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I've never really understood this topic. I can understand the HSL is a more advanced power system than the Gravity Controller, but what I don't get is if they could create such a device why couldn't the Gravity Controller be updated more than it was? Surely, being a larger object than the Control Medallion it should be able to handle a greater level of power.

Anyways, what form does the HSL take in the CM? What section is it in? Also, if someone managed to like, dissect a WG host, could they find the HSL; if so, where would it be and what would it look like?

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When the HSL was developed we had only just seen book 15 I believe, and we had no idea about the Gravity Controller being a energy source. Actually we had more of an idea that the unit worked off of the host units stored energy, which is why the HSL was made to give the units an outside energy source.

With that information we have had to rethink many of the systems functions and such. We are actually still in debate to see how much will be altered considering the new information.

As far as the specifics for the HSL are concerned, James can answer that better. I can tell you that the CPM's are located in the forearms however.

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The HSL is derived from the Guyver's natural Bio-Boost process.

For the normal Guyver the Bio-Boost is limited to the time of activation, transferring a massive amount of energy from the boost dimension (aka Hyper Space) to give the unit the energy needed to both transform the host into the Guyver and empower them.

The Gravity Control Orb is basically a trickle charge system that keeps the initial Bio-Boost energy topped off by providing a lesser but continuous flow of energy from the Boost Dimension.

The HSL improve on this by making the Bio-Boost process continuous. But with so much energy there has to be a stop gap otherwise the Unit would just eventually explode.

For the WG the stop gap is the host body which is basically treated like a fuse, so only as much energy as the host body can handle is allowed to flow into the Guyver.

The Advance WG CM metal allows this process to be efficient enough, combined with the more advance armor, to allow the process to run at 4 times what a normal Guyver Bio-Boost could provide.

The HSL itself is not really a separate device but rather an effect created by the WG CM.

Essentially they gave the CM the same ability as the gravity control orb to tap into the Boost Dimension but it takes all 4 segments to make it work.

Previous attempt at developing the WG HSL either met with complete failure (V-WG) or only partial success (Battle Guyver).

This is also why the WG CM is capable of auto-escaping into Hyper Space.

The Gravity Control Orb though has no stop gap so the HSL technology could not directly benefit it but since a Warrior Guyver never needs additional energy because of the HSL, this means all the energy of the Gravity Control Orb is instead channeled to generating more gravitational energy for the Warrior Guyver.

This in turn allowed for the development of secondary systems such as the WG Gravity Shield and the WG2 CPM's.

Though like the Gravity Control Orb the CPM's have no stop gap so can only siphon so much energy before it becomes unstable, which is why they have a set power limit. While the HSL is scalable to the tolerance level of the host body.

The Warrior Gigantic's Triple HSL system, which is the host unit's combined with two from the Warrior Gigantic, further advances the HSL system by making the process more efficient.

The Warrior Gigantic essentially enhances the tolerance levels of the host as the three HSL's work together to create a tesseract type Bio-Boost energy matrix (basically means the Bio-Boost energy is spread over more dimensions so the energy intensity on the host is reduced), reducing the load on the host and thus allowing the Bio-Boost to operate at three times its normal limit.

Dreadnought of course has the Matrix which further improves the process and is the reason why Dreadnought is so powerful.

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So what you're saying is the HSL isn't really an actual portion of the Guyver but is an effect? For the Warrior Gigantic, are the additional two HSLs generated by the Gigantic layer of the CM?

Also, how is it that the host is able to use the HSL without the CM or some other focusing device to generate the effect?

I've always just found this concept odd since it's really seemed like the HSL is just some mystical, unexplained force that provides the Guyver unlimited energy but doesn't have a physical form, like the Energy Compressors and Gravity Gyros do.

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So what you're saying is the HSL isn't really an actual portion of the Guyver but is an effect?

Yes and no, the hyper space interaction is generated by the CM itself but is an integral part of the how the CM works so you won't see a seperate component for it.

To power the CM even a single WG CM segment can generate a HSL field. It only takes all 4 to create a stable enough HSL to empower the host and unit.

Basically the CM segments each generate their own dimensional coupling field as an integral part of their processing capability and is why the WG CM can shield itself, auto escape into hyper space, creates the HSL system, and how it has the resources needed for self repair.

As a side note this same technology is what leads to the more advance Creator technology that eventually led to the development of the Matrix when combined with a few other key technologies.

Not to mention that helps explain why and how the Matrix merged with Jason's CM.

For the Warrior Gigantic, are the additional two HSLs generated by the Gigantic layer of the CM?

Yes.

Also, how is it that the host is able to use the HSL without the CM or some other focusing device to generate the effect?

The key is the what makes the Warrior Guyver Organism different from the regular Guyver Organism.

The Warrior CM is not the Warrior Guyver's only enhancement.

As it states in the Data File the armor itself was integrated with CM elements and consequently the host DNA is also effected.

This is actually in line with some of the revelations we now have on the normal Guyver, such as the idea that the unit stores some genetic information in the cells of the host to help expediate the Bio-Boost transformation process.

I've always just found this concept odd since it's really seemed like the HSL is just some mystical, unexplained force that provides the Guyver unlimited energy but doesn't have a physical form, like the Energy Compressors and Gravity Gyros do.

It really isn't any different from how the Gravity Control Orb was used in the normal Guyver power system, it's just more advance and far more powerful.

As for being unexplained, it's only the dimensional aspect that makes it strange, otherwise it's just like any other power system like solar energy, etc. The Guyver just absorbs the energy and uses.

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Talk about intriguing questions there, Takara. Nicely put. Kudos to zeo1234 for the info as well. Makes reading & writing fics about the Guyver and its characters all the more exciting.

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Talk about intriguing questions there, Takara. Nicely put. Kudos to zeo1234 for the info as well. Makes reading & writing fics about the Guyver and its characters all the more exciting.

Tell me about OnyxPhoenix. Well asked Takara and very well put Zeo1234. That's why I love poking Zeo1234's brain, he gives damn good explanations...

By the way Zeo1234, what do you do, if you don't mind me asking? It almost sounds like you have an Engineering Degree in Biology, Chemistry, or another Science field. Just asking from the terms you use in your responses.

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Shenzon wrote:

not only that but a master degree in bio-boosted armour

Now, we all should've seen that one comin a mile away . . .

By the way Shenzon, which Creator's brain do you have in storage in your dungeon, hmmmmm?

Kudos.

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By the way Zeo1234, what do you do, if you don't mind me asking? It almost sounds like you have an Engineering Degree in Biology, Chemistry, or another Science field. Just asking from the terms you use in your responses.

Nothing so auspicious...

I work as a Graphic Artist, but have had an interest in science and technology since I was a kid.

A bit of an amateur scientist you could say, I've done my share of tinkering and I keep up with the latest discoveries and innovations.

In terms of the fan fic, I'm the guy who does most of the WG data files. As well as the research for all the real world weapons and imagined ones, etc.

So I've already thought through virtually every aspect of every character.

not only that but a master degree in bio-boosted armour

Well I have been a fan since the OAV was first made, so have been into all things Guyver for nearly 20 years now.

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