Why do jerks and creeps keep getting the girls

[durendal]

My new question is this; "Why do people cling to unhealthy relationships?"

Well, its probably the same reason why most girls stay with jerks. Also, there are many reasons why people stay in a relationship even though it is already unhealthy to them. One, common reason is that they are already used to it. And would no longer be used to living alone. Also, being scared can also be a factor. There are many reasons actually, but I can say that most of them have insufficient information/experience in terms of having a relationship.

[*V Guyver]

Well, it's just bizarre seeing women like my mom and some friends who just choose to stick with such men after they turn out to very unhealthy. My mom has been with 3 abusive men, and they were the first 3 men she ever got serious with. My father was a tool, my step dad was a drunkard, and the third guy was horrible human being that manipulated my mom, used to make her suicidal, and went about abusing everyone in the household in turn. They all broke up and made up many times, and each time it got worse. All three ended up causing her depression, wanting to commit suicide, and beating her. Despite this, she let them do whatever they wanted, she didn't even care for her own children who loved her as much as she loved these men. It really reached a low point when after all the abuse from the guy, he came barging into my room one night screaming for no reason (no trigger for it, I hadn't talked to him that night nor did anything) and decides to start punching me, after a few punches, I had enough and punched him back once. He got pissed, demanded my mother choose between me or him. In the end she chose him and I was kicked out into the streets, where I had to end up moving into my aunts house later and live with her for the next few years.

Then there are my friends, like Jes. She constantly dates jerks, and even though they cheat she forgives them and lets them come back. She often does what they want, just short of having sex. Meanwhile, she seems to get crazier in what she does in life as she dates. At one point joining the US army (and kicked out of it) and constantly getting drunk. At least she isn't a slut like Lohan (who text-ed a certain Olympian swimmer for a erotic night).

Finally there is me, I had a online friend who for so many years has had a major thing for me. She refuses to let go of me even though we've never met and she has people in real life interested in her (thus a more realistic and healthier relationship.) I admit, I had mutual feelings at one point, but I knew it was unhealthy in how we effected each other online. Almost a year ago after a long period of not talking to each other due to lack of communication methods we hooked up again as friends, she wanted it to become her boyfriend despite my telling know and reasoning why it was a bad idea. She helped trigger my depression that let to my nervous breakdown. But I could of avoided this because I knew that it was probably better not to talk to her anymore after signs of her attraction to me resurfaced. yet, a part of me still wanted to talk to her because I liked her as a friend and we had really connected as friends for so many years. In the end, we haven't bothered trying to contact each other after the breakdown even though I didn't tell her she had a part in it's cause.

Finally, there was one event in my family history where relatives ended up committing suicide because of one man. This cousin of my mother married a man and had a daughter with him, but he was a brutish monster. He drove his wife to suicide, and later his own daughter. The details escape me, but my mother used to enjoy the fact that she looked like his daughter, and would make him fly in a rage when he saw my mom dressing similar to his daughter (they looked alike. Actually almost everyone in my family looks alike.).

...woah, looking back in all of this, I feel like I'm some cheesy soap opera character.

[durendal]

Wow V Guyver, I really appreciate you sharing some intimate details of your life. Must be a very rough road you traveled. If it's any consolation, there is this saying that "what doesn't kill you can only make you stronger". For one thing, I believe that behind every great person lies a hard life. You only need to stand up yourself and not let it affect you.

And you don't need to worry about some cheesy soap opera character, as soap operas are in fact derived from the experience of everyday people. Sad thing about your mom. Are you still in speaking terms with her?

With regards to your online friend, have you met personally? If you have, there is nothing wrong with long distance relationship. One good thing about having a girl/boyfriend, is that you can have somebody to talk to about things that you can't talk to anyone else. And talking about your problems is a start to finding a solution.

[*V Guyver]

Wow, it's based off real life? Like people really deal with lost evil twins bent on killing wives, and witches with dolls that are brought to life to protect a baby? Sweet!

jk, thanks for the support there, yeah I know I don't have the worst problems off and there are those with my problems and much worse off.

As for the lady online, we haven't met personally, though she wanted to meet me in person. Id had my reservations, but I decided I should go. Problem was that after the breakdown and many financial woes I didn't do it, then we stopped talking.

