McAvoy Posted March 7, 2008 Posted March 7, 2008 The interesting thing is that Aceaer Marine died in the second battle where as Faye had her unit damaged in the first battle. So if Faye died she would ahve died as Aceaer Female. But anyway, like I said we know what the events are. When Twlight Guyver goes back in time he only knows up to 3 days in the future so in honesty he wouldn't know that by saving AM, he might in long run end up having someone else killed. Quote
*zeo Posted March 7, 2008 Posted March 7, 2008 Maybe but the fact remains it would have been a worse time line and Dreadnought and W'Kar would be technically immune to the time shift and realize time had been altered. Quote
McAvoy Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 Probably, but would they even bother to look it up see what events might change from their perspective of only three days? W'Kar could probably care less about saving a weak person like Aceaer Marine, but it would matter alot to Dreadnought. It won't be the first time that Jason put his feelings ahead of what might potentially be a very, bad mistake. Quote
*zeo Posted March 13, 2008 Posted March 13, 2008 Greg, maybe not, but Dreadnought wouldn't have to look up anything. He'd know flat out that time had been altered! And having Faye dead and Stephen alive would definitely get him involved. Though all that is completely besides the point it would be a worse future, and you don't need to be Enstein to figure out what could go wrong. Never mind no one ever said changing history would be easy. Quote
McAvoy Posted March 15, 2008 Posted March 15, 2008 Would Faye really die though? Being Aceaer Female she would be paired with the non-Warrior Guyver types and chances are she would not be part of the main fighting force for the ACTF. Even then when everyone is fighting Eliminator she could have stayed with Elera to protect her. The point is that she may or not may die. Stephen Cain as a Warrior Guyver Marine might do better or worse than Faye did in her place. If we judge his skills on how well Warrior Guyver 2 has performed, then it may not make much of a difference. Warrior Guyver 2 has put himself in bad situations before. Dreadnought may know the timeline has changed, but would he really look into it? I highly doubt he knows everything there needs to know about the past. Quote
*zeo Posted March 16, 2008 Posted March 16, 2008 Sorry but if Stephen AM had not died Faye would indeed have died instead, I'm one of the writers remember? I know this for a certainty. And all Guyvers are part of the main ACTF fighting force. Faye is a natural born warrior, she would always head to where the fighting is. Stephen on the other hand would have been taken out by Drano just like Zeus was and may not have handled WG Vamore as well either. All of which is still beside the point that it would be a worse future and it doesn't matter whether TG would have known it or not. It was part of the concept of the character from the start that his temporal abilities won't be a solution to all his problems. It's why it says plainly on his poster that he is both blessed and cursed! The failure to save his parents being the first example and there would have been more by the time he would have reached the battle that AM died. Quote
Resurrected1 Posted May 20, 2008 Posted May 20, 2008 I've read the Twilight guyver fanc-fic and I thought it was pretty good. I know it didn't get past the first part to really go into anything further, but it was well written (minus some small typos). I would've liked to see more go into it but I can understand the writer dropping out, I mean sometimes you just have a lot of time. I would like to think that if he did continue he would have been able to link up his story with the warrior guyver fan-fic better, but who knows. In any case, I'd like to see stats on a completed temporal unit. That would be awesome to see, and maybe even a complete unit with warrior tech added to see if it would be close to matrix warrior guyver. James o you think you could give us some estimated stats? That would be mad awesome, man. Quote
*zeo Posted May 21, 2008 Posted May 21, 2008 Sure, I'll see about getting it together this weekend. Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted May 21, 2008 Author Posted May 21, 2008 Yeah, I always wondered what the finished unit would be like, since Twilights unit was a prototype, one wonders how hard to kill the super one would be. Quote
Resurrected1 Posted May 21, 2008 Posted May 21, 2008 Thanks James. Man I can't wait to see what'll look like it. Twilight has some skill but a full units gotta be kick ass. I mean a three day limit can only get you so far, but how far can a complete go, and what advancements would be needed to be as powerful to have free range of time like Hiro Nakamura? Of course the huge difference between the two is a system that can be explained rather than a simple genetic trait, but still, the same premise. Oh the weapons have to be awesome as well. You know this. Quote
*zeo Posted May 25, 2008 Posted May 25, 2008 Well, don't have time to post the whole thing in detail but here are the highlights... Age would have been about 22 when he completed the unit by defeating and assimilating components from the other prototype units. The completed unit would have an enhanced Tri-CM that would contain a temporal singularity that would channel its energy to 12 amplifiers throughout the armor that would replace the 8 temporal field generators. Temporal Field would work with the normal bio-boost power system and increase it to the point that TG would have the strength of 400 men and virtually limitless stamina since he drew energy faster than he uses it up. Temporal energy could be used through head beam to either boost it to 20x normal or channel a focused beam of temporal energy that would manipulate the flow of time for target, meaning he could make them go fast forward or go in reverse or put them into stasis. Pressure Cannon is still 4x but temporal energy