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Yeah that's true, but I would love to read a story of just mainly him and his quest to power. The fact that he has been growing or becoming more powerful, and still seeks more to match or surpass Dreadnought is interesting...

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Well remember that the site is based on the WG, WGC, the Nova Guyvers, Cyber Guyver, Angel, W'Kar, and Temporal Guyver as main characters. Putting Zues there would make it even more crowded.

Though if you think about it, if someone made a character story that would be different. But the big question would be is: would you rather have a main storyline story, or a side story with Zues? Most writers can't do that all at once.

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Well remember that the site is based on the WG, WGC, the Nova Guyvers, Cyber Guyver, Angel, W'Kar, and Temporal Guyver as main characters. Putting Zues there would make it even more crowded.

Though if you think about it, if someone made a character story that would be different. But the big question would be is: would you rather have a main storyline story, or a side story with Zues? Most writers can't do that all at once.

True, didn't think of it that way. His character is just so interesting...

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That is just what these sneaky guys want. They make the characters so interesting that you can't help but love them all. Shame on you WG.com Staff. To quote Brians mom "he is not the Messiah he's really a vewry naughty boy."

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Well, I mean it would be interesting. He is a fairly powerful character with the Zues armor and all. I wonder how he would handle a more powerful enemy than he is.

On a side note, he is only a 8x character but he has the integrated CPM working for him which is why he is around Valkryie's power level. If his unit was based off the true Gigantic Warrior unit, he would be at base 16x with a max. of 20x.

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So what was the Genesis project again anyway? I know if you take the namesake literally it would mean "the beginning", but what does it all intail? And why exactly isnt his gigantic unit as powerful as a regular warrior gigantic.?

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Genesis was an attempt to remake the Guyver Unit into a more powerful form. Basically think of it as a lab with all the equipment needed to make just about anything from scratch.

At the time the Creators had no idea about a Gigantic, since that is a result of the Guyver effect and was a random event.

Agito just took the knowledge he had gained from the Creator Solom, since he inherited Solom's WG2 unit from the WG2 universe. And applied it to the Genesis Project to give himself a Gigantic like Upgrade.

But this in turn was before Dreadnought and the creation of a true Warrior Gigantic. So all he had to base it on was his knowledge of the original Gigantic, which in the fan fic only provides a 2x power boost.

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Oh ok, you'd probably logically assume that since they knew about the gigantic for a regular guyver....and then along comes the Warrior Units and a warrior relic, a smart guy like Agito could have put two and two together and figure out the possibility of their being a warrior gigantic being possible. But i guess not.

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Knowing of a possibility and being able to build it are two seperate things. The Warrior Gigantic technology simply did not exist when Agito Created the Zeus Armor.

Also remember Agito didn't have access to the Matrix so had to make due with what he had on hand.

Besides which, smart he may be but a genius he is not. Creator technology is still far more advance than anything human made. So the fact he even knew how to use the Genesis project should be amazing enough.

And as it is the Zeus Armor is superior to a standard Gigantic, it's just not superior to a Warrior Gigantic. Though the Extra CPM's do help even things out.

Also the Zeus armor grants Agito some Zoalord like abilities which the Warrior Gigantic does not provide like Weather control, etc.

Not to mention the Zeus armor will only work for Agito so it's hardly like he got the raw end of the deal there.

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Is the relic still down there? Could he maybe return to it if he needed to? Maybe to apply what he's learned since then? Or maybe, he could be there now possibly, repairing damage done to himself during that last attack?

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I hate referncing GWOTG to WG but maybe something similar to josh happened to Agito we already know that some of Solom's know how was passed on to him but maybe more passed on then we think?

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Perhaps. The unit he is bonded to, used to be Solom's and therefore he has the memories of Solom. Perhaps he has learned how to access some knowledge.

Maybe if the place is still intact, he may return back there and tinker with his Zues unit again. Adding a few things here and there as he learns more.

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Yes. But Alkanphel's unit is entirely incomplete. In fact, it has been said once fully completed it will not be up to the same standard as a Warrior Guyver but just more powerful than a standard unit.

But does not rely on himself to do that, but Natasha, who is of course sort of busy at the moment.

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Yes. But Alkanphel's unit is entirely incomplete. In fact, it has been said once fully completed it will not be up to the same standard as a Warrior Guyver but just more powerful than a standard unit.

But does not rely on himself to do that, but Natasha, who is of course sort of busy at the moment.

Well, if everyone's suspicions are correct about Natasha, she'll be able to do more than just repair it when she's finished transforming..

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Doubtful as not even Dreadnought knows how to do this....he tried with Faye's unit and it got completely removed and sent to some place unknown. Plus we don't know how much of the matrix may have bonded to her or if it bonded at all. Those abilities may be limited...although it is possible with the warrior unit she may have access to some knowledge on the tech, similar to Agito.

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although it is possible with the warrior unit she may have access to some knowledge on the tech, similar to Agito.

No, Agito is a unique case since his unit had been used by a Creator before it was given to him.

The other units are all fresh and never before bonded to. So retain no additional memories for the host to access.

As for the Matrix, the one bonded to Dreadnought is part of him now and so its abilities are primarily tied into enhancing his abilities. So he is not capable of performing overly complex tasks such as upgrading a unit.

Only a fully functional unbonded Matrix is capable of that level of advance application.

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Just to clarify, Agito's unit has a memory store because it is a modifed version of what WG2 has. It was made to store memory of the creator that used and never intended that it would go on a human.

Basically it knows almost every Creator secret there is from the WG2 universe. Problem for Aigto is 2 fold.

1. Understanding what he's got access too.

2. The more advanced things, like building a Matrix while nearly impossible for him to understand would require him to live like a hermit for 10000 years in his Creator lab to update it to make a single Matrix has all items there are too out of date to make one.

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Just a question: if a Creator like Krullenar would get his hands on Agito's unit and bond with it, would he be able to utilize (sp?) the knowledge stored in it?

Yes.

Or if Agito got access to a Matrix.

Both are what I term "end of fiction" events though. Agito could build an army of Warrior Kavzar / other nasties using the memory store to give instructions to the matrix.

While Krullnar has access to lots of more modren Creator tech and would very very quickly understand what he reads.

Either or, would quickly end the power strugles in the story though. But does give you all an idea of how bad things could get quickly if one of the above happened.

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