. In the series only the Vector Sigma had the potential to create another Cybertron.

So isn't the vector sigma the actual Allspark? Since it is the only thing shown that had the same purpose as the Allspark? So you mean the whole Rodimus Prime era wasn't gen2? Funny, having Spike grown up and his son the new kid on the block would fit gen2 in my book. Kinda defeats the purpose of calling it generation anything if you don't count the next generation as the next generation. After the movie they killed many of the old characters or altered them. So it wasn't the same series. And even in Beast Wars the Matrix wasn't the Allspark, just a conceived version of it. Cause they introduced the concept of a soul and the Allspark to them was basically heaven. Even in the movie they said things like, "Until all are one" etc. Never mind they were all considering death, not life. The Allspark in the movie created life, the opposite of death so fits the Vector Sigma and not the Matrix.

Possible, also it's a matter of will power. Before Sho was the weaker will but after his friend's death his will is so strong now he considers it a new power. Which is what he said when he started to turn giant, basically that with his new power (I.E.>Will Power) he would unleash the Gigantic's true power. So even after witnessing it Agito may not be able to do it unless he could match Sho's new level of Will Power. It's also possible Agito may never have had full control of the Gigantic and it was just Sho's weak will and unwillingness to fight that gave him control. For example when the one and only time the Gigantic has collapsed after firing the Giga Smashers was when Agito was facing off against Imakirum. Thing to remember is Sho could not bring himself to kill him because he still remembers Murikami. So it is possible the reason the Gigantic came off at that precise moment was because of Sho, to prevent Agito from killing Imakirum. Or that Sho never gave Agito full control. All we know for sure is Sho has now completely outclassed Agito in both ripping the Gigantic Away from Agito and blocking him from taking it back. As well as making the Gigantic do something that is truly amazing.

I don't know, I never read the comics but in the Cartoon series the Allspark and the Matrix were TWO Separate artifacts. The Allspark was revealed in the gen1 series, first with the key to it being found on Earth and the Decepticons trying to use it to turn the Earth into a new Cybertron and then back on Cybertron they revealed the main device which the key activated. It was then used to give life to the Stunticons(spell?) and the Aerial Bots. And Optimus Prime's mentor died while linked to it but Optimus later recovers his spark and puts it into the Matrix when he uses the Matrix to link to the Allspark in Gen2 series after he got resurrected. The Matrix itself was revealed in the movie when Optimus Prime died and is just a container of the wisdom and knowledge of all the Autobots leaders going back to the very beginning. Unlike the Allspark the Matrix never gave life, it only contained a copy of the minds of all the autobot leaders. So whichever autobot carried it got enhanced by the sparks of all those leaders combined. But only the Allspark could create new life. This wasn't changed in the Beast Wars as far as I recall as the Matrix was only encountered when they stumbled upon the Ark, since they were basically in the past before Gen1 really started. So unless the other medias diverges completely from the cartoon series they are two separate artifacts. Course the movie will most likely go its own route.

The normal Gigantic height is under ten feet for both versions Gigantic's. Only the Fan Fic Dreadnought is 12 feet tall and that's a combination of the fact that Jason is taller than either Sho or Agito, and his WG form is even taller than Risker's. And the Warrior Gigantic is more powerful so is naturally taller. Ultimus is based on an Aceaer so has to be bigger for equivalent power so he's 16.4 feet tall. The Giant Unit by itself is 15 feet with a human pilot.

Well, if made to go after a particularly powerful being the Eliminator would of course be able to also kill anything of equal or lesser power. The Eliminator was just very efficient at killing WG's, but that didn't mean it couldn't go after others. In fact the WG Eliminator was powerful enough that it took Dreadnought to finally take it out. Even Zeugma had problems with it and she's not even a Guyver.

Yup, so if most of the 60 meter tall mass of the Giant Gigantic is stored energy then releasing it all at once would easily provide that level of power.

More if you consider the whole body is storing a massive charge of energy and using the Smashers might discharge all that energy. This makes more sense when you remember the Gigantic was created to defeat Alkanphel and Alkanphel had the potential to destroy something as big as a small moon. The amount of energy needed to equal that power is closer to a million times the power of the Guyver Mega Smashers.

Unless there is a direct need to interact with said explored world. You could just have a specially equipped Relic do all that work. Especially if it goes exploring by itself, an actual probe ship would make more sense. After all for the Creators the Armor was little more than a universal space suit. So it was not something they would automatically look at and say deep space explorer any more than we would look at our space suit and think deep space probe. Even the Guyver still needs to breath. Not to mention the units were made before any advance live evolved on Earth. So the only ones using the units back then were the Creators and I doubt they would want to risk their lives like that. Though you could have a special device that performs that function. The Unit Remover did show the Creators made other devices that could work with or on the unit. So maybe a device the Unit can link to that would give it the needed abilities... Like a module that would give a unit space travel capabilities and the tools needed to explore. Or maybe not use a Unit at all and just something similar. The Creators did use the CM in every device... The Units has one, the Relic has two, even the Unit Remover has one. So just create a shape shifting probe?

