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thanks, though lots of People have treated me as if I was hostile towards religion oddly enough. Religion is nice, just not when it's warped by certain people. I was recalling something about old Jewish Folklore. They follow the book of the old testament. But there are other stories aside from it, ones that aren't part of the canon story. For example, Lilith was Adams first wife and mate, but was cast out of the Garden before Eve was created. She ends up being with Able centuries later and birthing the monsters and fiends that haunt humanity since both were sinners. It's not i the bible for old Testament, could it be that jews prefer not teachign this as mainstream because the concept of divorce? Also, I wonder why the GOD, the christian version doesn't have a name? He has adozen different names between Jews and Islamic folk, so why not Christianity?

Well, I have been called an Atheist... though I still follow the message of Christ, and most of the Ten commandments. I just don't do the prayers or worship god anymore. But in a sense I am still christian. Though I think I can either be called a Free Thinker, yet, you can call me the Antichrist for all I care, because I don't want to be associated with anyone. I just don't like the functions of organized religion, simple because People are often told to and raised to believe every word that someone in charge of your sect preaches... well at least mine did. Not sure about all others, but a good number of them do. Most also tell you and make rules saying you must have blind faith in their methods, or otherwise it's a sin. I just find that very hard to tolerate. Oh and "manipulating People to a fair degree" can be considered an understatement. Weren't all the crusades enticed by the idea of salvation? Thousands of People marched, without armor, weapons, food to go into a battle because they were promised heaven if they did this and so forth. You wont see as much of that today as it was back then, but countless People died and left all they had being in their lives just for this one goal, to free the holy land, and if you fight for it and die, you go to heaven despite any sins you had. I have to say, it was a brilliant marketing strategy at the time. I was asked if I have faith in anything by a religious friend asking how the hell I can live with myself when I don't have faith in god, or any religion for that matter. My response was simple, I have no faith in god, just faith in my morals. It's cheesy and it ain't much, but It's me, it's my faith and though I miss blissful religious zeal, I'd rather be ostracized then stick with what I don't believe in. And yes, I know I sound sorta dreadful and hateful. I'm not hateful towards people, maybe myself and those why cause grief in life, but I do encourage People to follow their own faiths, even the religious type.

Being judgemental of unfactual beliefs that are forced on some People isn't a bad thing in my opinion. But I see what you mean. Alright, how about; "It's misleading to take the identities of others and pass off your own work as theirs to influence more people." It's dangerous to have People do that, to pass their ideas and work off in someone else's name... Friedrich Nietzsche was against antisemitic thinking, but his sister was pro. She altered and released his work with her ideas approving such thinking instead of judging and condemning it like he original intended. Hitler ended up agreeing with his sisters views, thus giving Friedrich Nietzsche an undeserved reputation as one of the men who helped Hitler Become a monster. It goes the same for the religious writing in my opinion.

All written material in the new testament such as the traveling apostles were written much later, and pretend to be written by the actual People who were supposed to life in that time period. Yet it was physically impossible for most, and those that could be remotely possible are disproved by the fact that it was all written centuries after the events described. It's dishonest to take the dishonest words of a pretender as fact, especialy if they have conflicting accounts.

you know, they made conventions to stop biological warfare. But still hasn't stopped the US from studying, developing, and even experimenting on the American population (in secret as it has been revealed recently). who said nanomachines have to function with advanced AI? simple programs to react to chemicals or attack certain objects like cancer is all that's needed. Currently they need to really be worked on and mass produced, but no need for advanced AI when it comes to this field just as it's getting started. The first prototype Nanomachine I read about was in popular science almost 8 years ago. I have to say that we can expect working ones in upcoming years, and productive ones within 3 decades. Anime and other media, just gives us more ideas as to how to use them. Right now we are trying to create new forms of energy through bacteria to create natural gas, imagine what nanomachines could do in that field if we develop them far enough.

