Why do jerks and creeps keep getting the girls

[*zeo]

Well it's not aways the women who get the shaft...

When Women Won't Love You, the USB Talking I Love You Mouse Will

Imagine the market needed to make such products popular?

In my own experience women often wind up with guys who promise them the world and don't show their true colors until its far too late. Unfortunately the jerks are often very careful which side they show and can be very convincing.

[durendal]

I think that if the USB mouse vibrates, I'd say there would be big market for that. and would come in various size and shape.

Yes, women tend to believe sweet talk and stuffs like that. Just goes to show how great a liar guys can be.

Also, why is it that most of the time it is men that chases after women? Why can't women chase after men once in a while?

[*zeo]

Oh, they most certainly do. It's just women have to worry about the double standard in which sexual promiscuity is culturally acceptable for men but looked down upon from women.

Plus in many cultures men stack the deck, some are even very barbaric about it like in Egypt they still practice female circumcision even though the government finally outlawed it a few years ago there. The practice is of course to ensure women don't enjoy sex as much as men and so make them more likely to follow established traditions in those parts of the world.

Then of course there are arranged marriages and mail order brides, not to mention the cultural programming of what girls grow up being told what they should be like and which type of men they should marry.

It really is a mess!

Even in our own culture, the media and hollywood has done a good job messing up the minds of whole generations.

[*V Guyver]

Yeah, it's pretty horrible in some countries. Hell, in India they still have families willingly selling off their daughters (and even babies) for a profit.

Also I remember one international incident between the US and one Arab country. Turns out the princess to the Monarchy ran off with an US soldier stationed in that area. They had been in love and married shortly. But the US and that country tried to find legal loop holes to allow her to get deported out of the US because of the financial ties to the country. I think it happened in the late 90's.

Ahh, found an article

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6628334

LAS VEGAS - The five-year marriage is over between a former Marine and a young Bahraini royal whose story provided the basis for a made-for-television movie, “The Princess and the Marine.”

“It was what she wanted,” Jason Johnson told the Las Vegas Review-Journal of the divorce he and Meriam Al-Khalifa filed for Nov. 17, the day after their fifth wedding anniversary. It calls them “incompatible in marriage.”

Johnson, who had sneaked his beloved into the United States and was court-martialed over the relationship, cast the tale as a “Romeo and Juliet” love affair that disintegrated amid Las Vegas nightlife, opposition by his wife’s family, and at least one death threat.

Al-Khalifa was not represented by a lawyer in the divorce filing. No one answered her apartment door Monday and it was unclear whether she planned to stay in the United States.

Met at a mall

The story started in January 1999 when Johnson was stationed in Bahrain, an island kingdom off the coast of Saudi Arabia. Al-Khalifa is one of five daughters of Sheik Abdullah bin Ibrahim Al-Khalifa, a distant relative of Bahrain’s king, Sheik Hamad bin Isa Al-Khalifa.

They met at a mall and fell in love, though he was a Mormon and she was a Muslim, forbidden to marry a non-Muslim.

Her family ordered an end to the romance. They continued to secretly exchange letters through a store employee at the mall.

Johnson spirited Al-Khalifa to the United States when his tour of duty ended in November 1999, using forged documents and a disguise including a New York Yankees baseball cap.

Johnson was court-martialed over the incident, demoted and discharged from the Marines. Al-Khalifa sought political asylum in the United States.

The couple married in Las Vegas on Nov. 16, 1999, when he was 23 and she was 19.

Movie, talk show circuit

The story made headlines. Besides the TV movie, the couple made the rounds of television talk shows. They rented an apartment in Las Vegas and lived off money from the movie. Johnson got a job as a parking valet on the Las Vegas Strip.

He described constant tension with Al-Khalifa’s family, and said the FBI once told him they’d intercepted a man who said he’d been paid $500,000 to assassinate her.

Johnson said Al-Khalifa plunged into Las Vegas nightlife, partying with her friends and ignoring him.

About a year ago, Johnson said, Al-Khalifa left him. He lives now in Las Vegas with his stepmother.

“Deep down inside, she knows that I loved her more than anything in the world,” Johnson said. “I can say I enjoyed every minute I spent with her.”

Edited September 22, 2008 by V Guyver

[*Jess♥]

Yeah, it's pretty horrible in some countries. Hell, in India they still have families willingly selling off their daughters (and even babies) for a profit.

in China, they eat human babies.

sounds like a crude joke?

no, I'm deadly serious.

they have a one child policy (you probably already know that) so if an unexpected pregnancy occurs, the resulting child can be butchered and eaten as a delicacy. it is believed to promote youthful looks or long life.

