zoacrystal Zoacrystal Cloning And Cultivating

[Guest Jupiter]

I have always been amazed by zoacrystals. I have always been amazed at how they give the zoalords their god like power, god like strength, telepathic mind abilites, immunity to disease, and allows them to keep their youth. Pretty much makes them like a deity. What I do wonder is how Archenphel is able to make one and give it Barcas 400 years ago while they worked on Cronos and Optimization technology. Perhaps Archenphel took it from his own body, I don't know.

 

I understand according to Archenphel that Zoalords are hard to replace. So does that mean that Zoacrystal's cloned exactly from Archenphel's Zoacrystl must be hard to grow in a tube maybe? or take years to grow because Murakami's shattered zoacrystal from his fight with Guyver 3 Gigantic was healing very very slowly.

 

I am guessing that Dummy Zoacrystals are easier to make, but aren't as energy effective or efficient. 

 

I do often wonder if dummy zoacrystal technology has improved since Murakami first became a test type for Richard Guyot.

Also, there seems to be a huge difference in power between Richard Guyot's new dummy Crystal compared to Murakami's.

 

Is there a level of power placed on dummy zoacrystals or are they all the same power wise? I know energy wise that some zoalords display more power than others based on their zoacrystal.

 

I am a little puzzled over a zoalord like Griselda using dual zoacrystals.

 

I have more questions but I can't think of all of them.

[*Jess♥]

I think it helps to think about what they actually are.

what is a crystal?

well a crystal is a material where the atoms are arranged in a set pattern. metals tend to be crystalline so the control metal and zoacrystal are somewhat related. the control metal is pretty much a computer, right? It's more complex than a zoacrystal with separate parts, but fundamentally they could be the same. I've hypothesised this before. the CM has a transparent looking portion that can emit light. this could be similar or the same material as a zoacrystal.

anyway, what I'm getting at is, the crystalline structure can be arranged in such a way to form pathways and behave like an energy routing system. essentially it could be considered similar to an amplifier among other things. energy could be kept in a part of the zoacrystal like a capacitor or a battery, then there could be a gateway to various other parts of the crystal that can be switched by signals from the zoalord.

 

so how would a dummy crystal differ? it seems like the energy storage capacity is less. I don't think there is much more of a difference though to be honest. essentially it provides teh same as a full zoalord has access to. I think the main issue with murakami and why he was due to die, was mainly because of his processing. he had not been processed to be a finished model, so his situation was similar to the test type.

His zoacrystal helped to sustain him of course, because it seems that the energy of the crystal helps to sustain cell vitality.

not sure how it does that. caerleon shrivelled up when he lost his crystal. I would like to think that is because of the fact he had already taxed his body during his fight. I would like to think that he experienced rapid ageing because of increased metabolism and rapid cell division, not because of the natural ageing process 'catching up'. because that wouldn't make sense.  That does probably need some thought but maybe another time.

[Super Existence]

The abilities of a zoalord aren't given by the crystal, just powered and amplified by it as Yuki said.

[*V Guyver]

If you want an idea about how crystals work, some of you might want to look up Quartz. They are fantastic little odd crystals that just happen to produce energy when altered. They hardly lose energy and operate on a frequency (All crystals have a frequency to sound/energy sensitivity from what I remember) that is perfect for low voltage works. They help stabilize our radio's and watches. Now imagine how much more powerful and effective Zoacrystal must me, it regulates that super body and it's full of energy. Must be one interesting structure under a microscope.  

[Guest Jupiter]

I'm just wondering about Griselda. She has two zoacrystals that work together. I imagine they are dummy crystals because they weren't from Archenphel. So how is it she's not burnt out like Murakami is from extended use? Is it because that Hekkaring has a better understanding about zoalord development or is it because he increased or qaudrupled their time limit and energy capacity?

