The Relic Ships

[OnyxPhoenix]

Okay, haven't seen a topic for this one anywhere, but since the Relic in Guyver US's movie was used, here we go.

In the movie, Crane and Dr. Edwards have a seismic graph of the ship. They discuss its length, size, and how far its arms reach out. I don't have this particular movie w/ me, but I know they spoke about estimated dimensions from what the graph showed them. Anyone care to speculate just how big or small the other Relic ships in the WG universe are? Shapes, like the War Relic's pyramid dimensions, are mentioned in Time War. Any comments?

Next, just how many Units could Relic ships of those differing sizes hold? I know the Gen found a Uranus ship chock full of Units for them to use and experiment with when they came to Earth in Time War, but exact numbers escape me. Also, the Relic Sean sent into space at the end of Dark Hero was found by Dreadnought, and now resides and protects New Cork, TX. Bet that still holds a lot of Units, and has a Matrix acting alongside the Relic's computers as well.

So, actually a two-part question here. Read and comment as ya'll please. LTR.

[Zoaknight]

Well, if there are more units inside that relic, ya better believe sooner or later Chronos or Zeus Thunderbolt or the ACTF will target it in the hopes of taking said units (Jason may object to such actions though ). Also, given how old the Dark Hero relic is, if there are more units inside, they likely lack the extinction device found in modern Guyver units and thus would be FAR more valuable to would be collectors, but probably doesn't contain any Warrior Guyver Project units.

The Dark Hero relic is smaller than the Ark I imagine, which is like the size of a city or something I think...Don't quote me on this, but I THINK the Dark Hero relic is at least the size of a large building, but exact measurements escape me.

However, I'd like to know if anymore ancient Gen or Uranus ships still lie dormant somewhere on earth waiting to be discovered or if they've all been found by now and thus all the earth factions will have to make due with whatever Gen goodies they currently have in their possession.

Even if no new guyver units are found, it be cool to see another relic perhaps with dormant/sleeping ancient zoanoids or Zoalords onboard. There is also the Eliminator Project started by that Creator known as Gorgon from Time War...No signs of his version of the Eliminator has been discovered yet I think so there's a good chance his relic could be lying around somewhere with units and god knows whats else waiting to be found.

[Sully]

Also, the Relic Sean sent into space at the end of Dark Hero was found by Dreadnought, and now resides and protects New Cork, TX. Bet that still holds a lot of Units, and has a Matrix acting alongside the Relic's computers as well.

Nope, it's the Uranus relic that used to be Under the Chronos base of Arizona that has being captured by Dreadnought. Refered in the books as the largest of all the Relics found.

The Utah Relic has a different story in the Fan-fiction, though it is not a large story at all.

[Juggernought]

I think overall it depends on who grows the relic and for what purpose. If the creator was a scientist he/she would probably have multiple storage capacity in their ships due to the prototypes and other test units they were developing....regular relics probably limited to a few units at best.

[OnyxPhoenix]

Well, if there are more units inside that relic, ya better believe sooner or later Chronos or Zeus Thunderbolt or the ACTF will target it in the hopes of taking said units (Jason may object to such actions though ).

Good thing then, Zoaknight, that Sean sent that Relic into space away from Chronos. Doubtful he can recall it from Earth.

Nope, it's the Uranus relic that used to be Under the Chronos base of Arizona that has being captured by Dreadnought. Referred in the books as the largest of all the Relics found.

Ah, thanks for the correction, Sully. Yep, that one would have a lot to give the good guys, and with Dreadnought in charge of it and its Matrix only obeying him, tough luck for Chronos.

There is also the Eliminator Project started by that Creator known as Gorgon from Time War...No signs of his version of the Eliminator has been discovered yet I think so there's a good chance his relic could be lying around somewhere with units and god knows whats else waiting to be found.