[durendal]

I may have to contest that claim. What you saw in a documentary is an isolated incident and is not in anyway condoned by the Chinese government. Currently China is slowly becoming lax of the one child policy due to the devastating earthquake which happened recently. Also, the current policy is not as cruel as that. What they do is give additional tax burdens to those who have more than one child. With the logic that if you can have more than one child then it means your very well off and can afford a heavy taxing. which is why some of the people in china migrate to other nearby countries to raise their children.

Also, back to the subject matter about families selling their daughters. It is very sad about this, as I can say that not all families condone this type of action. I like to believe that they are forced to do it because they cannot afford to raise their child and believes that their child will have a better future with somebody else. The hardest thing you can do to someone you love is to let go.

[*Jess♥]

I may have to contest that claim. What you saw in a documentary is an isolated incident and is not in anyway condoned by the Chinese government.

I didn't see any documentary.

I learned this through chinese friends visiting this country.

actually it has been mentioned on two separate occasions with different people.

I don't know about what the government thinks or whatever, I wasnt trying to suggest that the government tells people to eat the baby! that would be crazy.

I think it's obvious this would be a kind of black market thing, but I was describing the motivation and reasoning behind this.

[durendal]

Yes, sadly it does exist, and those people are very sick (well, sick in an understatement). But that does not mean that the people in China are not appalled by this kind of black market. But then, there are other countries that does something more revolting. Mass communication has the tendency to blow something out of proportion.

[*zeo]

Yes and no, unfortunately there are true horrors in this world that no matter how much we deny them still happen whether we allow ourselves to be aware of them or not.

But since we have no control over that I suggest we change the course of this discussion away from horror for a bit to something a lot less depressing...

Japan: Where Sex Robots Permeate Every Aspect of Society

[durendal]

Haha, I find this funny. Japan, who is known to have some issues with procreation, is capable of coming up with things that promote procreational activities. I wonder if this has anything to do with their people becoming "Otaku" that segregates themselves from society, thus sex sells at a much higher rate.

Also seen the whole video, looks like something similar to chobits.

Edited September 23, 2008 by durendal

[*Youngtusk]

In my experience, all it takes to get a girl you like is persistence. Familiarity breeds liking; the more time you spend with someone, the greater your relationship becomes and the less important superficial things like looks become.

Just have to stay driven and motivated. If you truly like a girl enough, you'll stop at nothing to get her.

[durendal]

That may hold true if the girl feels a neutrality towards you. Perseverance however is a double edged sword. If you are successful, the girl may see something in you that she has not found before, but if you try to do it in the wrong way, then, the girl will construe your annoyance as stalking and would hate you even more.

[*Youngtusk]

Of course, there is a certain level fo tact involved. But you have to make it clear that you enjoy her company and want to spend time with her. I'm not saying call her everyday and leave her flowers every night. Just show effort.

[Purgstall]

I asked this girl out 3 weeks ago and she said maybe. I have asked her a few times if she had decided yet and she still said that she was thinking about it. I got a feeling that she means no, any suggestions? Here's the history with us: I don't talk a whole lot with her, We did talk quite a bit in Sophomore year and not a whole lot in Junior year. I hardly see her this year, the main time being right after school. I don't talk a whole lot mainly because I like to listen in a conversation and just jump in whenever there is an interesting topic. I kinda realized how much I really like her and care about her shortly after she broke up with her boyfriend last year. I didn't have a job at that point and I wanted to get one before I did so that I could have money. I have turned in several job apps recently because there's very few places to work where we live. I don't talk a whole lot about myself because nobody tries to get know me. For example, I know that she likes to talk about sex and stuff like that and well, I am a kinky guy, but again hardly anybody knows it because they don't ask. <.<

Anywho, any tips?

[durendal]

That's an interesting situation. It will be difficult to give you an exact advice as not all situations are the same. But have you ever considered at how she feels about you? The way she talks to you and the way she acts around you. From that point on you would already know what she's thinking. Perhaps you might want to try a different approach, that instead of asking her out directly, perhaps invite her to do something that would not be considered as a date. Also, how you interact with her depends on what type of person she is. If she doesn't talk a lot, that only means 2 things. One is that she wants you to do the talking and two she feels uncomfortable with you.

Also as you said that she is still thinking about your answer, depends also on what type of person she is. If she is a really nice person, that she may be too shy to tell you no. If on the other hand that she's somewhat frank, she may want to see your perseverance. Again, it all depends on the people involved and the situation given.