can be channeled to the point it produces an Entropy Cannon, basically everything it hits decays instantly to dust/subatomic particles. Mega Smashers are boosted to a full 2x but temporal energy further disrupts target mass and spreads them across the whole of time even as the smasher disintegrates them. So even targets resistant to that level of mega smasher would still get destroyed unless they are also able to resist getting spread across time. Speed, temporal enhancement becomes perminent so he can run up to about 6000 MPH and fly up to 7500 MPH. Hyper Time still present and is enhanced with hyper time perception that allows TG to see into the past and future for up to a minute. In the extreme TG could explore possible time lines to see which choices will work and which won't. Sonic Busters are enhanced by phasing them out of phase with normal time, allowing them to be tuned past an opponent's shield or timing them to appear where TG knows the target will be, freeing him to do something else at the same time. Swords are temporal energy enhanced so they can slice through anything that can't shield against dimensional based attacks. The forward swords can be used to slice time portals into the air that TG can either jump through or use against opponents. Durability: Temporal Phasic Bio-Armor is basically indestructable unless attacked by something that can effect the flow of time such as a Zoalord Black Hole Attack but Temporal Energy allows for regeneration up to 100 times faster than normal and even if the temporal field is penetrated the armor can still withstand up to a Mega Smasher level attack before taking damage. Temporal Energy can be focused into a multiphasic shield similar to the Gigantic's Barrier. Temporal Energy could also be channeled through fists and kicks to effect targets, for example time freezing someone and then switch to swords to finish them off. Or Augmenting the momentum boosters to produce 40x instead of the normal 10x momentum increase per blow. Temporal Field Matrix is enhanced to 6 dimensional fields instead of just 5 and allows TG to freely move through time and parallel time, the only danger is it is fairly easy to get lost in all the possible time lines. And if he changes anything it will only create an alternate time line. Quote
Resurrected1 Posted May 25, 2008 Posted May 25, 2008 Damn! Even without a lot of detail TG would be one bad ass dude. Man, I wish Jason would've kept writing to see that happen. So awesome ::drools at emmense power:: Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted May 26, 2008 Author Posted May 26, 2008 wow, by the look of it, he coulda given any WG unit a run for its money, though I wonder how the matrix would affect him with its quantum powers. Quote
jedi-guyver Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 I thought people might appreciate this. I took what Zeo said about the full fledged Temporal guyver and combined/edited the existing TG df. -Physical Strength: The unit’s Temporal Field works in conjunction with the normal bio-boost power system and grants the subject the physical strength of 400 men and virtually limitless stamina since he draws energy faster than he uses it up. -Speed: As a result of subject’s permanent temporal enhancement subject can run at a top speed of 6000 MPH and fly at a top speed of 7500 MPH. Subject can also enter a state called Hyper Time, a form of time that exists outside of normal time. To the subject time would appear to have stopped around him, while an outside observer would, if they are able to detect the subject at all, would see or sense the subject move, wraith like, at near light speed. This is a temporal dimensional effect and considered more a form of teleportation than true super speed as subject cannot interact with objects in normal time until he returns to normal time. Subject is also enhanced with a hyper time perception that allows subject to see into the past and future for up to a minute. In the extreme subject can explore possible time lines to see which choices will work and which won't. Reflex speed is 100 to 2000 times normal. -Durability: Temporal Phasic Bio-Armor is basically indestructible unless attacked by something that can effect the flow of time such as a Zoalord Black Hole Attack but Temporal Energy allows for regeneration up to 100 times faster than normal and even if the temporal field is penetrated the armor can still withstand up to a Mega Smasher level attack before taking damage. Temporal Energy can be focused into a multiphasic shield similar to the Gigantic's Barrier. -Temporal Energy Field Matrix: Subject's Multi-Temporal Phasic Tri-CM contains an artificial time singularity that the unit channels temporal energy to its twelve dimensional field amplification generators that envelopes subject in a self sustaining 6 dimensional energy field that allows subject to freely move through time and parallel time, the only danger is it is fairly easy to get lost in all the possible time lines. And if he changes anything it will only create an alternate time line. Temporal Energy could also be channeled through fists and kicks to effect targets, for example time freezing someone and then switch to swords to finish them off. Or Augmenting the momentum boosters to produce 40x instead of the normal 10x momentum increase per blow. -Infrared Laser Orb: The unit’s Temporal energy can be used through head beam to either boost it to 20x normal or channel a focused beam of temporal energy that can manipulate the flow of time for target, meaning he could make them go fast forward or go in reverse or put them into stasis. -Pressure Cannon: Subject's gravitational powers are four times greater than a standard unit but temporal energy can be channeled to the point it produces an Entropy Cannon that instantly decays everything it hits to dust /subatomic particles. -Temporal Smashers: Subject's can generate a blast 2x more powerful than a normal unit, but temporal energy further disrupts target mass and