I should be fortunate I guess, I was never molested as a child, never had drug adopted relatives, nor did I get beaten horribly... well there were beatings almost every other day, but it was normal Portuguese beatings, not monstrous ones that could lead to broken bones or anything.

[CustodianGuyver]

Well, it's just bizarre seeing women like my mom and some friends who just choose to stick with such men after they turn out to very unhealthy. My mom has been with 3 abusive men, and they were the first 3 men she ever got serious with. My father was a tool, my step dad was a drunkard, and the third guy was horrible human being that manipulated my mom, used to make her suicidal, and went about abusing everyone in the household in turn. They all broke up and made up many times, and each time it got worse. All three ended up causing her depression, wanting to commit suicide, and beating her. Despite this, she let them do whatever they wanted, she didn't even care for her own children who loved her as much as she loved these men. It really reached a low point when after all the abuse from the guy, he came barging into my room one night screaming for no reason (no trigger for it, I hadn't talked to him that night nor did anything) and decides to start punching me, after a few punches, I had enough and punched him back once. He got pissed, demanded my mother choose between me or him. In the end she chose him and I was kicked out into the streets, where I had to end up moving into my aunts house later and live with her for the next few years.

Then there are my friends, like Jes. She constantly dates jerks, and even though they cheat she forgives them and lets them come back. She often does what they want, just short of having sex. Meanwhile, she seems to get crazier in what she does in life as she dates. At one point joining the US army (and kicked out of it) and constantly getting drunk. At least she isn't a slut like Lohan (who text-ed a certain Olympian swimmer for a erotic night).

Finally there is me, I had a online friend who for so many years has had a major thing for me. She refuses to let go of me even though we've never met and she has people in real life interested in her (thus a more realistic and healthier relationship.) I admit, I had mutual feelings at one point, but I knew it was unhealthy in how we effected each other online. Almost a year ago after a long period of not talking to each other due to lack of communication methods we hooked up again as friends, she wanted it to become her boyfriend despite my telling know and reasoning why it was a bad idea. She helped trigger my depression that let to my nervous breakdown. But I could of avoided this because I knew that it was probably better not to talk to her anymore after signs of her attraction to me resurfaced. yet, a part of me still wanted to talk to her because I liked her as a friend and we had really connected as friends for so many years. In the end, we haven't bothered trying to contact each other after the breakdown even though I didn't tell her she had a part in it's cause.

Finally, there was one event in my family history where relatives ended up committing suicide because of one man. This cousin of my mother married a man and had a daughter with him, but he was a brutish monster. He drove his wife to suicide, and later his own daughter. The details escape me, but my mother used to enjoy the fact that she looked like his daughter, and would make him fly in a rage when he saw my mom dressing similar to his daughter (they looked alike. Actually almost everyone in my family looks alike.).

...woah, looking back in all of this, I feel like I'm some cheesy soap opera character.

Damm your mother is not exactly a very nice person for kicking out her son and choosing her bad partner. I mean your mother held you in her arms when you where first born into this world how da hell can she do something like that honestly.

I really hope that someday you start talking with your mother again Vguyver.

As for me sure my family can be annoying sometimes, but they always have been there for me. My father used to hit my mother when I was a child. Mainly thanks to alcohol.

Now he dosen't hit her anymore ever since we told him me and my sister 6 years ago that if he does it again we would all leave him with my mother.

My mum is the best mother anyone could wish for. She takes care off her family and my father is not a bad person either,but I told him a few times that he was a fool for hitting my mother when I was younger. One time it made him cry.

My sister is about 30 years old. She gets on my nerves, because she always asks me do I look fat in that dress or jeans or some other clothing. I told 1 more time you ask me if I look fat in particular clothing I am gonna punch you. She not even fat.

Chicks are so paranoid on how they look that it is not funny. Gives me da shits to be honest with you guys.

Overall I have everything good like family and few close friends. My life to be honest is not actually bad. I would give it 6.5/10. What I want know is to find a girlfriend.

For me it is kind of hard,because I am shy closed off sort of person. I know I have to go out and meet new people, but I hate places like night clubs or pubs since I don't drink or smoke.

I don't mind going to the movies or for drive with a car sometimes, but crowded places with a lot of people gets me nervous for some reason. When I meet new people for first time be that guys or girls I am usually quite. Once I get to know em I would talk more. This usually takes place in about few times meeting that same person.

