What if... something

[McAvoy]

Let's say that the three Japanese Guyver units found are in fact Warrior Guyver units. Assuming that the Relic is in fact a Relic with a pyramid control medal type. The second unit is damaged as originally. Timeline is the same as before.

1. Assume they are Type 1 units. How would the timeline differ?

2. Assume they are Type 2 units. Again how will it differ from above?

[Spartan Warlord]

i would have to say if they were WG units then chronos japan would have had major problems...i dont think Murakami would have been turned...buh Alk would have definately got involed alot sooner...potentially if the timeline didnt change that much sho might have even got a WG giantic upgrade...really and truely they could have destoryed most of chronos japan as they would have caught them on their ass because at the point the zoanoids they had would be like fleas to them

[McAvoy]

Well I mean timeline as how it started. I highly doubt it would have stayed exactly the same. The Enzymes would have been nothing to them, so in reality Sho might have been able to at least figure out early on with his Dad that it was a lost cause. Aptom would have been out classed as well in the beginning. Commander Guyot might not have wanted to engage Murakami and (Warrior) Guyver 3 on his own either. Hyper Zoanoid Team Five would have been slaughtered early on in their first eno****er with (Warrior) Guyver 3 as well, so Aptom would have never gotten his huge leaps in power.

Alkanphel could have gotten involved but let's remember that it was stated at leats two times that he would have gotten killed by two Warrior Guyvers at this point in time.

Assuming that (Warrior) Guyver 1 gets the Warrior Gigantic cocoon, then it is safe to say that Chronos might be at the point of total collapse. Or at least at a point where they may never recover.

Hell, if we assume that Guyver US is a Warrior Guyver as well, it would definitely turn the tide as well.

[WarriorZoalord]

I do believe WG CM's can repair themselves, though at a much slower rate than without the help of equipment, considering WG Overloaded his, meaning he ended up frying the insides, but it repaired itself, and i think lorcans CM also took minor damage to cause him toe revert back to "Jacan" as i'd like to refer to him, but within a few weeks lorcan was back to his normal self, so it's quiet possible that Risker might not have been so easily beaten by Sho.

[Juggernought]

Lorcan's unit was a copy so the dna from the original host just got scrambled with his own. At best i believe a chronos warrior guyver 2 would have behaved much like the regular guyver 2 but without the power surges as the unit would make attempts to either shut down some power systems to prevent such an overload or not activate at all until the repairs were completed. Also i believe Agito would have acted sooner in his plan to dominate but would have had to take additional steps to make sure he can manipulate Sho to do what he wants and not act out against him.

Considering for a time, the guyvers had no idea Chronos extended across the world, Alkanphel might have forced everyone to abandon that branch and leave only enough zoanoids there as a distraction and move to a more secure location in order to build up more power in order to combat the warrior units.

[McAvoy]

That may be true. (Warrior) Guyver 2 might not have died and Sho might have been killed. It all depends what kind of damage the control medal sustained, and if he could bio boost would he be in the Powered Down mode. Would he know there is a difference between the Powered Down mode and the full power? I think the battle definitely might not be as one sided as before, if this was the case.

Though Guyot would be in serious trouble if he were to stand up and fight Warrior Guyver 3 in their first encounter.

[*zeo]

How about a new scenario... As you know the updated information from the Manga has shown us that the Gigantic is more powerful than originally thought, the consequence of this is also that the Zoalords are also more powerful than originally thought.

So if we consider the Gigantic a 5x character with 20x power attacks, then the Zoalords are 3-4x and also capable of extremely powerful power attacks...

[McAvoy]

I was waiting for someone to bring that up.

Depends on how powerful the Warrior Guyver unit is compared to the Gigantic, honestly. But even if we use the older stats, it is well worth stating that even with those stats they are still much more powerful than a standard Guyver. The Warrior Guyver adpative ability and unlimited stamina would prevent some of the events in the early part of the manga from coming true. Guyver 1 being defeated by Enzyme 1 and Enzyme 2 wouldn't do as much damage as before. Guyver 3 would have killed the Hyper Zoanoid Team Five on their frist encounter because he wouldn't have ran out of energy, and there is always the possbility of Gaster's missile not doing as much damage if none at all. Thancrus's blades would have been cut and Darzerb would been killed outright with his strength (60 men as opposed to 100 men as previously thought) being less than 1/6 of the Warrior Guyver unit.

[*zeo]

Basically put WG in the same class as a Zoalord with HSL for Chronicles. The Gigantic will be a bit more powerful, just with less stamina, and the Giga Smashers can actually destroy a WG now.

But the Zoanoids will remain the same, with some a bit less powerful. So yes, Hyper Zoanoid Team 5 would be slaughtered. However, Chronos would probably have escalated their hyper zoanoid development in response to the greater Guyver threat. So it could have been Hyper Zoanoid Team Platoon!

[McAvoy]

Well, even then it would be difficult for the Hyper Zoanoid Team Platoon....

It would be interesting how it events would turn out. I doubt therew would be the Warrior Gigantic. The two Warrior Guyvers would simply teleport (control medals) into hyper space after Alkanphel (if he can) warps their mega smasher beams back at them. Therefore leaving the War Relic at the mercy of the mega smasher beams. It is unknown whether or not the War Relic's own control medals can teleport themsevles into hyper space.

Then there is the possbility that Alkanphel might be killed by the two Warrior Guyvers. It was stated twice by Kron that two Warrior Guyvers or a Kavzar Commander can kill Alkanphel before he became Warrior Alkanphel.

Guyot would definitely be in trouble if Warrior Guyver 3 is a Type 1 unit as well.

[WarriorZoalord]

Depends if you can activate such abilities that would take you away from commanding the relic without delinking yoruself with it.

[McAvoy]

Well, it was always a big question for me whether or not War Relic (or WG2 creator ships) control medals teleport into hyperspace if they are about to be destroyed. It would be a tactical advantage. You would have an incedibly hard time destroying their soldiers but their fleet as well.

Warrior Guyver was physically linked up his War Relic which would explain if this is true why the War Relic's control medal didn't simply teleport. But then again either WG or the War Relic's control medals teleported into hyperspace. I think it was the War Relic since Warrior Guyver's control medal was a little busy linked up.

Of course, considering how much difficulty the Supreme Zoalords had with the Gigantic Guyver and even with the Warrior Guyvers earlier on, a Gigantic Warrior Guyver would simply dominate. Much like how Dreadnought did in F-WG's universe, the only difference is that Alkanphel wouldn't have a Matrix to heal himself.

Though the Zoalords could get desperate enough to waken up Kron or Zeugma.