Anti-Lycanlord Zoanoid Theories and Debate

[Zoaknight]

The Lycanlords of the Order of Anubis were created to be primitive but brutal monsters well adapted to fighting and killing even advanced zoaforms like the Jytaki and Orobouros of the Gen Empire, playing a major hand in the downfall of said empire and making hell for the struggling AAR. Now, assuming Zagam doesn't succeed in his current infiltration mission, Albass' new allies, two of the last three remaining Gen in the W'kar universe, may provide her with advanced technology which may enable her to develop new zoaforms better able to combating the Lycanlords of Anubis. If so, what in your opinion would be valuable additions to an anti-Lycanlord zoaform? We can at least make educated guesses based on what we've seen the Gen's Jytaki and the AAR's Zoagods do over the course of the fanfics, plus what little we know of the Lycanlords and their abilities from their datafile http://www.warriorguyver.com/gwotg/index.htm

Personally, I think the Lycanlord's need to eat and devour their prey to keep functioning is both their strength and their weakness, if the AAR could develop a zoanoid capable of producing an effect similar to Enzyme's acidic blood then that would effectively counter the Lycanlord's predatory tactics. To take it another step further, said zoaform could also be equipped with bio missiles filled with the same venom/enzyme, so they could blast away at Lycanlords from a distance as well (Sully suggested this idea for my Anti-Libertus zoanoid data file a while back, haven't had time to use it for a bio yet). We know from the manga that bio missiles can penetrated force fields if they're of the drill bit design, so they could theoretically penetrate the body shield produced by the cells of the Lycanlords, the very source of their durability. I picture the ideal Anti-Lycanlord zoanoid being a cross between Zoagod and Jytaki biotechnology, plus the previously mentioned abilities.

What other possible adaptations could the AAR implement to create a Zoa soldier capable of holding their own against the Lycanlords?

Edited January 25, 2011 by Guest

[Primitive]

Simply put Zoaforms are just out of commish in GWTG, due to their lack of regen. and other abilities that increase their chances of surviving conflicts. Well that's my take of the situation...

However, if one must hope... Is to upgrade the Zoaforms to about Kron's power and just simply start cranking them out billions by billions. Lycanlords have the advantage on just sheer numbers of anything that the aar could possibly account for.

[Zoaknight]

Primitive wrote: Simply put Zoaforms are just out of commish in GWTG, due to their lack of regen. and other abilities that increase their chances of surviving conflicts. Well that's my take of the situation...

However, if one must hope... Is to upgrade the Zoaforms to about Kron's power and just simply start cranking them out billions by billions. Lycanlords have the advantage on just sheer numbers of anything that the aar could possibly account for.

Recent events in the manga and the knowledge of the Gen could solve the regenerative problem though, and they'd be easier to guide & keep in touch with during battle than an army of guyvers.

But yeah, your right about amping up their power levels to Master Zoalord levels and producing as much as possible.

[Juggernought]

Amping up their power is one thing but remember that the Lycanlords are pure instinct, viciously brutal and visceral in their effectiveness....How can you compete against a being that is coming at you with no remorse, no fear and nothing holding it back. It's main goal to tear you apart, eat you and get stronger to move on and do the same thing to your friend....The AAR will be hard pressed to defeat guys like this. They need to stop thinking and get brutal themselves but of course that raises the issue if that will make them similar to their enemy or keep them apart.

[*zeo]

Instinct can have its downside as well if not balanced by intelligence and team work... So they basically need a good plan, don't try to attack directly, divide and conquer type theme...

[Zoaknight]

In that case, advanced Zoa soldiers with new and improved Jytaki enhanced Zoalords/Zoagods to guide them may stand a chance against the brutal but otherwise mindless beasts, like the Libertus guided by Griselda. They're well organized, brutal, and efficient.

Also, I forget, how many W'kar reproductions still live on the AAR's side? Deus was killed "offscreen" I think, as were Temporal W'Kar and Necro...Is Warrior Ninja still alive and kicking? At any rate, Albass needs stronger troops she and her staff can personally supervise telepathically from anywhere on the battlefield, when Greg returns he can whip the Guyver troopers into shape personally while Albass handles her Zoas, and leads them the ways she wants to, I have enjoyed seeing her rule Kronos in her own way, respecting her father's memory but following her own path and moral compass.