Currently battling against a damm depression. I really hate my down suicidal moods. Been having these insane death thoughts for about 2 months. Have to beat this drenn or I will commit suicide.

If it was not for my family helping me out and few friends I probably would be dead today. I love my family and I don't want em to suffer, because I chose the easy way out off this world.

Always this damm thought that is driving me insane. I am 27 years old and never had a girlfriend is there something wrong with me? Belive me I am not gay.

I said to myself about 999999 times at least. If I ever start having gay thoughts of other men I would slam into a solid brick wall with a car going over 200 km per hour with me been in the car. In other words I would rather be dead than become gay. My view is that gay people is like a disease similar to cancer or other genetic human defects.

I apologize to any person that is gay on this forum and all other gays in this world, but that is just my view.

When I was younger I did not care about getting a girl that much, because I was playing rpgs and other Games for about 8 hours a day. That would be when I was working. When I was not working it would be 12 to 14 hour gaming sessions a day. That continued till I was about 23. I went out only sometimes to the movies or on road trips. In a year I would probably go out about 6 times roughly. After I came back from a 5 day holiday in Hawaii something inside me changed. I started playing less and less Games and now at 27 I play about 1 to 2 hour a week worth of gaming. I go out a bit more. Either movies to a friends house or sometimes just for a drive by. Cafes rarely. Probably been like 3 times to a cafe in my life time.

Nightclubs and pubs never done it for me and never will.

Edited August 20, 2008 by CustodianGuyver

[*V Guyver]

Actually me and my mom do talk, I moved in back with her and have been taking care of her and my siblings. It's half of the reason I got a nervous breakdown because I didn't want to move back with them, just felt obligated to look after everyone in my family, and essentially had thrown my future away by doing so. I pay the bills, the rent, and her bills, her insurance. I'm still doing it even though I lack a job now. It's ironic how it all turned out, and now I'm nothing more then a ATM to my mother, if it weren't for the other kids, I'd of kicked her out and sent her back to Portugal to take care of my grandparents by now.

I'm sorry to hear you are battling depression as well. But you at least had a great mom, and you love her and she loves you. That's one bright aspect in your life you have and that some like myself don't. I have lots of negative problems, but you should do what I do. I try to look at all the good things I do have in life. I have a brother who loves me and depends on me, I have a cat who accepts no one but me. I have friends online who support me. Whenever I walk around Newark, there isn't a single day I walk there that someone stops by next to me and says hi. Everyone there knows me even though I haven't hanged out with many people over the years. I have no social life nor can I go back to college while supporting my family and job hunting, but despite that I have gotten a ton of time to study and research material I didn't have time do such as read such as Appian's historical works, civil war documentations, WWII information, Yi Sun-sin, and catch up with old Animation I haven't seen in years. I'm sure there are a ton of good things in your life you've taken for granted and are just too. Also you seem insecure about your own sexuality because a lack of girlfriends makes you think (or had jokes thrown at you) about the possibility of you being gay. If you don't have urges, then you aren't gay, if you aren't attracted to men, then you aren't gay. If you really need to take care of that problem then you can do what I can't do. I have no personal friends anymore, but you still do, all you have to do is ask for a blind date arrangement. Problem is getting the cuts to do it.

I'm sorry if I tread a nerve, but I hope my advice helps a little. But then again only we can take action to change our lives.

[durendal]

CustodianGuyver, you have an interesting life there. It is good that you no longer have suicidal tendencies. And if you love your family, you don't want to do that. Because when you leave this world, it is your family that suffers. Just imagine what it would be like without your loved ones. Do you want them to feel that way?

In terms of you finding a girlfriend, it's better if you do not rush things. Based on what you said, what you can really do is take it step by step. First you need to overcome your shyness over other people. For one thing, sharing your background in a forum like this is a good start. One you are comfortable with meeting people, that's where you start talking to the opposite sex.

You don't need to go to night clubs or pubs to meet people. If your not comfortable going to those places, you won't be comfortable with the people you meet there. You can meet people everywhere, like the Library, Museums, amusement parks or any place. Just go to a public place where you feel comfortable and become friendly with everyone. You're bound to meet someone there. At least your doing better right now by not emersing yourself in Games for a long period of time.

