Movies vs Mangas/Animes

[*zeo]

Who wants to discuss the differences between the live action movies and the Mangas/Animes?

Who do you think will win and why in a fight between Guyver Zoanoid and Guyver 2?

[Resurrected1]

I would say the Guyver 2 would have t hands down. To me Risker just had more control over his units abilities and had a high combat ability. Cain, was a lot more wild and off the wall once he merged with his unit. I mean running at your opponent on your hands . . . .really not a normal or very tactical move. Not to mention it seemed cains unit was a little more damaged than Riskers. He had spasms throughout the fight while risker (depending on which animated version you go by) seemed relatively stable until he over did it with energy consumption.

[WarriorZoalord]

well, if GZ wasnt into toying with his enemyies so much, i would say him, because he would be a lot more powerful than guyver 2.

[McAvoy]

Guyver 2 is the superior fighter since he was undergoing the training to become a Hyper Zoanoid. Guyver Zoanoid was already a zoanoid and may be a low level zoanoid at that. On the other hand, Guyver Zoanoid did seem to be stronger than the movie Guyver. Both are damaged and depending which version of the Guyver 2 either the anime or manga it could go either way.

One thing I did notice with the movies over the manga everything from the Guyver and Zoanoids are far weaker than they should be. The only impressive display of strength was when the Darzerb looking zoanoid in the second movie ripped that tree in half and the Guyver literally crushing that zoanoid's head breaking it's arms. I suppose you could always say that the zoanoids the movie Guyver were fighting were Hyper Zoanoids optimized for strength.

Mostly, the movie just shows the limitations of a low budget and non-CGI heavy effects movie can be (that it they're getting old too.)

The movie Guyver also seems to be more 'mechanical' than the manga version is, with the sound effects and it seems to be literally just a payer of armor as opposed to what we know now of the bio boost process does to the host body. The mega smashers seems to be less powerful overall as well in both movies unless the Relic is significantly more durable than the manga version.

The Relic itself carries far more Guyver units than it's manga counterpart as well. There could have been dozens of them at one point. Zoanoids also can be fossilized as well. This could be explained that Chronos designed the zoanoids to dissolve when dead as opposed to the Creator made ones don't. Zoanoids also seem to be tailor made for each person as well. Zoalord leadership is entirely different from the manga version. Not to mention their design...

[Guyver_Astray]

A more modernised version of the movies would probably be done much closer to how things are portrayed in the manga. But actually trying to make a live action version of the manga and not something with it's OCs. (Though I personally didn't mind Sean's character in the second movie. Much cooler.) CGI is much better these days so we'd see what we liked to see. That is if the right director and or script writer got the go-ahead. Wrong guy would totally ruin it.

G2 would win over GZ for mostly the whole control factor. And training.

G1 against GS, I'm not sure of. I don't think the two would fight off the bat. Maybe a missunderstanding starts a fight before they both realise that they're on the same side and stop. As horrible as the first movie was, Sean looked more to having a combat history taking a martial arts class of some kind to back up his abilities with the Guyver. Sho on the other hand didn't seem to have any as far as I know. He mostly relied on the Guyver's abilities and power. It's really a toss up. While Sean, combat wise, seems to have more experiance, Sho has a better understanding of the Guyver's abilities. As far as we know, Sean doesn't even know he can fly!

[*zeo]

I mean running at your opponent on your hands . . . .really not a normal or very tactical move.

Matter of perspective, in martial arts flashy moves are often used for distractions. Like pretending to be drunk, or acting like a monkey, etc. The hand stand is usually a defensive move since it allows you to quickly counter your opponent's moves and thus throw them off balance and martial arts is mostly about having more balance than your opponent. Course the running part is not normal but then again Guyver's don't have to follow normal rules of gravity like the rest of us.

That said, a literal comparison between the movies and the anime/manga isn't easy since the premise of both is not exactly the same. The movie was more of a Chi Bio-Booster and less Bio-Booster. The Zoanoids themselves were not designed but rather randomly generated with abilities dependant on how being processed effected them.

So even though the Guyver Unit may not be as powerful as the anime/manga version the zoanoids it had to face weren't as powerful as the manga/anime version so it all evened out.

Now for the fan fiction we just changed it so both the zoanoids and Guyver unit were the same type as the anime/manga and made comparisons based on that change.

The thing to remember is Risker may have been more skilled but he also did not master his unit, because frankly he didn't live long enough to know what the Guyver is fully capable of. So in a face off between him and GZ would have both a little handicaped.

In many respects then we can compare how well Sean handled GZ to how well Risker would. Given an equal difference in raw power, Sean was better trained at combat then Sho. So some parallels could be made with his performance and how Risker would have handled GZ.

The question then is do you think Risker is good enough a fighter to compensate for the power difference a GZ would have over a standard Guyver?

[McAvoy]

Based on how well Guyver Sean did against the Guyver Zoanoid, I would say that Risker being better trained than either Guyver Sean or the Guyver Zoanoid, it might be a close match. Guyver Zoanoid seemed to have some combat training but it seemed that in an even fight, Guyver Sean was superior. Maybe it was because Guyver Sean was much more familiar with the armor and devleoped some moves specially for the armor. His skill with the virbrational swords seemed to be impressive. He was matching Guyver Zoanoid's two vs. his one for awhile.

But like I said, it depends on which version of Guyver 2 we are talking about. The anime one seemed have far more problems than the manga version.

[Juggernought]

I think that GZ and Guyver Sean may have seemed similar in power because GZ was just toying with him in the beginning so wasn't really trying to kill him just make him suffer. Eventually he would have got bored with the game and finished it off if Corrie hadn't blasted his CM.

I do think Risker has enough skill on hand to still go toe to toe with the Guyver Zoanoid. He was trained to be a hyper zoanoid after all. However both of them were pretty much new at the whole guyver thing so only knew the absolute basic things about the armor that were obvious...between the both of them they knew about the head beam, swords, mega smasher, and of course the abvious power boost.