Good point, Zoaknight. That project in the AU produced quite the deadly adversary for Dreadnought and his wife when under influence of the Matrix, but one has to wonder: if the Matrix had not been used by Alkanphel in creating him, would he have been powerful enough to stand toe to toe with Dreadnought? hmmm, film at eleven...

Edited January 26, 2011 by Guest

[Zoaknight]

OnyxPhoenix wrote: Good point, Zoaknight. That project in the AU produced quite the deadly adversary for Dreadnought and his wife when under influence of the Matrix, but one has to wonder: if the Matrix had not been used by Alkanphel in creating him, would he have been powerful enough to stand toe to toe with Dreadnought? hmmm, film at eleven...

Well, since Gorgon's version of the Eliminator was created without the use of a Matrix it is likely a very different being from Alkanphel's Matrix born hunting dog. Gorgon's problem from Time War was that he wanted to create the ultimate weapon on the first go and wasn't willing to work on each individual ability it would possess separately first, like how Solom made all those prototype units like the Shadow Guyver to test the advanced tech that he'd later incorporate into one Warrior unit.

As far as we know Gorgon didn't have access to a Matrix and we don't know what tech he incorporated into his version of the Eliminator, the beast could be identical to Alkanphel's or could be an entirely different breed of creature altogether.

[Juggernought]

I would say Gorgon's eliminator unit would focus more on that Darmon being. Similar to Life Force Guyver but with differences. It wouldn't have an HSL because of its need to feed for energy also due to this it would naturally target guyver like beings who would have the energy needed or any enemy with high bio energy. Since this project was one of the candidates for the ultimate WG unit, he would have similar design specs and abilities but with some changes or mutation that could make the host eliminate an enemy without prejudice. Although its not confirmed there was a preview of a grey unit with clawed fingers that supposedly needs to feed every so often before his unit regresses. This could either be the last prototype from this project or on of the previous ones.

He would not have any of the abilities like the Matrix born Eliminator, maybe a varient or on a much smaller scale but not on the same level.

[OnyxPhoenix]

Is it Gorgon, like Medusa, or Grogan? I've seen conflicting typing for his name.

Still, there are a lot of Relics that have yet to be accounted for. We know Jason took the Uranus Relic. Sho took the one from Mt. Minakami, Gen or Uranus unclear. Chronos got the Nova Relic, and the Nova Flare Unit. CRF got the Black Nova relic, but lost a couple of units to Chronos infiltrators, and got skunked when one of them became the Overlord Nova-class Guyver named Quasar. The War Relic from the Gen got toasted, and its remains are being used to make a second Ark, but its control spheres and its main bridge were used to make Dreadnought, along with the damaged Matrix. Still got Stealth (Shadow) and a bunch of others to go. Feel free to list any that u can think of.

[Sully]

Still got Stealth (Shadow) and a bunch of others to go. Feel free to list any that u can think of.

This will be clearer in the re-write but the Turbo Unit, Battle Unit, and Stealth Unit (shadow Guyver) where all found in the same Relic orgianlly along with the Frist Warrior unit prototype, it's called the Genesis Relic and was the Ship Solom orginally flew to Earth. Primitive Guyver over time moved two Units from that ship but never activated them, he he does have two people working for him that used different Units from another Gen Relic. Chronos also got access to the Ship and took Alkanphel's Unit, Shadow Unit and the Turbo Unit from it (this would be around the time of Union and happens around the same time Jason gets his unit in the rewrite). Other Warrior Prototypes where in the Relic in Pompai too which Krullnar used as his lab to develop the Proto Guyver unit. All these ships are Gen.

Utah Relic = Uranus

Relic Points Relic = Uranus.

[Juggernought]

Everybody got a piece of that Genesis relic man....although you still gotta wonder why agito would leave the relic where it was? Was it unable to move, or was it now just a fossil and unable to revive it self...just had enough systems active to keep its internal systems going.

[Sully]

Everybody got a piece of that Genesis relic man....although you still gotta wonder why agito would leave the relic where it was? Was it unable to move, or was it now just a fossil and unable to revive it self...just had enough systems active to keep its internal systems going.