If you are having difficulties meeting people up front, you can try meeting people online. Of course this is a double edged sword. You may get lucky and meet your soulmate, or get bad luck if you meet a gay psycho.

Also, one good point about you is that you listen and understand, and try to emphatize with the person you are talking too. Nice girls usually likes that. the key is to take it step by step and don't rush. If you can carry a conversation smoothly in this thread, then I don't see a problem for you in meeting other people.

Good luck to you and your endeavors.

[*V Guyver]

I have to agree with Durendal, his advice was better then mine. Lol

[CustodianGuyver]

Thanks for all the support. Don't worry durendal there was no offence in that post. All the stuff that you said to me was off good reasoning. I only get offended if you attack my family by saying you wanna bump my mother and other more foul stuff. I was just watching Bejing olympics 2008 right now. It is just incredible how strong these olympians sports people are. They have unlimited confidence these olympians. They worked hard for to get their medals, but I feel society looks down on people like poor,disadvantged. Same goes for disabled people and other unforutnate people in this world like very poor in Africa.

I bet if I was to say this stuff what I said about myself on some world wide forum. Most people like over 85% would label me a looser. Other human downfall is judging other people too much. I would be a bit guilty of that charge too. Working on completlyviping out my judgment of other people.

This human society and TV media focus too much energy on movie stars and sucessfull sports people. Why dosen't the media make a big event where humanity is helping poor people. Think of it as olympics as how many poor children that are aged 5 that can be saved from death by starvation, instead off how many gold,silver or bronze medals a sports person or specific country gets. If you ask me everyone deserves to be treated equally even gays.

Sure I don't like gays, but I would not go out off my way to try kill or hunt down gay people like some morons do. If you don't attack kill my family or rape my sister or worse I won't attack you unless you do those things you try to do to me.

I am quite and passive person. Which means I never attack or piss someone else first.

We are all fans of the guyver, but its nice to see other threads where we can discuss some other real life stuff other than guyver.

Good to hear that you are talking to your mum Vguyver I wish you all the best with you and your family. Same for you durandal.

All the people on this forum are pretty cool. Sorry I sometimes swear and post as if 16 year old kid posted, but that is just me being immature sometimes.

Damm I really want em to make Guyver Anime Season 2 and they better. ON TOPIC There is a saying give people a chance and you never know who you will meet.

Taking chances in life can give rewards as well as break you.

I hate people who think they are better than anyone else, does not return money that they borrowed and are arrogant cunts period. This wanker falls into this category of people. Former friend I knew this guy over 10 years. This tosser should write a book titled I KNOW EVERYTHING followed by a sequel TRUTH HURTS :lol: He would make a great con artist. Write bull drenn so he can sell it to innocent people and make tons of scammed dollars.

Plenty of human garbage like him exist in this world.

I SAY GOOD RIDDANCE TO YA fool. Don't need people who pretend to be my friend, but are actually not.

Edited August 20, 2008 by CustodianGuyver

[durendal]

V Guyver, sorry, but I didn't notice your earlier reply. It seems that You posted it when I was still writting mine. Anyways...

It's good to hear that you and your mother is in speaking terms. And what exactly is stressing you out with the current arrangement? Don't tell me your also taking care of your mother's partner? That would be an abuse. It is admirable that you would take care of you mother and your other siblings at your age. A person like you is a rarity in todays society. Already feeling the burden of responsibility, many girls would say that you already have a husband quality. .

[*V Guyver]

Well I'm not taking care of her new boyfriend. They started dating a month ago after the previous one broke up (forgot to mention I only came back AFTER he was gone)

But she has started acting like a 16 year old idiot teenage girl again. She disappears for days at a time now, doesn't come home at all. We are in the middle of a move. We were supposed to move out months ago, and she's told me every week that we'd start moving, but then she disappears again at her boyfriends and we don't get things done. I'm still living here in the rat infested apartment while she's out having fun, and trying to figure out how I'm going to move everything, or even pay rent and the bills because I've already been paying money for the new apartment for months and have yet to move any furniture there. If that weren't enough, she blow close to 800 dollars needlessly improving the place. She would come by and tell me she needed to fix the things and it would cost so forth and wanted new pain. I expected her to just get some normal paint, replace the sink, and clean the apartment. End result was that the walls were painted in a variety of fruity (painful to the eye) colors, she damaged the wooden floors with her hired painter because they were too lazy and stupid to put a tarp on the floor. The paint wasn't applied correctly, so it was discolored, and the wooden floors which have plenty of gaps are now covered in globs of paint on top of the wasted money. In effect, my mom has nearly bankrupted me completely with all of these shenanigans, and driven me and the owners of the house into bouts of anger at her... then she disappears, leaving me financially stranded and only shows up to take my money or ask me for help.