spreads them across the whole of time even as the smasher disintegrates them. So even targets resistant to that level of mega smasher would still get destroyed unless they are also able to resist getting spread across time. -Vibrational Swords: Subject has a standard pair of retractable elbow swords but are enhanced by temporal energy so they can slice through anything that can't shield against dimensional based attacks and are nearly indestructible. The forward swords can be used to slice time portals into the air that subject can either jump through or use against opponents. -Sonic Busters: Sonic Busters are enhanced by phasing them out of phase with normal time, allowing them to be tuned past an opponent's shield or timing them to appear where subject knows the target will be, freeing him to do something else at the same time. -Hyper Sensors: Subject's sensory range have been estimated as much greater than normal and have been inferred to give host a wider range of sensory enhancements. The exact range of these hyper sensors have been estimated to be around 600 meters (~2,000 Feet). This ability is augmented by subject's temporal energy field, which allows subject to project his consciousness a minute into the future and/or past and grants subject a level precognitivity during battle. -Temporal Control Medal: The Units Control Medal is actually three separate CM's that co-exist out of temporal synch with each other, forming a multi-temporal phasic Tri-CM that contains an artificial temporal singularity that provides the unit with a virtually limitless supply of temporal energy. *edited by zeo to be more accurate. Quote
Resurrected1 Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 Hey you guys, I was wondering since no one has taken on the task of writing anything for Twilight Guyver, I was wondering if it would be okay if I took a swing at it. I read the first fic again and I have some ideas to change a few things and maybe even continue on with it with the changes implemented. Of course I would be taking it out of the attempted warrior guyver merger and merely go from where I though it would be good to start. If anyone thinks it's cool. Holla at me. Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted May 27, 2008 Author Posted May 27, 2008 Hey you guys, I was wondering since no one has taken on the task of writing anything for Twilight Guyver, I was wondering if it would be okay if I took a swing at it. I read the first fic again and I have some ideas to change a few things and maybe even continue on with it with the changes implemented. Of course I would be taking it out of the attempted warrior guyver merger and merely go from where I though it would be good to start. If anyone thinks it's cool. Holla at me. As far as i know, there is no warrior tech in any stage of the TG thing, I believe what Zeo Meant was he basically upgrades his units by salvaging bits and pieces from the other Prototype units to get to its true form. Quote
Resurrected1 Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 Oh sorry for the confusion. I meant taking the story out of he warrior guyver universe. Jason not go that far to get it even to the point where Twilight could interact with any of the warrior guyvers or other characters outside of Japan. Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted May 28, 2008 Author Posted May 28, 2008 Well, most if not all of the fic's here relate to the WG universe in some way, so if you took it out of the universe, they might not post it here and instead move it into the fanfic archives on the sight, away from the official WG stuff. Quote
*zeo Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 I have no problems with you picking up the story and changing it... It's a cool character and deserves a chance to be written about even if not in the WG universe. Quote
Resurrected1 Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 Id keep it in the WG universe but I think there is a lot of stuff that would need to be taken into considertaion there. The time line has to be kept proper and with things like that to take into account I don't think I could keep up with it. Yeah I've got two and quarter pages written now just for prolgue which just gives info on current fighters and a few current events. I'm about to get into the Wallas family now and we'll see where it goes. Hopefully I can do it some justice and continue Twilights story. Zeo do I mind if I ask for some help on a few things? I don't know exacly where Jason was going with it. Quote
Sully Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 I liked the character but to me it's more of a either 1 story character or something that needs to be wrote in a totally different angle to Warrior Guyver as the main ability of the character has wide ranging effects and a lot of repeat elements to the story. For me I'd never us the character because if I wanted to do a time travelling event I'd use Dreadnought and I already have enough characters to us. I've nothing against anyone who tries to write a story based in the WG universe. Quote
Resurrected1 Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 That's cool thanks for the say so, Brian. I may have some similar elements or ideas that have reared their heads in the WG Universe but I don't want to go too far into it. At some point if it happens I would like to have a cross over fic with one of you guys. All up to you if that happens though. Quote
largo Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 Heck I've done it myself. My fic takes place in the wg universe it even has a wg version of the twilight guyver but I will admit that once I started rewriting everything I'm thinking about changing my temporal wg's powers a bit she's a wee bit to powerful. Currently she even has an ability similar to Solufein which may be a bit much. So I'm currently unsure how I should procced? But I'm sure like all good things it'll work itself out. ^^ Quote
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