Agito never finds this Relic, he found Solom's workshop basically. He then takes the main thing this ship has to offer to him, it's Control sphere. He's not going to wait 50+ years afterall to make a Unit.

[OnyxPhoenix]

Okay...

Jenny O'Connor, former Overlord, then Psi-Guyver born w/ Turbo Unit. Shadow Guyver: Chronos top spy. Alkanphel gets Prototype Warrior Unit. Got it. Question: who got the 1st Warrior Prototype, Turbo and Stealth Units out of the Genesis Relic for Chronos, if that was the same one that Jason and Cori were above when she became Battle Guyver and they fought Life-Force Guyver, and the one Agito used later on to become Zeus? Alkanphel, maybe? No, wait, cause that Relic was under Chronos Arizona and Jason escaped in it, and Agito used the one under the temple to create his Gigantic. Right? Need to review my sources.

Okay, Sean sent a Relic back to the Gen or the Uranus (1). Jason stole the Uranus Relic that held the Turbo, Stealth, and 1st Prototype from Chronos Arizona (2). Sho's Uranus Relic was destroyed, but gave birth to Gigantic Guyver (3). Agito used the control sphere of the Genesis Relic of Solom to create his Gigantic, then reburied it or destroyed it, but probably just reburied it. Gen type, I believe (4). Primitive got some units out of a Relic for safe keeping, probably Gen-based. They are probably in the Pompeii Relic, guarded by his cohorts. Pompeii Relic unconfirmed Gen or Uranus (5). Okay, that's what I've got so far. Chime in when u want, gang.

[Sully]

Okay...

Jenny O'Connor, former Overlord, then Psi-Guyver born w/ Turbo Unit. Shadow Guyver: Chronos top spy. Alkanphel gets Prototype Warrior Unit. Got it. Question: who got the 1st Warrior Prototype, Turbo and Stealth Units out of the Genesis Relic for Chronos, if that was the same one that Jason and Cori were above when she became Battle Guyver and they fought Life-Force Guyver, and the one Agito used later on to become Zeus? Alkanphel, maybe? No, wait, cause that Relic was under Chronos Arizona and Jason escaped in it, and Agito used the one under the temple to create his Gigantic. Right? Need to review my sources.

1. The Relic under the Temple was the ship that was Solom's Workshop. The Relic is not named. the 4th Warrior unit Prototype was found here but removed by Primitive Guyver activated years around 2000 years ago. This ship is later Destroyed by Agito who uses it to create the Zeus Cocoon GEN Relic

2. The Genesis Relic even by the time of 7 Days is still under Chronos control. Chronos fought off a Grakken team to get it (this is both the same in the orginal fic and re-write, though in the re-write Chronos fighting off the Grakken is part of the rwason WG had time to from). Of the Units found here. 1 = First Warrior Unit Prototype = Now active on Alkanphel aftern being modified by Natasha. Only Gen unit capable of being bonded with Alkanphel. All known Uranus Units arn't avilable and G1 and G3 aren't about to give them up. 2. Turbo Unit - Taken by Chronos along with 3. the Shadow Unit. 4. The Battle Unit prevously taken by Primitive Guyver hidden along with the lving corpse of the Life Force Guyver inside his Temple. GEN Relic

3. The Utah Relic. Mainly seen in the live Action movie. In the fan-fic this will have a large part to play in the Time War story. It was being hunted by Fulton Balcus at the start of Time War. In part 4 or 5 it will have a key roll to play being the ship that supplys the Units to the Mount Guyver Tribes. Unit's modifed by the Gen so that no Zoalord retreiving them can become another Guyver Zoalord. URANUS Relic.