[goes into fake chronos elite mode again] well that really depends on the regime. Alexander the great wanted to conquer the entire world, but by being so greedy and ambitious, his subjects prospered. The same can be attributed to the elite in power. Eventually, uniting the world would lessen world conflicts and better resource management would occur. They would no longer have a need to start wars or human suffering, just maintain their wealth and power base by making sure they always keep the world at debt and it's regions in constant financial competition. Of course, you could claim they would still make life unbearable for the common man, or possibly even plan to continue selective suffering of People to maintain a common enemy to manipulate people. But this is why having fictional villains to fear over is ever the most useful too. Anyone countering this helping hand to a united humanity is of course both stupid, and an anarchist. Voltaire was right to point out that the masses were nothing more then a bunch of ignorant rats that needed the lead of a strong ruler to think for them since "Common sense is not so common." The world needs more Alexander the Greats, more Cao Cao's, more Napoleon's, more Philip IV of France, and many like minded individuals. [returns to normal] it's good to pretend to be the person favoring this type of world. In all seriousness, there is no telling how the world would be life under the control of such few. It's a gamble, and thus vary dangerous, and we've seen the results of families controlling the world for too long. Often leading to decay, war and the near destruction of the civilization. These People are either like Nero or Caligula if they truly exist... PS: Nero was a good leader, he's got an undeserved reputation.

Saw the thread, then watched the whole thing. A video, like so many others talking about a real life version of chronos. It's a flawed work, and it will not be believed by the masses or even noticed. You'll only get a few intellectually stimulated People who will either agree or ridicule it. I agree with many of the concepts in the movie, but it lacks in much backing, and rips so much out of other projects that it's nothing new. All it has is a nice presentation, and lots of interesting topics and theories that have been sourced from other works and ideas. It's a great video overall, just wish they made some added comparisons and threw in details like Nixon's removal of media control limits. Maybe even comparisons to the roman coliseum to today's entertainment, and government with that of Romes and France's prior to it's revolution. Heck, it should even of pointed out that the War of Terror is a simple replacement for the USSR, Nazi Germany before that, Central Powers Before that, and Britain before that. Maybe they should of mentioned how many of these alleged elites are actually distant relatives from europe's royal families, mainly England's. In any case, I don't care. Even though what most of the movie says is true (to a degree at least) things wont change, because People fear change in power, are distracted in life, and anything countering it would be considered anarchists in the eyes of the media. Frankly, it's too much of a bother to remove what us already in power and not easily identified. Even if we remove the ones we know from power, or they end up degenerates due to constant eventual inbreeding (they would eventually inbreed if they really are that greedy, as it would keep the wealth and power in their respected families) [Goes into Fake Cronos Elite mode] Actually, a lot of People wouldn't mind having these elite around. The elite (If actually true) are inherently smarter (not counting bush, though his stupidity could be an act to prevent blame on him) then any of us thanks to their education, wealth and social standing. They have succeeded in uniting various countries that would normally be at constant war in exchange for a few small wars, and a couple of world wars. They have rapidly advanced human technology and standards of living by their methods, thus allowing blissful ignorance, gluttony, and degenerates to thrive while still allowing society to function pretty well. Although human life can be considered precious, killing a million to advance billions of lives isn't such a bad thing on paper, especially if it eventually leads to a unified world where wars will possibly no longer exist. Also, the application of such technology like chips would streamline the world and it's society, virtually ending crime, and making lives more efficient. Slavery... no actually, the term better describing it is Serfdom[.b]... has it's benefits... as it could potentially mean almost everyone on the planet would be on an equal standing, with only the elite being different, but their numbers would be so few, that it would be barely noticeable for most of humanity to complain about the quality of life.

After some time, I wouldn't be suprised if we lookedi nto Biological technology in the sense we grow houses and change the landscape with bacteria we created. Nano-tech, if we created well enough it will open a window to that option.

Amen to that brother. Now Guyver Season two I can pray for. Hell I'm willing to run down the my street naked while wearing only a priests color if that would give us a Season 2.

in other words, Zx-toles armor resists the impact, thus bouncing it back, and that keeps the more destruction aspect of the weapon in check. The armor cushions the attack, then repels it due to that. But that armor can still be overwhelmed by using a more contained amount of pressure or repeated attacks before the armor can recover as observed by the fight in the OVA series against Guyver III. I'm greatly impressed Zeo. I always figured that the blast was always dissipating, but couldn't figure why. Now you basically solved that little riddle for me. Zeo, do you happen to read Popular Science like I sometimes do?