Regardless of what they do, it won't be easy to combat Anubis's minions, but they can't give up or roll over and die either, gotta use whatever knowledge those two Gen give them to enhance their Zoanoid AND Guyver forces, variety is a good thing and breeds strength and diversity...Right now, its an arms race, gotta improve their troops if they wanna stay in the game and win.

[McAvoy]

Dues is alive.

Anyway Lycanlords are not that remarkable. They are really nothing more than strong close combat near mindless zoanoids. Dreadnought remarked that keeping them at a distance is the best way to deal with them.

Lycanlords are best in sheer weight of numbers. Also remember that they are primarily anti Jy-Taki so Guyver or zoalords are the best against them..

The way I look at it is something like WGV but does't have to be as strong. Just powerful enough to kill Lycanlords from a distance and has rapid fire to keep up with the Lycanlords numbers. They don't have to be strong just a powerful bio blaster type.

I'm thinking of the Libertus Mode B type but those bladders being mega smasher level.

[Zoaknight]

McAvoy wrote: Dues is alive.

Anyway Lycanlords are not that remarkable. They are really nothing more than strong close combat near mindless zoanoids. Dreadnought remarked that keeping them at a distance is the best way to deal with them.

Lycanlords are best in sheer weight of numbers. Also remember that they are primarily anti Jy-Taki so Guyver or zoalords are the best against them..

The way I look at it is something like WGV but does't have to be as strong. Just powerful enough to kill Lycanlords from a distance and has rapid fire to keep up with the Lycanlords numbers. They don't have to be strong just a powerful bio blaster type.

I'm thinking of the Libertus Mode B type but those bladders being mega smasher level.

I'm in complete agreement about the design and power output of the Zoa Smashers, and I'd actually been considering such a design for another fanmade zoanoid datafile I'd been planning.

However, don't Lycanlords also possess somesort of natural body shield like the Jytaki? I think every cell of their body gives off a bio energy shield or something that increases their durability past what it normally should be, which is why i initially thought a zoaform equipped with bio missiles like Aptom's or Kahn's would be ideal for just punching through said defenses and blasting them apart.

And blowing them away from a distance makes the most sense, but ya also gotta factor in that those Lycanlords can or will eventually get up close and personal, so then said zoaform must have at somesort of melee capability as well.

Perhaps...

1) a number of high frequency or bio swords capable of hacking up Lycanlords up close, ideally two or three per forearm and one on each foot/heel so they can literally hack and slash the enemy every which way

2) advanced healing factor ala Aptom/Kahn/Enzyme 3

3) heat resistance, like Derzerb or Elegan, especially Elegan actually since Lycanlord claws & teeth generate electricity for burning through flesh and bone.

Also, said zoaform would need great stamina so it can continuously fire on the enemy forces without tiring out too soon, perhaps with elegan type power cells or ambient energy absorption like Zektole.

[McAvoy]

Sounds good though I'd only place maybe one or two vibrational swords on him. I notice that sometimes people go overboard with their Guyver and Zoaform designs. Basically putting a ton of abilities on such a being. I mean Neo Zektole was a Lost Number because he had all of the abilities of Team Five.

Also such a zoaform as we have to discuss cannot be a mere hyper zoanoid but a zoalord of some sort. It would have to be mass producable as well. So ti have to have disadvantages as well such as inferior strength like let's say 200 men and maybe limited agility. Durability would have to be standard. You could say the shields would be pretty good if these anti Lycanlord Zoalords refocus thier blaster energy into the shields.

I was also thinking of smaller energy weapons like lasers for more pinpoint firing.

[Zoaknight]

McAvoy wrote: Sounds good though I'd only place maybe one or two vibrational swords on him. I notice that sometimes people go overboard with their Guyver and Zoaform designs. Basically putting a ton of abilities on such a being. I mean Neo Zektole was a Lost Number because he had all of the abilities of Team Five.

Also such a zoaform as we have to discuss cannot be a mere hyper zoanoid but a zoalord of some sort. It would have to be mass producable as well. So ti have to have disadvantages as well such as inferior strength like let's say 200 men and maybe limited agility. Durability would have to be standard. You could say the shields would be pretty good if these anti Lycanlord Zoalords refocus thier blaster energy into the shields.