Exactly

Thermal, they figured out the transformer metal was vulnerable to intense heat.

Not impossible, as McAvoy just pointed out, just not something the Matrix could normally do so long as the W'Kar element is a factor. For the Reproduction Units though the Matrix would have no problems, since they don't have W'Kar element merged with their units there is nothing to interfere with the Matrix. It's only the True W'Kar Units, which have been merged with the W'Kar Element that pose a problem for the Matrix since the Matrix is basically not powerful enough to effect the W'Kar Element. So W'Kar is essentially shielded from the Matrix by his W'Kar element.

Darzerb can naturally radiate heat. For example when Aptom first tried to absorb him he transformed and emitted a blast field of heat so intense it knocked Aptom away from him. He can also vomit napalm for fire breath. So just imagine how the Guyver would enhance those abilties In terms of Strength it's hard to tell who was stronger as Power Zerebubuse only existed in the novels and now the new anime series. But Darzerb is considered the physically strongest hyper zoanoid so chances are Powered Zerebubuse didn't enhance strength any more than the standard Zerebubuse. After all pretty much all its energy was channeled into giving it the energy shield, vibro-tri-claws, and that arm energy cannon which according to the anime seemed like a maser. And those abilities alone drained it's energy so fast that he was quickly left vulnerable.

I don't recall OP ever merging with the Spark? The closest I recall was hooking the Matrix to it as a go between. Unless you're confusing the All Spark with the Matrix?

Perhaps we are having a communications problem but we never discussed different classes of Creators. Nothing you have said changes the fact that what you can and can't do in a story is dependent on where you are coming from. Which you pretty much have to state from the beginning. If based on the Source then it can't be a regular unit. Only if you are either adding to the story, with a special or custom unit, or reinventing the story can you do that without conflicting with the original concept.

Considering the head beam, the swords, and the barrier shield are all showing themselves to be equivalent to the size of the Gigantic. There's a good possibility then the Smashers are also equivalent. But going by size it'll be more than 2000x. Remember even the normal Gigantic Smashers are 100x a normal Smasher and they less than double the normal size. While the Giant Gigantic is like 12 times taller but with equivalent increase in volume as well. So they can be anywhere up to a million times more powerful.

If working from the Manga, it has to be a seperate possibility. The Guyver Unit was never made for War, it was the host that turned it into a weapon because its function is to boost the abilities of the host and humans were created to be weapons. It also has to logically fit into what we know about the Creators. Like the WG unit was create after the Creators discovered the Guyver effect and took time for them. It took a logical step of what if they didn't panic and saw the potential instead. We never went off into a tangent and suggested they were different from the start. And since it's not a human ability to link with technology then it wouldn't be something the Guyver Unit would naturally do. Since it only boosts the host natural potential. Alternative would have been to have a human like a Scanner (like the movie Scanners) with the natural ability to link with just about anything. Then the unit would boost that ability. Or a device like the Matrix which could alter the function of a unit. Or a specialized Unit made for exploring unknown alien worlds. Or a new type of Unit, like W'Kar, etc., with abilities totally different from a Guyver Unit. Now if you want to reinvent the Manga then that's a different story but you have to remember to change all the aspects of the story that would be effected by the change.

Probably because they knew it wasn't real, only a manifestation of Dreadnought's power. Unlike the Giant Gigantic which really is a Giant Gigantic.

The Calendar page also helps

It is only referenced for when Dreadnought was created, not his present status. Lots of things are possible but what will actually happen you'll just have to wait and see