I would of taken care of the entire matter myself if it weren't for two things, my handicap prevents me from driving, and though I could rent a uhaul. the money I could of spent on the uhaul and some hired hands were ruined by the lies and mishandling of the apartment. I should of kept an eye on her, but I was job hunting at the time and she didn't want me near the apartment anymore (and now we know why) because she knew I was going to get pissed off at her about what she was doing... So now I basically have to apartments to take care of, and to top it off, the new one we are supposed to move into looks like a rejected art project from the carebears cartoons.

I knew this crap was going to happen to me, so I often ask myself why? Why did I move back in at the request of my aunt, why does everyone shoulder these unwanted responsibilities? Then I remember, I'm a nice enough guy that people know they can take advantage of because he thinks like a 1950's family (no, not the mafia family type) man. Essentially, I am Ned Flanders, and the rest of my family is made up of Homer Simpson (mom) Bart (brother) and Maggie (my little sis).. and of course the cat is snowball the second. Homer just walks all over Flanders, treats him like crap, and does what he wants, then steals and lies for whatever goal. Me being Ned, just does the "ooogly doogly" and continue on to the best of my ability. I nearly fell apart almost a year ago, and unless I start changing things I will likely end up like Ned did in that one episode where he went insane.

Now that I've typed this and reflected on this, I am still at a loss. If I had found a decent job, like working at the USPS either as a Currier or mail handler, I'd have enough money to solve the money problems. What I can't fix is my mom, because she's a bigger moron then myself, yeah I know I'm being disrespectful, but this is how far my mom has driven my respect for her down the toilet. Siblings, I have no idea how I will survive, brother is a teenager always getting into trouble and breaking rules. Sister is a young girl, and girl stuff is hard for me to take care, heaven help me if I have to go bar shopping with her in ten years. Then there is the biggest problem, myself. Because I'm the one with the most power to change and if I wanted I could leave this place and start a new life, but I can't leave them to self destruct. It looks like I have to swallow my pride and ask to regain my old job at Walgreen's. I'll probably receive start at the salary I started with 6 years ago, and I'll be depressed from the environment there again. So now, it's more of a matter on "How long can I last out here with no help before work and family finish me off."

Oh and I've come to understand why I share my problems here. It's probably a desire for sympathy. Or maybe just a cry for help, or maybe both. I don't suggest anyone admire me, I've seen hundreds of people worse off do tons of better things and make out better. In my case I'm just someone who can't cope as well and has too many physical handicaps to work my way out of it.

One last question. Do you guys think a nut house could be a nice place to live in? I mean, you are drugged, constantly fed, nice place to sleep in, and you get help. The again, a nut house can be scary with all your fellow nuts in there, and some of the people working there may be abusive to patients. I just wonder how it would be like if I reached a low and just turned myself into that place to try recover my health from a second breakdown. The first breakdown mostly had me in bed for two months worth in the first 5 months after I broke down, and mostly just stayed in my room shut out. A shame I couldn't be at peace at home. So if I do break down again, I'm going to turn myself in to the state for treatment.

Damn... I ranted. lol

[durendal]

V Guyver, you posting all your problems here is actually very healthy for you. I reckon that you don't have anyone at the moment to whom you can vent all your frustrations. It is very good that you release all those tension. Now that you've let all your negative feelings out, it's time to start finding solutions to your predicament.

This is actually a similar incidence with a friend of mine.

Firstly, let us try to analyze one of your biggest burdens. Your mother. What is the thing that she most need from you? Based on what you said, I would say that she relies on your financial aid. Now you have to start to learn to say "NO" to her. Even though she is your mother, you know what responsibility is and you have to teach this to her. This may be the hardest thing that you have to do, but you really need to do this, or else she will suck the life out of you eventually. You need to control your mother in terms of her spending. You can moderate her behaviour based on the assistance that you give to her. Remember, you are currently the bread winner, and by virtue, you have the right to demand as the head of the household.