I was also thinking of smaller energy weapons like lasers for more pinpoint firing.

Good point, extra abilities are better left for specialized warriors like the Twelve Supreme Zoalords of Chronos or Anubis's Generals rather than for an entire production line of zoanoids created to fight a specific enemy. Lets see, how about one of these for possible designs?

Design 1:

A) One pair of high frequency swords on each arm for close range combat in the event a Lycanlord gets past firepower and shields

B) Libertus type energy Zoa Smashers for blowing away large amounts of enemies, general mass destruction

C) pinpoint accuracy laser beams housed in both the forearms, legs, and zoa crystal, less powerful than shoulder cannons but use up less energy and rabid firing

Design 2:

A) A single, supremely powerful Zoacrystral beam cannon in the forehead, long range and very destructive, similar in design to the Supreme Zoalord Sin Rubeo Amniculus

B) Shoulder mounted bio missiles launchers, use up little bio energy but drillbit design and extreme explosive power and numbers can punch through the body shields of Lycanlords to blow em apart while Zoacrystal cannon recharges

C) Large horn in center of forehead just like Sin, only its a high frequency weapon similar to what Kahn used when he took over Aptom's body, used for ramming the enemy or just impaling them if they get too close, like a Rhino

In either case, the Anti-Lycan Zoalord design in question would need powerful shielding, heat resistance, regenerative abilities, and the ability to recharge quickly to hold its own defensively against a lycan, be it via Elegan type power cells or the ability to draw ambient energy from its surroundings. Or, perhaps it could rely on a Duo Zoacrystal Power System similar to Griselda's, Japan Legend claims she has two dummy crystals in her chest and forehead, and Alkanphel has multiple Zoacrystals. Perhaps this new Zoaform could have two crystals to double its energy or something.

[McAvoy]

Sounds good to me. The problem I see with missiles is the reload. Even Aptom has use his own bio mass to create new ones. How would the new ones be made in a good amount of time?

Well single or multiple zoacrystal design would depend which looks better I think in a drawing.

[Zoaknight]

McAvoy wrote: Sounds good to me. The problem I see with missiles is the reload. Even Aptom has use his own bio mass to create new ones. How would the new ones be made in a good amount of time?

Well single or multiple zoacrystal design would depend which looks better I think in a drawing.

Hhhhmmm, gotta a point there, took that for granted, when I think Bio Missiles I usually think back to Aptom's fight with Neo Zektole or the big incident with Dragonlord Kahn, guess i just figured zoanoids with regenerative capabilities would be able to reload faster without difficulties. So maybe the bio missiles shouldn't be his secondary weapon afterall, unless ya think the zoaform in question being equal in size to a Zoagod or Ouroboros would give it enough bio mass to do the job? Plus the regenerative factor? http://www.mangafox.com/manga/guyver/v25/c000/93.html

If not, bio lasers and gravity sphere based weaponry, classic Zoalord arsenal, would probably be best (more powerful though of course), ya did warn me against over complicating its design "scratches chin deep in thought" . Alas, I'm not much of an artist, especially not when dealing with creatures as fantastically complicated as Zoanoids and Guyvers

[McAvoy]

Remember that Zoagods are in fact more powerful standard Zoalords. It would take two to three to take down a Jy-Taki. I'd assume it would take one or two to take down a Lycanlord. However there are not enough Zoagods to put up with the tens or hundreds of millions of Lycanlords.

I think the Bio Blaster version of a Zoagod would do best.

[OnyxPhoenix]

Not to mention finding the resources and time to put all of those armies together to stand against the Order. Time is against them and then some.

By the by, McAvoy, thanks for the heads-up that Deus is still alive in GWOTG. He's a powerhouse now compared to what he once was, and for him to go down like I though he had, was very anti-climatic. Shoot, he came back from being eaten by an Azathoth. Don't ya think fate has some ideas in store for him?

[McAvoy]

By the by, McAvoy, thanks for the heads-up that Deus is still alive in GWOTG. He's a powerhouse now compared to what he once was, and for him to go down like I though he had, was very anti-climatic. Shoot, he came back from being eaten by an Azathoth. Don't ya think fate has some ideas in store for him?

I do and personally I want to see a fight between Dues and Zagam. Those two are practically equal.