I'm just a little confused because Murakami was worn out in less than 5 minutes after zoaforming. Griselda seems like she could stay zoaformed for a few hours the most. She doesn't seem to get fatigued. But yes, I have many questions about the two because they're not real zoalords, at least Murakami wasn't until after Richard Guyot got his ass drop kicked out of Cronos by Alky.

[Larz Zahn]

Murakami was a five year old ProtoZoalord. We see him after years have podded and his body had already begun to give out. Heck, he was pretty much at deaths door. Griselda is no where near that age, so she hasn't felt the effects yet. Also Hekkering did tell Agito that the Libertus only had 2 or 3 years of life. With Griselda only having slightly more. Shizu, sadly, does not have much time left. As for the dual crystals.... I don't know, dint remember her having two.

[Guest Jupiter]

Murakami was a five year old ProtoZoalord. We see him after years have podded and his body had already begun to give out. Heck, he was pretty much at deaths door. Griselda is no where near that age, so she hasn't felt the effects yet. Also Hekkering did tell Agito that the Libertus only had 2 or 3 years of life. With Griselda only having slightly more. Shizu, sadly, does not have much time left. As for the dual crystals.... I don't know, dint remember her having two.

That makes sense. But in Griselda's case, how could the zoaform process and dummy zoacrystal effect someone's life span that severe?

Why are zoalord forms so unstable and complicated?

I don't understand why Hekkering made her that way. I figured he'd work on a process that gave her a longer lifespan.

Zoalords kind of confuse me a little bit. They're so complicated.

[Larz Zahn]

I think it had to do with how they are reprocessed after each battle.... Essentially, the Libertus's batteries are supercharged after each battle, which damages the body further. They already had limited life due to them being a form of, i dunno... Hyper lost numbers??

[*V Guyver]

I don't recall her having two crystals. To be honest, this is the first time hearing about it.

I have to point out there is a huge difference between Griselda and past proto-Zoalords. She isn't a prototype for another Zoalord. Her design is specifically to allow her to do combat and mind control, to exist for a short duration and still function. It's not perfect, but it's far more stable than Murikami. The drawback with her is that damage in combat or overuse of her abilities forces her to need to be charged up, and that shortens her lifespan.  Murikami was breaking down and didn't have that option to be restored, his transformations simply killed him faster without healing some of that damage. You can call Griselda's recharges a stop gap to the problem of being a protozoalord. 

As for the source of her crystal. Clearly not from Alky, I suspect all dummy crystals are actually just chemically created imitations. Something similar, but not exact. The legitimate crystals are from Alky, and the difference is apparent. 

[Guest Jupiter]

Murakami was a five year old ProtoZoalord. We see him after years have podded and his body had already begun to give out. Heck, he was pretty much at deaths door. Griselda is no where near that age, so she hasn't felt the effects yet. Also Hekkering did tell Agito that the Libertus only had 2 or 3 years of life. With Griselda only having slightly more. Shizu, sadly, does not have much time left. As for the dual crystals.... I don't know, dint remember her having two.

I don't recall her having two crystals. To be honest, this is the first time hearing about it.

 

 

 

 

Just wondering. Why would Griselda have a need for two zoacrystals? More power?

"Though not a dummy crystal (Pseudo Zoacrystal) it is embedded in the forehead and chest (Twin Dummy Crystal?). Having similar abilities as a Zoalord."(  Griselda)

            ~ Japan Legend Wiki

 

http://www.japan-legend.com/wiki/index.php?title=Onuma_Shizu

 

[*Chernaudi]

It also has to be remembered that Griselda also heals/energizes the Libertus while they fight.  Maybe if she has a second crystal, it could be an energy amplifier.  Or it could be that she has one for mind control/her own powers, and one for the purpose mentioned for the Libertus.  There's also a couple of orbs on her chest above her breasts and a couple near her hips.  Could these be gravity orbs, considering that Shizu can levitate/fly/hover as Griselda?