That's true, but that's not what I was talking about, way before that. I'm talking about when the Church was being formed and even before any major churches were formed, Women were big speakers of Christ in ancient times. When the Catholic church was formed, one of the primary things they did was prevent women from any influential roles, thus they could not dictate any views on Christ, only men. This carried on to almost all church's that later appeared, including the orthodox church, which was originally a part of the catholic church as a single entity. As for the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. That depends in which christian and even Muslim religion you follow. Orthodox Christianity has him merely as prophet, as does Mohammadian religions. Originally, he wasn't taught as a son of god or holy spirit or god incarnated, just the messiah and prophet sent by god to save the Jews. Later, they seemed to change that into the form that is now currently taught in Catholic church's. From a human being with a pure heart, to god himself. They changed a lot about Christ to the point that he's no longer a real person in the bible, but just some religious object of worship. Christ hated the worship of idols, the trade of money in religious institution (he caused a rack us in a Jewish temple at one time because of this, actually flipping over tables and yelling the vendors to get out.) Michelangelo when painting the Sistine Chapel's ceiling was ridiculed by the Pope of the Catholic church at the time, because he didn't paint golden objects and riches into the painting. Michelangelo took offense at this because of his believes as followed: The Pope often saw Michelangelo, and said, "Have the chapel enriched with colours and gold, in which it is poor." He would answer familiarly, "Holy Father, in those days they did not wear gold; they never became very rich, but were holy men who despised wealth." It was true, since Jesus had no desire for gold and wealth, and often talked against such obsessions, yet the church that offers teachings buy him was completely based off gaining wealth and power over salvation of souls. There are two more things to note about the way church's worked. Did you know that original confessions used to be a public matter. A Way to gain power over a person. A Person would confess his faults and crimes in front of everyone, eventually it was done in private. But it didn't stop church officials from abusing such power. This along with threats of excommunication from the church often places many kings, officials, and men of power under the thumb of the church. The second thing is related to mythological monsters. The church had problems keeping the faithful in church. Especially during the dark ages, but they found a solution. They used the stories of monster, even creating new ones and spread the word of hideous monster in forests. But there was a way to defend yourself from werewolves, vampires, goblins, trolls, and other monsters. The solutions though were only available in church sermons, so if you were afraid of the monsters and couldn't go out into the forest as a result, then you'd have to go to the church for both comfort, and the info you seek to defend yourself. It's funny how People actually fell for that, but then again everyone falls for crap like this on a daily basis even today. I wanted to be a priest and artist as a kid. But my experience with church goers, their lack of humanity... and the teachings I found contradictory and teachings that I concluded were lies forced me to break ties with it. It's not that I wanted to do it, I just had to. I didn't want to lose faith... I miss it, I miss having faith in god and going itno the church, with the feeling of security and happiness that you get when you entered one. I just can't do that anymore.

