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Easily. Adamantium is stated outright to be indestructible, and repeatedly shown to be such in practically all cases. The Hulk cannot break it, Thor could barely dent it by smashing it with Mjölnir and it does not melt even in the core of a star. The only thing that can readily affect adamantium is molecular rearrangement, which in this context is a fairly specific effect of a special device. Ultron created it and uses it to keep his adamantium body from freezing up.

The Guyver armor does not possess sufficient energy output to affect it; the frequency blades disrupt materials by emitting reverbating vibrations which shake molecules apart, but if anything, the feedback might damage the blades.

Vibranium would also be unaffected by the frequency blades because it would simply absorb the vibrations they emit.

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13 hours ago, Salkafar said:

The Guyver armor does not possess sufficient energy output to affect it; the frequency blades disrupt materials by emitting reverbating vibrations which shake molecules apart, but if anything, the feedback might damage the blades.

I'd disagree there with the whole "The Guyver armor does not possess sufficient energy output to affect it". One direct hit by a mega-smasher and Wolverine is nothing but a skeleton. Adamantium or not it's a killing blow. There is no way his healing factor outweighs a Guyvers Mega-smasher. 

The same goes for Sonics. And "Caps shield" would be useless as it doesn't cover his whole body leaving him without legs etc as it doesn't cover his whole body. 

As the for assumption of Hulks strength and Thors hammer = how the Vibration blade works it's not raw power that makes the blade lethal it is because the molecular level it is cutting you apart before the blade even touches you (which is why skilled Guyvers like Guyver 2F can cut parts off an Enzyme 3 and still have her swords in tact but would be in trouble if she gets covered in their blood). 

 

 

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More or less true*, Sully, but we're not discussing hero vs hero but whether the sonic blades can affect adamantium - and I do not believe they can.

You are not entirely right about the raw power: even if the method used to disrupt molecules is not the direct application of raw power, you still need a minimum level of power to induce the molecules to come apart - there is a level of bonding energy to be overcome, after all, and in adamantium this is so high it doesn't melt even in the core of a star; and the frequency blades, or even the gigasmasher, cannot match that level of power.

*Wolverine has been stripped down to his skeleton before, but because his brain is inside his indestructible skull, he still regenerated. Happened during Civil War: Nitro exploded and blasted the flesh clean off his bones.

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1 hour ago, Salkafar said:

Wolverine has been stripped down to his skeleton before, but because his brain is inside his indestructible skull, he still regenerated. Happened during Civil War: Nitro exploded and blasted the flesh clean off his bones.

He has eye sockets, as such his brain wouldn't be protected. That's just bullshit Marvel half thought out comic science. Begin realistic if his brain was cut off behind "indestructible" mettle he'd have being dead long ago due to his blood supply being cut off. Bone isn't like that, it has got pores in it to allow blood flow etc. If its got pores the mega-smasher will find it and where your eyes are is one hell of a large sized pore!

Salkafar it has to be have some logic behind it. Adamantium has to have some means of melting otherwise it would have never bonded with Wolverine in the first place. It has also failed him in the past being removed by Magneto. IF he can do it so can the vibrational sword. 

 

 

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Adamantium never melts. It's an alloy; the components are mixed and after they are properly melded, you have eight minutes to pour it - making sure it stays at at least 1500 F - and after that, it sets no matter the temperature and is indestructible and unfazed by heat from that moment on.

Yes, Wolverine has eye sockets, but your eye sockets do not open directly into your brain; instead, the optic nerve runs through a narrow, curved canal - there is no straight line opening between the outside of the skull and the brain pan.

Your remark about bone being living tissue with blood vessels running through it is absolutely correct; it compelled Marvel to come up with the idea of 'Beta Adamantium', which can bond with organic tissue without impeding its functions.

Technically speaking, Wolverine has been functionally, metaphysically immortal beyond the limits of his healing power for a long time in Marvel comics; he used to struggle with the Angel of Death - yes, literally - every time he was close to death, and won each time. The arrangement was apparently suspended a few years ago.

http://www.cbr.com/wolverine-marc-guggenheim-lazaer-azrael/

And of course it's nonsense, it's superhero comic books. It's no more nonsense than the Guyver - in fact Wolverine and the Guyver have quite a bit in common.

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Seeing that the high frequency blades disrupts the surface of any material that it comes in contacts with and breaks it.  I can honestly see that the high frequency blades would be able to cut adamantium.  It probably won't be able to cut vibranium as that absorbs energy.  So the energy produced by the high frequency blades would probably absorbed by the vibranium.

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On 4/27/2017 at 6:31 PM, Salkafar said:

Easily. Adamantium is stated outright to be indestructible, and repeatedly shown to be such in practically all cases. The Hulk cannot break it, Thor could barely dent it by smashing it with Mjölnir and it does not melt even in the core of a star. The only thing that can readily affect adamantium is molecular rearrangement, which in this context is a fairly specific effect of a special device. Ultron created it and uses it to keep his adamantium body from freezing up.

The Guyver armor does not possess sufficient energy output to affect it; the frequency blades disrupt materials by emitting reverbating vibrations which shake molecules apart, but if anything, the feedback might damage the blades.

Vibranium would also be unaffected by the frequency blades because it would simply absorb the vibrations they emit.

 

Well, there's actually multiple versions of Adamantium... So first you'd have to specify which one you're talking about, the Hulk has broken some versions of it, but they basically mean indestructible by any normal means.  So not actually completely indestructible, just might as well be unless you have god like power...

 

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Adamantium

 

https://www.cbr.com/15-characters-who-broke-adamantium/

 

However, they can all be destroyed with Antarctic Vibranium, which dissolves all metals...

 

 

While Vibranium can absorb energy, it has its limits and can be destroyed if it absorbs too much energy, too quickly...

 

http://www.marveldirectory.com/miscellaneous/vibranium.htm

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