[*Chernaudi]

Also, I noticed that Griselda has several other orb/crystal like structures on her body, namely her face near her main Zoacrystal.  What purpose could they serve?

[Guest Jupiter]

Also, I noticed that Griselda has several other orb/crystal like structures on her body, namely her face near her main Zoacrystal.  What purpose could they serve?

 

They look like gravity points/ orbs like Murakami and Richard Guyot have. Some of the other zoalords have them too. I think the gravity points just interacts with the zoacrystal or in Shizu's case two zoacrystals... to allow easier gravity manipulation so they can fly or levitate. So are my thoughts on this. I don't recommend fully going with my opinion if you do agree. I think Yuki or one of the GA members may have a better out  look or opinion on the orbs. But I am deeply impressed with Griselda's abilities, powers and zoaform.

[*Chernaudi]

There's also two larger ones on her chest near her breasts, and two near her waist/hips.  I also can't conclude as to why she has two Zoacrystals with 100% accuracy, but I'm think that it's either to boost her mind control or maybe an energy generator or recovery system?  That could partially explain her abilities to heal the Libertus Zoanoids and she's kinda also like a battery/energy storage and recovery system for them, as she constantly boost their and her own energy levels.

[*Jess♥]

I'm wondering why our wiki says she has two.

A lot of it was translated from the japanese wikipedia by durendal, but I've checked Griselda's data file and there is no mention of two.

I'm thinking that the wiki page for griselda may be in error.

I think it might be a good idea for somebody to go over our wiki for accuracy.

Somebody familiar with the manga and datafiles and who can come to me with any test that hasn't been translated for clarification.

as far as I'm concerned, griselda has one 'crystal' which may be a dummy crystal or a zoacrystal. There is nothing that I have seen that leads me to believe she has more than one of those. The crystal that is in the centre of her breast is a similar shape but I do not think we can consider it the same type of thing. not unless explicitly stated.

[Guest Jupiter]

If you want an idea about how crystals work, some of you might want to look up Quartz. They are fantastic little odd crystals that just happen to produce energy when altered. They hardly lose energy and operate on a frequency (All crystals have a frequency to sound/energy sensitivity from what I remember) that is perfect for low voltage works. They help stabilize our radio's and watches. Now imagine how much more powerful and effective Zoacrystal must me, it regulates that super body and it's full of energy. Must be one interesting structure under a microscope.  

 

I looked into what you said and that seems to make sense about Zoacrystals. So Zoacrystals would have to produce massive or collosal amounts of energy referring to the piezoelectricity effect. I didn't think of that. But it makes a lot of sense.

[*Chernaudi]

Could the one in her chest be not a Zoacrystal, per se, but used for something different?  I believe that it's some type of crystal that doesn't function as an actual Zoacrystal, but maybe as an energy generator/amplifier.

 

That could explain why Shizu can heal the Libertus from injury and produce energy and manipulate the energy of other Zoanoids.  That's my theory on the second "crystal".

[*V Guyver]

Do we have an official Bio on here for reference? Just to help clear things up a little. I imagine that if it is the case with two crystals, they probably serve to help with what the first one can't handle. Maybe it helps lower some of the problems in dummy crystals by having two. 

[*Jess♥]

of course.

http://www.japan-legend.com/guyver_advocacy/Visual_data_files/01/21

[guyver]/Visual_data_files/01/21[/guyver]

[*V Guyver]

Thanks Yuki. Hmm, seems there is much data past on who created her. No real depth to how she functions. No mention of two Zoacrystals at that. 

[Guest Jupiter]

Well, that closes the case to Griselda. Just wondering what that crystal on her chest does than. Didn't it glow in the manga along with her zoacyrstal?

[*Chernaudi]

Even if it's not a Zoacrystal, it has to be capable of doing something.  I don't think it's there for decoration.  That'd be Shizu getting a mani-pedi or earrings or her hair done.  The crystal on her chest probably has some function beyond cosmetics.