Enforcer Prometheus?

[McAvoy]

Let's say that instead an Enforcer Kavzar was sent instead of a Commander Kavzar to combat the Hunter. The battle is over like before and like before the Hunter shoves the Enforcer Kavzar crystal into Greg's forehead. Matrix does its thing and we have a new Prometheus.

How powerful is Enforcer Prometheus and do you think the Enforcer Kavzar can recover with it's main crystal gone but still has it's secondary?

Ignore the obvious whether it would be possible if the Hunter can actually do that to a Enforcer Kavzar.

[Juggernought]

I think an Enforcer type Prometheus would be near the healed Alkanphel power levels and with the new weaponry he could easily be the most powerful being on the planet; leaving out W'kar of course who could potentially rival anyone over time.

The dual control medal could serve a double function, 1 for power regulation the other as a back up in case one gets totally destroyed and unable to escape into hyper space the other one has all the back up data on the host, and the organism, would make it's escape to hyperspace before being detected.

It could also be possible that Greg Howzer also retains that ability to absorb components of the control medal into himself, just like when he was damaged as proto guyver; either until the control medal recovers or it transforms him into something else.

[McAvoy]

Well I don't think he'll be that powerful. Rememeber that a Commander Kavzar is 8x and Prometheus is 10x, but more or less equal to one another. One's stronger, the other has better shields and so forth.

It's possible that the 2x difference is actually Greg Howzer's power, so a Enforcer Kavzar could be 27x or if it is a 25% increase then 31 to 32x.

[Sully]

Don't think it would actually work has easily has that. The Enforcers creation process takes the resorces of a whole War World to create, bond and process and takes AGES to make right. While the result would be powerful than what would have happened with the commander I don't think the net result would have being greater than a true Enforcer and not in a scale that would match it easily.

[WarriorZoalord]

Don't think it would actually work has easily has that. The Enforcers creation process takes the resorces of a whole War World to create, bond and process and takes AGES to make right. While the result would be powerful than what would have happened with the commander I don't think the net result would have being greater than a true Enforcer and not in a scale that would match it easily.

true, but then again, it's possible of course the matrix works its magic to make up for those shortcomings... after all, if it made a normal warrior guyver at base powerlevel as strong as a warrior kavzar, who knows what it'd do with an enforcer unit if it got... creative.

[McAvoy]

I don't think it would be as easy as how Prometheus was created. I personally think a Enforcer Prometheus would be around between 16x to 20x, with weaker shields but immense firepower. That's only because the technology within the Enforcer Kavzar requires two control crystals to control it's power. Obviously Prometheus wouldn't have two.

Also anything is possible if the Matrix had time to what it needed to do, but time is what Greg Howzer did not have. He needed to defeat the Hunter now, not after a week in a cocoon.

[Sully]

To put it into perspective. IF the Matrix and time wasn't a factor was involed you could take a rat and turn it into an an Eliminator using only raw materials of cave slime. Would take ages but that's the point of the Matrix.

The main reason the Matrix uses parts of Relics, Guyver units etc is because it speeds things up greatly allowing it to complete it's goal (whomever gave it that goal).

[WarriorZoalord]

Well, from what i remember, Proto-guyver already had part of a CM in it since it absorbed part of its old control Crystal... so i figured it would just use said peices to create the secondary control medal... giving it nearly the equivilant of an enforcer.

[McAvoy]

Perhaps, or it was used as a secondary power management system within the armor itself so that Promethues could be 10x not 8x like a Kavzar Commander.

We can figure that at least one of the Enforcer Kavzar's control crystals is more powerful than a Commander's, and is also much larger. Even if we assume that Promtheus stays the same power level he will at least retain the Enforcer Kavzar's auto escape system like the Warrior Guyvers. Maybe a limited Gravity Shield.

[Sully]

He's be more powerful alright than what he is now and has McAvoy said would get some added features. But given the amount of time the Matrix had it wouldn't be greater than the Enforcer once was.

If time wasn't a factor though yes Promtheus would basically be an alternative version of the Enforcer. Most likely the same power level but smaller and more compact do to the Matrix's more advanced nature.

[largo]

If time wasn't a factor would the matrix most likely turn him in to something like a Warrior Enforcer because almost all of the upgrades we have seen it do normally give that person warrior unit like abilities.

[Juggernought]

I don't think it would do that necessarily....I think Prometheus got that Commander upgrade because at the time it was the easiest accessible resource to use. Also Greg Howzer's original unit was in many ways similar to the Kavzar design so why not choose a similar route to increase the power instead going the other way?

[McAvoy]

Well, it was a combination of things that caused Greg to become Prometheus. It was the control crystal being shoved into his forehead by the Hunter. It was his own unit that was similar (more primitive prototype to the Kavzar). It was the Matrix needing to as little as much because of the urgency (probably what it felt from Greg because the Hunter is alive).

Give the same scenario, and that Enforcer Control Crystal might let's say give him 12x to 14x in power instead of 10x. Not much a huge increase.

On top of that, the Enforcer Kavzar may be able to recover from the loss too though he would have needed time. In which case, between when Promtheus killed Hunter the first time and the combination of Ultimus and Prometheus killing him for the final time, well that might be enough time for the Enforcer Kavzar to recover.

[gelionlegends]

With the Enforcer Prometheus i would think that with only one control medal fully merged properly he would have to modes as unless the matrix enhances the control medal to handle the power or makes it into a duel or having something up to the level of a warrior guyvers control medal. This i mean having not one processer like a standard or two or three but four.

So maybe the Matrix using the control medal fully merges the control medal with the zoacrystal and then splits it and merges the second half with the enforcer crystal. Thus making a similar to the enforcer kavzar though with some of the weapons and such being useable but once the battle is finished i would think the new enforcer prometheus would need to go into the cocoon to fully transform to both handle the power going through the body.

Though what my first idea was when reading this was he would have two modes one the attack mode and the other the defence mode. By this he has to make a choice and which ever he chooses he sacrefices power to the other systems so defence his weapons get weaker but his defence systems become much, much stronger to use.

This doesn't mean he can't use his defences or weapons just depending in which mode he is in that one of these will be weaker.

But given the chance and what i said about the control medal being split this would i think either stay in one place or moved like the enforcers own and placed somewhere else to better protect it from destruction or damage.

Though when i think about the placement when having two i am more inclined to think that having two is so that the enforcer can continue its mission if one is damaged but can be repaired, not just a power regulater. Possibly able to regenerate the destroyed control crystal though maybe only when not in battle maybe in hyperspace or in a tank on the advent worlds.

[McAvoy]

There wasn't much time for the Matrix to create anything too fancy. Hell, if the Matrix really had time, it could have made Greg into a Warrior Kavzar Enforcer.