that's very accurate Ryuki. It's one of the reasons why religion is still so prominent despite science constantly disproving or given alternate answers for our beliefs. God is a mixed bag for me. I can't deny him, nor accept him. I have no faith in him, but I wish there was a God to have faith in. But ultimately, I have to at one time or another have faith in myself, or the People around me in order to support my purpose in life. Otherwise, I simply ignore that question and life life daily. I've been having a huge religious crises since I was 12. I gave up believe in god as a kid and shortly disowned myself from the church. My family and friends thought I was nuts afterwords. Ironically my mom also ended up leaving the catholic church, but it was more due to her boyfriend. But that was bizarre and disturbing, it was a christian based religion, and it's common in Brazil, but it turned out to have many elements the church would consider pagan. I couldn't stand it after the first mass hallucinogenic religious grouping with the induced vomiting. She broke up with the boyfriend shortly after kicking me out of the house, and ended up later in a Brazilian evangelical church, which is actually pretty nice in comparison to my old experiences with organized religion. Religion has has left me jarred, I don't pray, ever. Well there are some exceptions. I'm obligated by other's faiths to pray. I had a man who came into my job one day, he began to cry while I helped him out with his shopping. I tried to calm him, and reinforce his resolve to carry on despite loosing his brother. He asked me to pray. Though I don't believe in the concept of God, or at least the versions we have of "God" I prayed for him and his brother because he asked me to. I'd do the same for others, and I prayed for my family's pride an joy, my cousin Vania, despite my lack of faith... it felt obligatory and old habits die I guess. You know, I ended up reading the entire bible when I was 8, I reread it many times over (though never memorized it). I did it on my own accord, I liked to read, didn't care for the teachings from catechism, in fact, I often found it all contradictory. Then I got into history, started researching... and got disturbed, puzzled, and curious about all these conflicting faiths, beliefs, and rules. Not just in the catholic church but all religions. Here are some examples I have. Why is it that Muslims stone to death and look on with disdain for none Muslims, widows, and orphans? Muhammad was an orphan, his mother a widow, he related to these people. He originally had a pagan faith too. But he created a new one, set up charities for orphans and widows, and taught many things (some good, some bad in my opinion) Yet, People forget this, it becomes perversed to fit someone else's needs, or outright erased if not overwritten with other things. The Koran was written ages after his death, but it's treated as if he wrote it himself. I talked to a Muslim friend, who constantly attempted to convert me whilst I was in college. We both took history, but ended up talking more about religion. We exchanged notes in religion, and it he was shocked by some of the misconceptions he was taught about Christianity, and I was shocked by some of the things he mentioned. I had started to study a bit of the Koran years before, but never read the entire thing, but I knew when it was made, and I knew details about Muhammad he didn't know. Seems that his group believes Muhammad wrote the Koran, I told him Muhammad didn't know how to read, but was a great speaker. He then told me God gave him the power to write the Koran, that he learned to read and write through gods power. But then I pointed out that it's been recorded as well that the Koran was written much later, centuries later. Just like the bible was. We looked at me pretty shocked, but composed himself a bit and told me that sometimes even he has to disagree with some of the things taught in his group. I then told him about my findings of Jesus. Jesus, it also misconceived. He had no beard, had no long hair according to his earliest representations. His date of birth is off by 8 years before the current official date by most estimates. He was born around march, but we celebrate his birthday around December. He wasn't born in a shed, nor a cave as some memorabilia scams claim, he was actually born in a hotel. He definitely wasn't white, had a huge nose, and olive tan. He was not crucified to a cross, Romans typically crucified People to tree's, not specially made cross's... if any one can recall what happened to Spartacus and his men, then you know exactly how they did their classifications. So why was Jesus turned into a younger bearded Hippie? Well, he didn't look holy enough, that's why. In order to convert mass numbers of pagan Germanic and native peoples, they needed a figure that looked wise despite his age, and holy. A youthful young carpenter with great affection for others hardly strikes one as holy. SO they made him bearded, and in many cases associated him with pagan figures to win them over. They even did that to God. God was associated with god's like Endovelicus... which ironically ended up having many of that gods traits passed on to the Hebrew god to become the Christian God People are taught. God in hebrew literature could and would do horrible acts on others, and had great fury. He wasn't a totally benevolent god, unlike Endovelicus of the Lusitanian People (They had other gods to play the bad guy). Which reminds me, look at Lucifer, changed to a villain to suit this new incarnation of God. From most loyal and devoted follower, to Rebel all the sudden because we needed someone to take the blame!? How about the the birthday issue with Jesus? Okay, he was born around march, the Romans didn't want to give up their pagan holiday in December that involved sex and booze. What better way to avoid loosing it AND honor their new faith by having it on December to allow that booze and sex to go on. The Church wanted the Romans to covert, and this was a sacrifice to allow them to keep a holiday that was helping to keep them from being converted to Christianity. 8 year birth difference can be attributed to People who wrote about Jesus, and didn't do their research. I have no idea why the Shed story was invented... it was well known where they were, why, and how he was born. So it baffles me as to why it was changed to a Shed. The three wise men can be disputed, but can't be disproved, but the location Jesus's birth can be proven and disproved thanks to historical research. Finally, we all know about the bible and dead sea scrolls. But did you know women used to be able to be priests at one time? Apparently, there was a power struggle in the early church as it was forming. Women were removed from power and allowed only a limited role. There aren't too man known reasons why, though it could of been pure sexism, or possibly a political move. But afterwords, women became second rate citizens, even under god. How about popes? What about the church breaking into two churches (Roman catholic vs Orthodox)? Well lots of popes have come and gone, but many were actually removed from the list of popes even though they existed, one was possibly even a woman in secret. Others, are well known for their cruelty, example, one pope went around dumping another pope into the ocean out of hate, another pope came in and removed him, and cut off the finger that held the ring of Paul and cast him in a similar manner as revenge, only for the same to be done to him. The pope's office, for most of the duration of human history, had been bought off, and treated as a gigantic mob like Scientology scam. Just look at what happened to the Knights Templar, the most loyal branch of the church, and richest... done away by the greed of a king and the corruption of the pope. Sorry if I wrote too much, but I can't help it. Makes me able to deal with my religious thinking and reflect on it better.

Gaara, Asuma, 4th Hokage, Zabuza and Haku's deaths in Naruto. Death of "L" in Death Note. Death of Tekkaman Blade's Sister. Death of Fumio Fukimachi murikami, and Hayami. Death of Brook's Crew in one piece. Death of Chewbacca, Dearth Vader, and Dash Rendar's (apparant) Death (all were featured in visual novels, so I count them in). Oh and I find nothing tragic about the demise of that punk from School Days, if anything it was a death befitting him. What's tragic about it is the girl who loved him in the end.