I sure do hope my recommendations would help you and not put you in an undesirable situation. I do apologize if I have overstepped my boundaries.

If there is anything we can do to help, please do tell us.

[*V Guyver]

I've tried that a lot. Often she'll ask for money, say no then use a guilt trip on me. Sometimes I actually don't have the money and she goes and spends the money she does have on what she wants, then later lets the bills pile up, eventually I would have to end up paying for them all to restore electricity, water, and all this crap. First thing i had to do was eliminate her $10,000 dollar credit debt, then over the last few years she's run be close to $70,000 US dollars. That's money I had earned for college, living expenses, and eventually a home. I have only about $3,000 dollars left now and no job. My fault of course, like I said, I didn't have to be here. I could of flipped the bird at her and gone off to live on my own like I was about to. But everyone in my family pressured me to go back and help her, my Aunt especially. My aunt had taken me into her home after my mom kicked me out and helped me out for 3 years, and she still helps her own 29 year old son. In effect, I was convinced to help my mom because of her example. These days, I don't talk to my aunt, because my aunt would just ridicule me for everything that's happened. She sent me in thinking I'd fix all these problems, and instead I've ended up falling apart.

How about we switch the subject back to what the topic originally was about. It's supposed to be about male female relationships in relation to attraction, not parental problems. Lol

Edited August 20, 2008 by V Guyver

[CustodianGuyver]

Well I'm not taking care of her new boyfriend. They started dating a month ago after the previous one broke up (forgot to mention I only came back AFTER he was gone)

But she has started acting like a 16 year old idiot teenage girl again. She disappears for days at a time now, doesn't come home at all. We are in the middle of a move. We were supposed to move out months ago, and she's told me every week that we'd start moving, but then she disappears again at her boyfriends and we don't get things done. I'm still living here in the rat infested apartment while she's out having fun, and trying to figure out how I'm going to move everything, or even pay rent and the bills because I've already been paying money for the new apartment for months and have yet to move any furniture there. If that weren't enough, she blow close to 800 dollars needlessly improving the place. She would come by and tell me she needed to fix the things and it would cost so forth and wanted new pain. I expected her to just get some normal paint, replace the sink, and clean the apartment. End result was that the walls were painted in a variety of fruity (painful to the eye) colors, she damaged the wooden floors with her hired painter because they were too lazy and stupid to put a tarp on the floor. The paint wasn't applied correctly, so it was discolored, and the wooden floors which have plenty of gaps are now covered in globs of paint on top of the wasted money. In effect, my mom has nearly bankrupted me completely with all of these shenanigans, and driven me and the owners of the house into bouts of anger at her... then she disappears, leaving me financially stranded and only shows up to take my money or ask me for help.

I would of taken care of the entire matter myself if it weren't for two things, my handicap prevents me from driving, and though I could rent a uhaul. the money I could of spent on the uhaul and some hired hands were ruined by the lies and mishandling of the apartment. I should of kept an eye on her, but I was job hunting at the time and she didn't want me near the apartment anymore (and now we know why) because she knew I was going to get pissed off at her about what she was doing... So now I basically have to apartments to take care of, and to top it off, the new one we are supposed to move into looks like a rejected art project from the carebears cartoons.

I knew this crap was going to happen to me, so I often ask myself why? Why did I move back in at the request of my aunt, why does everyone shoulder these unwanted responsibilities? Then I remember, I'm a nice enough guy that people know they can take advantage of because he thinks like a 1950's family (no, not the mafia family type) man. Essentially, I am Ned Flanders, and the rest of my family is made up of Homer Simpson (mom) Bart (brother) and Maggie (my little sis).. and of course the cat is snowball the second. Homer just walks all over Flanders, treats him like crap, and does what he wants, then steals and lies for whatever goal. Me being Ned, just does the "ooogly doogly" and continue on to the best of my ability. I nearly fell apart almost a year ago, and unless I start changing things I will likely end up like Ned did in that one episode where he went insane.