4. Relics Point - The Relic from the Comics... if you don't know about this ship stop reading my fan-fics and learn about the Guyver story! Uranus Relic

5. "The Sacred Relic of the Uranus". Fossil relic left behind that had turned to Stone. Arionza base built on top of it. In the Fan-Fic it's repaired by the Matrix and captured by Warrior Guyver and used as a means to escape the Arizona base with his sister. Uranus Relic

6. The War Relic. The Ship the Warrior Unit was made on. Grown by Solom for that purpose. Blown up by Alkanphel and merged into what becomes Dreadnought. Most of the reamins are now in the Deadsea being used to make a new Ark. Gen Relic

These are all the ships so far that I have used. I'll leave you guys chat about the Novas

Okay, Sean sent a Relic back to the Gen or the Uranus (1). Jason stole the Uranus Relic that held the Turbo, Stealth, and 1st Prototype from Chronos Arizona (2). Sho's Uranus Relic was destroyed, but gave birth to Gigantic Guyver (3). Agito used the control sphere of the Genesis Relic of Solom to create his Gigantic, then reburied it or destroyed it, but probably just reburied it. Gen type, I believe (4). Primitive got some units out of a Relic for safe keeping, probably Gen-based. They are probably in the Pompeii Relic, guarded by his cohorts. Pompeii Relic unconfirmed Gen or Uranus (5). Okay, that's what I've got so far. Chime in when u want, gang.

1. = Yes thought the ship never left Earth's solar system, Seraph captured it.

2. = No, that ship is dead, if it had units they died too.

3. = the ship's control spheres are in Zeus's head. Ship destroyed.

4. = Nope he got them from the Genesis Relic.

5. = Pompeii Relic has units so far not featured in my story. But Allen gave a nice hint.

[OnyxPhoenix]

(licks his hungry chops)

....sweet....

Okay, I'm clear that the Relic Agito found is gone. Its control spheres were used to make his Zeus module, then he got rid of it. Done. The Utah Relic is the one Sean sent back into space from the live action movie, was the one that gave the Mount Guyver clans their Units, and then was captured by Seraph before it could leave the solar system. Got it.

Next, 1st prototype Warrior Unit, Turbo Unit, Battle Unit, and Stealth Unit aboard the Genesis Relic. Battle Unit and some other Units taken by Primitive for safe keeping from Genesis Relic. Chronos retrieved Turbo, Stealth, and Prototype #1 for themselves (who did that deed?), only to later lose Turbo Unit to ACTF. Also, 4th Warrior Prototype taken by Primitive as well from Solom's workshop Relic. Okay.

Then, the Sacred Relic is the one WG escaped in and left in orbit around Pluto. The Gen and Seraph attempted to gain access, and were denied by the Matrix within it. That Relic then teleported back to Earth per WG's call and made a very large pancake and crater out of the Chronos branch in New Cork, TX. Natch.

Lastly, Locations!

a) Temple Relic - Pacific Ocean (?), now destroyed

b) Genesis Relic - not sure , still under Chronos' control

c) Sacred Relic - New Cork, under Dreadnought's control

d) Utah Relic - captured by Seraph, under Gen control now

e) Primitive Guyver's Relic - Pompeii (more than one?)

Hope I did ok, boss.

[Sully]

Yup that is correct, that would be the current Relics in the WG storyline that I've used so far.

Genesis Relic won't have a major role later in the stories. Though I will confrim now it no longer has any dormant units inside it. One thing to note the GuyverC standard Unit also came from there removed by Chronos.

This excludew the Nova Project, not because they aren't there or anything like that, it's just as I don't write about them often it's not something I recall right away without doing some research.

[McAvoy]

Well, we got the new War Relics from the new rerwrite of the Time War Part 2. Unless of course the Guyver Zoalord destroys them. I mean their own Warrior units were complete by the time of the creation of the Guyver Zoalord. Obviously those ships did not leave Earth since the Gen do not have Warrior Guyver technology. So either they are destroyed or they are still out there waiting to be discovered.

Unless it is changed but I think no one on Earth knows about those Relics or if they did they do not know where it is at all.