McAvoy Posted January 4, 2010 Posted January 4, 2010 Something I wondered for alittle while was the W'Kar upgrade. At first I thought it was like the Gigantic where it bio boosted the host unit. But more I thought about it the more I started to think that it could be a really powerful Aceaer unit where it adds it's power to the host unit not multiply. Of course I do not think you can wear it as a human without the unit. Take for example XT and Ninja Guyver. If it multiplies the their base power then Warrior XT would be on the level of Dues but Warrior Ninja would be half as powerful as she is consistently protrayed. XT at the time was 10x and Ninja is not much more powerful as a Gigantic. in order to give Warrior Ninja being around her 18x level then Warrior XT would be around 90x. Way too powerful for even Gigantic Energy Guyver. So I think it adds give or take 1600 men other abilities to the host unit. This would fit with Warrior Ninja and would make Warrior XT at an acceptable level. Granted since the first Warrior upgrade was created off of the remains from the original Ninja Guyver unit, that when the Jessica wears it she could have a bigger boost than XT due to the closer bond to the upgrade. Also I believe that the regeneration factor boosts but not multiplies. XT at the time had at best half of that of a normal Guyvers but Ninja Guyver would have at least equal to a Gigantic. Warrior XT was suprised on how fast he was regenerating but if Warrior Ninja had a similar boost she may exceed W'Kar himself. In other words I think the upgrade basically adds the power of W'Kar to the host unit. What do you think? Quote
Juggernought Posted January 4, 2010 Posted January 4, 2010 I suspect so as well, or it could also just a be an upgrade that ridiculously side steps the power limit of most units and boosts them to the point of their utmost and as a side effect they have W'kar like abilities...afterall the name does mean power. Quote
McAvoy Posted January 4, 2010 Author Posted January 4, 2010 Probably not. We do know that standard units even Warrior units mainly rely on the control medals to regulate their power whereas W'Kar units rely on their armor to regulate their armor. So if the armor was a addon, it would make sense, especially if their is no control medal layer or whatever present on the upgrade itself. Quote
Juggernought Posted January 4, 2010 Posted January 4, 2010 The added hyperspace orb should help augment it as well, it would give them a direct link to hyperspace for accessible power to power weapon systems or any ability that is unique to the unit. Maybe that was one of the advantages or purposes of the upgrade, to give the user warrior like capabilities but having it based on w'kar tech would enable it to produce more power than rely on technology alone. Quote
*zeo Posted January 6, 2010 Posted January 6, 2010 Alternatively, it could be just providing a specific modification to the host unit. So regardless of host characteristics it would provide only a specific boost. Instead of adapting to the host characteristics. Not the same as an Aceaer that just adds but instead provides a specific modification with a set consistent result. Quote
Sully Posted January 6, 2010 Posted January 6, 2010 I only got HD TV this year!!!! (only 5 months ago) I'll not be getting 3D tv for 5 years Quote
Juggernought Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 I only got HD TV this year!!!! (only 5 months ago) I'll not be getting 3D tv for 5 years Lol, um shouldn't this be in the Avatar topic? Quote
McAvoy Posted January 7, 2010 Author Posted January 7, 2010 Alternatively, it could be just providing a specific modification to the host unit. So regardless of host characteristics it would provide only a specific boost. Instead of adapting to the host characteristics.Not the same as an Aceaer that just adds but instead provides a specific modification with a set consistent result. I have thought about this. Basically bringing including XT to a 16-18x level, so that even a standard Guyver when using the Warrior upgrade to 16x. It makes sense because like I said a W'Kar's armor regulates it's power and it merged with the host much more than a Guyver unit. If this Warrior upgrade also does this, than the armor itself will handle the extra power but still has a limit of what it can handle. Which is why Warrior Ninja exhausts herself completely after going into Warrior Rage. Quote
Juggernought Posted March 21, 2010 Posted March 21, 2010 So then ultimately it is the unit itself that acts as the limiter? What do you suppose would happen if W'kar or any repoduction unit activates the upgrade? Quote
McAvoy Posted March 22, 2010 Author Posted March 22, 2010 Think of it as a extremely powerful Aceaer. if it adds it's power to the host unit, then the Reproductions would have their power for example Dues would be from 60x to 72x. Because of their W'Kar design they may be able to get some more power added. Remember the W'Kar upgrade was primarly used by Ninja Guyver, who's own unit is the same as the W'Kar upgrade (the upgrade itself was built from the remains of the original Ninja Guyver's unit). She was considered while using the upgrade to be about equal to W'Kar himself though with stamina limitations. In the battle with the Guyver Darkness (Guyver Proto Zoalord) she was stated to have a Bio Level of 20,000 with a Warrior Rage max. of 60,000. W'Kar averages 18,000 with a normal max. of 27,000 and a absolute Warrior Rage max. of 65,000. Warrior Ninja was also stated directly that she is about 18x to 20x if memory serves. If we knew how powerful Gigantic Energy Guyver was then we could get a good estimate of how powerful Warrior XT was. I may have to dig that up. But assuming the above Warrior XT was 26x with a noticeble regneration enhancement. My personal theory is that the upgrade for example was used on Guyver 1 would basically be a 16 to 17x Warrior Guyver 1 with comparable abilities to W'Kar himself but perhaps slightly inferior. I don't think the Gigantic unit could be used at the same time. Quote
xiongjohn Posted June 18, 2010 Posted June 18, 2010 i was thinking for a bit, but thought if Dreadnought or matrix warrior guyver had a chance encounter to acquire an W'Kar upgrade module like ninja guyver. with the matrix enhancement and the fact that his warrior unit is of different universe technology, would he still be able to use the upgrade module and if did then what kind of power up do you guys think he would get? I was guessing around 3x to 5x his matrix warrior guyver form. Adding the w'kar abilities but near a true w'kar level around that power level. just my two cents... Quote
guyverfanatic Posted June 18, 2010 Posted June 18, 2010 i was thinking for a bit, but thought if Dreadnought or matrix warrior guyver had a chance encounter to acquire an W'Kar upgrade module like ninja guyver. with the matrix enhancement and the fact that his warrior unit is of different universe technology, would he still be able to use the upgrade module and if did then what kind of power up do you guys think he would get? I was guessing around 3x to 5x his matrix warrior guyver form. Adding the w'kar abilities but near a true w'kar level around that power level. just my two cents... I dunno, if that would work because of two differing technologies. It would probably have be merged with the host unit in order to work. Quote
McAvoy Posted June 19, 2010 Author Posted June 19, 2010 Possibly. Or it could be that they are incompatible because of different types of control medals. Or that there is a absolute limit to which the W'Kar upgrade can enhance the host unit to. Example: Lollipop Guyver has the strength of 2,000 men and the W'Kar upgrade can only upgrade to a max of 2,500 men, an increase of 25%. Whereas Guyver Gumdrop has a strength of 200 men but is upgraded to 1,800 men for a full 900%. Quote
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