Now that I've typed this and reflected on this, I am still at a loss. If I had found a decent job, like working at the USPS either as a Currier or mail handler, I'd have enough money to solve the money problems. What I can't fix is my mom, because she's a bigger moron then myself, yeah I know I'm being disrespectful, but this is how far my mom has driven my respect for her down the toilet. Siblings, I have no idea how I will survive, brother is a teenager always getting into trouble and breaking rules. Sister is a young girl, and girl stuff is hard for me to take care, heaven help me if I have to go bar shopping with her in ten years. Then there is the biggest problem, myself. Because I'm the one with the most power to change and if I wanted I could leave this place and start a new life, but I can't leave them to self destruct. It looks like I have to swallow my pride and ask to regain my old job at Walgreen's. I'll probably receive start at the salary I started with 6 years ago, and I'll be depressed from the environment there again. So now, it's more of a matter on "How long can I last out here with no help before work and family finish me off."

Oh and I've come to understand why I share my problems here. It's probably a desire for sympathy. Or maybe just a cry for help, or maybe both. I don't suggest anyone admire me, I've seen hundreds of people worse off do tons of better things and make out better. In my case I'm just someone who can't cope as well and has too many physical handicaps to work my way out of it.

One last question. Do you guys think a nut house could be a nice place to live in? I mean, you are drugged, constantly fed, nice place to sleep in, and you get help. The again, a nut house can be scary with all your fellow nuts in there, and some of the people working there may be abusive to patients. I just wonder how it would be like if I reached a low and just turned myself into that place to try recover my health from a second breakdown. The first breakdown mostly had me in bed for two months worth in the first 5 months after I broke down, and mostly just stayed in my room shut out. A shame I couldn't be at peace at home. So if I do break down again, I'm going to turn myself in to the state for treatment.

Damn... I ranted. lol

Well my mum is compeletly opposite and it's not too good either. Sure she cooks,cleans,works and is constantly worrying about money. I keep telling my mum take a damm vacation and stop worrying so much about bills and material stuff. Example we bought a new tv 42 inch lcd,new fridge and kitchen table.

Material stuff and money will not make you happy,but it makes life easier. I know that much. Think with people the more material stuff and money you have the more you want. I have that fuc king curse. I wish I could somehow help you Vguyver and people that are worse off than you.

I would need a Guyver for that. Do a vigilante style justice by executing pedophiles, corrupt politicans, corrupt businessmen and other collection of human garbage that are killing ruining this world.

Guyver gigantic would be nice as it would allow me to clean up such a collection of human toilet waste faster. It comes with a hyper smasher a great scum cleansing aoe area of effect tool.

Well that dream ain't gonna happen that's for sure.

Back to serious chat. Just take care of younger sister and your teenage brother the best you can. Is there any goverment help with money and food where you live VGuyver. Don't be afraid to ask for help if you really start to struggle. I am sure there are some kind people still left on this cun t off a hole who care about other fellow human beings.

Like I said I wish I could help you out and millions people like you. If there is a afterlife like heaven I think you definetly deserve to go there after all the crap you put up with on this earth.

I reckon the god off light pissed on this world and gave up. God said 'fuc k it there is too much corruption in this world even I can not fix it'. Time to leave it and start a new world project which I hope I do not fail.

1 more thing is in Australia a few months ago we had on news and our paper about Paris Hillton and what that famous slut does. About 3 weeks almost everyday something about that tart.

Like I am who gives a fuc k what stupid gang bang party Paris and her rich slut friends are having now. How many guys they fuc king sucked off. :lol:

I would rather watch news on a monkey in zoo being born than about famous rich people.

[*V Guyver]

My mom asks for government help, and increasingly she gets cut in benefits for not getting a stable job.

I don't ever plan on getting aid from the government, I'd rather starve. It would be me leaching off society, one that already has tons of financial problems thanks to leachers like my mom or some crackheads from Newark (I hate those kind of people with a passion). No, I will work out and make a living and earn my own food. Problem is finding a job that will hire a handicapped fella who can't drive and doesn't have a college degree, and pay well enough to support a family of 4.

Yeah, Paris Hilton. Now that's someone we can focus on about on how a person can be bad in relationships. She's pretty selfish, and pretty ignorant, I feel sorry for her. I think she needs help and just either ignores them or doesn't realize it. Some day she'll wake up with Some STD and probably will not blame herself for getting it.

Edited August 20, 2008 by V Guyver

[durendal]

Well, for one thing, getting government aid in your old age is something that you have the right to. This is also one of the places where your taxes go to. But then, it depends on where you are. And usually, you'd have your own retirement fund as government aid tend to be a little less than adequate.