I guess you won't be satisfied until we go through the long list. Here's a sampling... 1) The Creators controlled evolution, they would not have been bothered by biological viruses. In fact the Zoaforming process uses viruses to alter the DNA of the human. But an organic virus works under completely different principles than a computer virus. Even if their behavior can be similar. The CM would be able to easily handle a biological virus because that is what it is designed to deal with. But a computer virus is a human invention. The CM would not know what to make of it let alone defend against it. 2) The Creators are telepathic, there would have been no secrets between them so the social structure that gives rise to hackers and virus writers would not have existed. So the Creator technology would never had to deal with computer viruses or anything like it. We do it because we are a violent species and some of us enjoy hurting others but the Creators in the Manga created humans exactly because they weren't that violent and needed a warrior race to do their fighting for them. 3) Things like a universal translator were designed to translate. While the Guyver was only designed to work with a host and other Creator technology. Expecting the CM to translate or otherwise communicate with technology that for all intents and purpose would never be encountered at the time it was created would be like having a modern human go back in time and expect to fluently speak with a caveman. Just because a modern human is more advance doesn't mean you can communicate with the caveman. Similarly just because a CM is more advance doesn't mean it can communicate with our primitive technology. 4) Nowhere has it been ever shown that a Guyver can understand languages they do not know. So we know the unit doesn't translate for them. And Chronos has access to the most advance technology on the planet and they can't access the CM either. The best they have been able to do was access the Relic's memory through Zoalord telepathy. It didn't respond to anything else. 5) Problems with communications go both ways, just because the CM is more advance doesn't mean it was equipped to deal with technology that didn't even exist when it was created. And with the knowledge of how the CM does communicate doesn't mean we can make it do anything it wasn't designed to do in the first place. 6) In terms of processing power size isn't an issue for the CM. To do what it does it has to be far more powerful than any computer we have ever made. But all the processing power in the world is useless if it can't be reconfigured to do other things. Even our computers are useless without the right programming. Without a bios/firmware a computer wouldn't even start up. The CM would have it's own equivalence to this but being created by an alien race for working with technology far more advance than we are even close to making means there would be nowhere for it even to begin to establish communications with our technology. 7) Depending on how the language of the CM is based on the result of a communication can result in either it acting like a virus to our computers or our computer languaging acting like a virus to it. 8 ) Even if the CM followed the host desire to communicate with our technology. It would have learn our computer code first and reconfiger itself to work with technology that would be completely alien to it. Like the SCSI capable example, there is nothing that the CM is designed to connect with. 9) The Guyver Unit was designed to bond and bio-boost a living sentient host. It did exactly that with a human host, the only difference is it became a weapon because the host was a weapon. The Creators were only surprised by two things... 1 was how powerful the Guyver was and 2 was that they could not control a bonded host. They themselves also got bio-boosted by the armor, and they even stated they are 1/10th as powerful with the armor as a human host is with the unit. Which means it makes them as strong as zoanoids and that the Unit didn't do anything it wasn't already designed to do. The Creators themselves said the Guyver problem was an innate problem with the human race, Not the Unit. 10) All examples of technology you can look at for communications have one thing in common, they are all specialized! No one chip will decode all types of signals and even with the right signals they still need a common communication language to establish a link. For example you can't have a MAC and PC share information without a special program to translate between them. This despite the fact that MAC and PC's are basically the same technology and only different in operating systems. 11) The CM keeps a backup of not only the host DNA but also their physical condition and of their mind. The host is restored to their last memory and body scar when regenerated. The amount of information that alone is equivalent to is mind boggling enough without the CM also doing something that would be outside its design. The CM has to both Control the Guyver Unit and interface with the host. Add that with telepathy there would be no need to interface in any other method for the CM means there would be no need for the Creators to give it the ability to communicate in any other way. So even if the host wanted to there would be nothing for the Unit to draw upon to establish a link with our technology. 12) The hyper sensors has nothing to do with decoding. It is simply a sensory organ just like our eyes but far superior. It even took Sho a long time before he master it. Like when he first encountered Zerebubuse he was unable to detect him even though we could see him standing on a roof just a few buildings behind G1. It wasn't until much later that Sho learned to use them to get more advance perception from them. Which means his brain had to adapt to them just as our brain would have to deal with any new sense or way of perceiving. The unit didn't automatically process the information for the host. 13) None of our technology is made to interface with the human brain. While the CM is made to interface with brains. The Relic in the movie was giving Sean it's memories for example. Even Zoalords can transmit memories to each other like when Prug'stal showed Balcus what he witnessed when Gigantic Guyver first showed itself. Which shows it's a brain to brain communication. So the CM shouldn't be any more able to link with our technology than a Zoalord. Btw, the laser was only used in the movie, in the anime and manga the Relic communicated by enveloping the Guyver in a light like energy field and the Guyver CM extended to link the host brain directly with the Relic so the Guyver could pilot the Relic like an extension of their body. But the key thing to draw from that was that it was a brain to brain link. Not the type of communications that could ever be adapted to communicate with our technology. 14) Electronics don't respond well to EM fields, for example when the Gigantic Cocoon first took off from within the Chronos research facility at the Dead Sea. It fried all the electronics around it as it took off. So even if the CM somehow does try to communicate with our technology it could very well fry it in the attempt. 15) Despite having the Gigantic at their disposal, neither Sho nor Agito ever showed any signs they could ever interface with electronics. So long story short, if you want a Guyver to inferface with human technology, just come up with a good reason like it was specifically designed to do so.

The CM only interfaces with the host and other Creator technology. Nowhere is there any example of radiowaves or anything related to our technology. Chronos itself has tried every method of interfacing with Creator tech and have failed every time. And Chronos has been around for nearly 400 years. If Takaya even remotely wanted that possibility considered don't you think he would have let Chronos had more success in that regard? The best Chronos got to was being able to telepathically access the memory of the Relic in Arizona but they could never command it. The mere fact that they could access the memory shows the CM is configured to process information similar to how our brains do. I.E.> Not in a way our technology could ever interface with. It really only takes common sense to figure out what is possible or not possible Aranor. Even our own technology won't speak to each other unless it was designed to do so. You can't connect a SCSI capable to a Serial Port for example. Different operating systems don't automatically recognize and communicate with each other. And our technology is not only the same technology but is more or less made to work with each other. Yet we still have problems. Now you want a totally alien device created eons before our technology was even conceived of by a culture that probably has nothing in common with us to just up and communicate with our technology? This is much less a possibility than an outright near impossibility. There are just so many factors that goes against it. And no, a telephone, radio, whatever is not the same as communications. You still need something to translate the signal and even then you need a complex system of communication to get anything more than you would get from simple hearing. The Creators did not speak english. So aside from math there is nothing to base communications on with our technology. And the CM would have to recognize our technology as Technology before it would even attempt communications. But sine our technology is nothing like Creator technology there is no reason to believe it would ever even bother. Never mind even if communications is established what the results would be. Like taking another sci-fi series for an example, in the STTNG episode "CONTAGION", the Iconian Probe performed a simple identification communication but it's technology was so far more advance than Starfleet's that it acted like a virus that would have destroyed the ship. And organic technology is considered even more advance than that example. Just to show how badly mixing technology can be if a proper means of communications isn't established first. Or even vise versa, like in the movie Independance Day, it emphasized the fact our culture deals with a lot of viruses and such. Something the Creators probably never had to deal with so even if communication is established there is no telling what our machine code would do to the CM, how it would be interpreted, etc.

Seems we can't count Khan out yet, seems he can create super powerful bio-missiles with an interesting twist. Not only are they each powerful enough to take out a city block but... They emit a energy field that lets them go right through the Gigantic's Barrier Shield. Which means Giant Gigantic Guyver One has no protection against this attack and it appears powerful enough to take out even something his size. Though it does appear the Barrier Shield is more flexible an ability than previous thought as GGG1 protected a building with it by project the barrier with his hands so the barrier protected the building in front of him but did not include himself. Which also means the Gigantic could probably contain an explosion if he wanted to.

You want the long list or the short list? Short list is... 1) Telepathy doesn't work on the same principles as electronic communication. And Sho and Agito didn't communicate over long distances, Agito and Sho only ripped the Gigantic from each other but the Gigantic Cocoon was in the boost dimension when that happened so could have been what they were linking with. They never spoke to each other over those distances. Never mind the fact that telepathy is a lot more than a radio signal. Our brains would never understand a radio signal, let alone translate it to thought. At best it would be no more than hearing but telepathy in the Manga also can send images and emotions. Something simply receiving radio signals would never do. The transmission and reception of complex information requires a common communication language which the CM would simply not be programmed for. Our technology isn't designed to send communicate with brains, etc. 2) The CM was never programmed to decode anything but DNA and organic brain chemistry. Which is very different from our computer code. 3) Our technology isn't made to interface with organic materials yet, bionics and such are still in the theoretical stage of development. 4) The CM is so powerful that interfacing with our primitive tech could well destroy our tech. The unit has shown it can withstand millions of volts of electricity without any perminent damage. It'll take far less to fry our technology. 5) The CM AI could act like a virus to our primitive tech or our tech can act like a virus to the CM. 6) Those machines you mention that can transfer thoughts to movement really don't. What they do is scan patterns of brain activity and try through analysis to figure out what the signals are for. Over time this translates to controlled movement but like I said before that technology is only at its theoretical stage. Even the machine you are referring too requires loads of wires and specialized hardware to work. The computers don't literally know what the brain is saying, they just analyze patterns and give an approximate. Which is a VERY BIG difference from actually reading thoughts. 7) There are literally millions of ways to configure something as simple as a TV signal and none of them are directly compatable with each other. You can use any one of many methods of configering a TV signal and unless you are using the exact same method on the receiving TV then you won't receive anything. 8 ) A device designed by aliens could use languages and methods of communications we never conceived of and vice versa. Even computer code could seem like gibberish or without context seem like junk information. Even with our own languages there are words that don't translate in all other languages. And this is just the short list.

Uh, nope, Dreadnought is presently fully functional. He was only at lesser power during the beginning of Strange World but was fully functional when he faced that alternate world's Alkanphel.