And about Paris Hilton. She just wants attention. It's probably the upbringing she had, being an heir to an empire, he parents didn't probably pay much attention to her needs while growing up. For one thing, she probably ends up with jerks because of her status. As a majority of jerks are more assertive. This is also probably one of the reason why most women are willing to go out with the wrong person.

Sometimes when meeting people, it is the first impression that makes the impact. Being a nice guy won't get the girls attention 100% of the time. This will probably work if you are going to spend a lot of time with the girl. But if you get only a short time to interact with a girl, you need to eliminate your shyness and assert yourself. Of course, doing it the wrong way will have a negative effect on you. Namely: girl gets disgusted with you. Most jerks have mastered this approach, so it comes naturally to them and girls are usually decieved by this.

In some cases, the reason why a girl puts up with a guy is becuase of her pride in wanting to change the attitude of the guy.

[*V Guyver]

Its coming out for PS3!? Alright I can play this thing! Sweet

Good points. I wonder when women will finally understand that trying to change a guy is a bad idea. It's probably a huge factor in why jerks stick around, see women's expectations in when a guy claims to of changed (what a load of crap 95% of the time) and the foolish woman welcomes him back.

[CustodianGuyver]

Good points. I wonder when women will finally understand that trying to change a guy is a bad idea. It's probably a huge factor in why jerks stick around, see women's expectations in when a guy claims to of changed (what a load of crap 95% of the time) and the foolish woman welcomes him back.

That is so true. If they want a jerk who will later on beat em up in life and control them they can have em. My aunty when she was young was the same. She always wanted a guy who was a trouble maker and drinker too.

Fast forward 35+ years time and now she divorced him. He nearly killed her 3 times my uncle. All those times he was completly drunk off his head.

Scenario that usually happens about 85%+ times when women marry a jerk.

Now women leave the relationship if stuff like that starts to happening to them instead sticking around like my aunty.

I am gonna be a bright pink hippo for saying this, but my aunty deserved it. You picked him so enjoy the misreable life you had.

That is what happens with jerks and if chick still wants let em have it.

Relationship is supposed to be give and take. I don't belive in completely controlling women, but she is not gonna do the same thing to me either. Beating up women is just plain wrong. Especially when you have children with her. Affects them the most seeing violence and abuse at home.

I will treat you the same was as you would treat me. Same with guys or ladies. I am nice guy,but step on me too many times and I can become the biggest piece of rampant fire in this world.

I can easily get a gold medal on being a swimming athlete if I wanted too. :lol:

[durendal]

It's actually very easy to be a jerk. All you have to do is not care. It's that simple. The only drawback there is that it will be your conscience that will be killing you. For those who doesn't have a conscience, that's the answer as to why most of them are jerks.

[*V Guyver]

Some of those miles truly don't care. But there are those guys who claim to hate women and abuse them, but you always see the dating them. There is an aspect of the abuse being rooted in being hateful of women in general.

[*Jess♥]

custodian, we filter certain words for a reason.

I spoke to you about bypassing teh word filter before. not sure if you remember or if you noticed.

from now on, if I see anyone bypass the word filter I will edit their post and change teh offending word to something embarrassing.

[durendal]

We have word filters? I didn't know that. If we did, why do we allow the word "bugger"?

edit: Nevermind my question. I've seen you change the F-word to bugger automatically. Was this added recently or is it only applicable only in this section? As I recall, someone called a certain someone using the f-word.

Edited August 22, 2008 by durendal

[*Jess♥]

the word filters have been on since the start.

some user groups have bypass privileges though.

VIP members can bypass the word filter. the reason for this is that the VIP subforum is a free area for anything.

that icludes as much swearing as they want. we encourage clean language in other areas, but the thing about VIP membership is having the freedom to choose.

same as admin and moderators.

[CustodianGuyver]

I can easily get a gold medal on being a swimming athlete if I wanted too. :lol:

Np ryuki I noticed you changed words to swimming athlete. Not what I originally wrote, but it's funny. From now on no more avoiding the word filter.

Just wondering most members on these forums are 18 years and over. Probably 12 year old to 5 year old read this forum too. They will pick my jolly swear words. :lol:

[*V Guyver]

Dude, I hope you change some of the word filters bit so that more incredibly funny words come out.

Like the F word being changed to the name of some indian food.