Primitive Guyver Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 To all to think about. If two twin supreme master zoalords were to be teleported right after the big bang, or a W'kar around the level of what Greg Lucas was before anubis, or both. Is there any way that: 1. The supreme master zoalords could from a (Nova Guyver Link) 2. W'kar would attain God like Levels due to training 3. The master Zoalords grow in power due to training and time 4. Finally the big ? what would you think would happen? Quote
Sully Posted February 26, 2007 Posted February 26, 2007 One thing you've to consider. Would the mind of that being be in any way sane? As the shere amount of time it has to do through until it a single thing to comunicate with would be emense. Billions of years just to see a germ cell = one brain dead super villian. By the time life appears which it can commincate with chances are it would be a "good guy". Quote
Thunder Demon1472669266 Posted February 27, 2007 Posted February 27, 2007 And then, can it even communicate telepathically, or even verbally, is another part to question as well. Time can be a tricky issue. Well, it is tricky period. First of all, I assume you mean isolation, even after life begins. Though, how you do that is...darn near impossible I should think. Anyway, by the time a species becomes sentient enough to understand, it doesn't matter if the person trained or not. They would be considered a god anyway by the people, just because of the fact that he/she/it can do very 'magical' stuff. Given the current consensus of the scientific community, the age of the universe is somewhere around 13.7 billion years, give or take a few hundred thousand years. Back tracking a bit, from our time, our Earth is about 4.57 billion years old. About roughly a third of the universe. According to the timeline, Alkanphel was created roughly, 2.6 million years ago. Since the Creators were advanced enough to move from place to place where you traverse a great quantity of distance one way (in other words, they moved a hell of a long distance) in a relative short time in whatever way possible. Assuming, that their technological advances were about twice our pace, let's say it took them about a quarter of a million years from the equivelent of cavemen, to conquerors of space. So, that's about 3.1 million years ago. Now, let's assume that their homeworld's timeline looked vaguely like ours. You're looking at a guy who's twidling his thumbs for about 8 billion years. That's a lot of time to be sitting on your ass doing nada. That's also assuming they were in fact the first sentient species. In the end, you're talking about a really bad case of a rough equivelent of cabin fever. I would say space fever, but that just doesn't sound right. And, if everyone grew in power with time, I doubt a 1 million year old Creator would need much of a boost from a bio-armor. Quote
McAvoy Posted February 27, 2007 Posted February 27, 2007 This is an old question to immortality question itself. Through the mass of experience and memories would they really remember everything or have theat brief memory of 'years past'? Think about it, how much do you remember from even ten years ago? Not awhole lot, just key moments and some random stuff. So the big question is: are these zoalord's mind so advanced that they remember every little detail or would they forget what it's like so long ago? Me, personally I think if any of these beings would probably go insane since by nature humans are social animals, they need in some form another be with something they can talk to. W'Kar on the other hand, would over time evolve to his fully repaired form with all his powers and such. But would he be insane or would take a more 'good' guy approach? Or would he consder himself god? Quote
largo Posted February 27, 2007 Posted February 27, 2007 Personally I'd like to think who ever was to do this would be a few VHSes short of a complete series if you catch my drift. Quote
Thunder Demon1472669266 Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Me, personally I think if any of these beings would probably go insane since by nature humans are social animals, they need in some form another be with something they can talk to. Hence the 'cabin fever' comment. Oh, and it could also be stir crazy. But, if you're sitting on your ass for 7 and a half billion years waiting for a life form to be created, other than you, odds are, you'll be a tad insane by the time life does meet you. Quote
largo Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Seriously I be a bit of a hurmit at times but even then I still spend time on the board getting human interaction. Since being with my girlfriend doesn't count as she is something other then human because there's no way a human could nag that much. Quote
Thunder Demon1472669266 Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Wow. I really hope she wasn't leaning over your shoulder after you hit 'Submit'. I think I'd go crazy too. But, what the hell else is there to do besides sitting on your ass all day or training? That's gonna get boring real fast you know. You'd probably adapt by the time life showed up anyway, considering you're sitting there. You need energy somehow. And Unit's like the standards won't provide it for you. (Come to think of it, I don't think any of them will aside from Reaper, but if there's no life, well...) You'd end up becoming plant like with the whole photosynthesis or something similar. Even then, you'd probably end up doing an omni directional bit with the whole 'I can tell where everything damn thing is' tid bit, for oh, say half yocto yocto second considering the speed at the time of the big bang was like well, really high. It would be akin to: "Look mommy! It's a big bright light! Can I touch it? Never mind, it went bye-bye. Oooh, pretty lights!" No, seriously. In like 3 seconds, you'd get burnt to a crisp, armor or no armor. And on top of that, you're more likely to freeze to death instead of getting bored to death. Especially if the armor doesn't do much to protect you from the heat/cold. You're talking about sitting in something that's like -300 degrees F for 13.7 billion years. "Look Mommy! It's a giant popsicle!" Quote
McAvoy Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Not really. A standard Guyver may freeze altogether, but then again the moment something actually melts the Guyver popsicle he would be able to move around anyway. But Supreme Zoalords are not Guyvers and nor is W'Kar. He would have the most trouble with the coldness of space anyway. Quote
largo Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 *Largo rubs his face* Man did it hurt also I know what she is she is the incarntion of pure evil, but what can I do I love her, and well love hurts. But if the unit was a warrior unit it wound't be a problem. Also while he was waiting for life to come in to existence just because our universe came in to existance way back then doesn't mean that there aren't other universes that he could roam around. Also imagain the potenial for sciencetifc discovory one could do with all that time. I'd love to add more but my girls bitching at me to get my butt moving or she's going to be late for work so see yah'll. Quote
Thunder Demon1472669266 Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Largo, but assuming it's not a Warrior class unit, then what? And, you just don't write/say/do things that you'll get hurt for when the person is standing next you/reading over your shoulder. It's sort of common sense. And the scientists theorize the air was something like several million degrees just seconds after the Big Bang. So, yeah, you would fry. Even if you were frozen before. And again, McAvoy, assuming it's not? On a side note, the units have a temperature regulation? Quote
largo Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Well common sense has never been my strong point. I don't know about standard units but the warrior units do. Quote
McAvoy Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Well Guyvers can withstand extreme heat anyway. Darzerb's breath was 3,000 degrees. Also, Guyver's head beam is far hotter than your average naplam breath anyway. Assuming if these guys survive, yes they would be able to survive the 10 billion years (unless they commit suicide). Quote
W'Kar Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 There is one more variable to consider, would the unit survive that long? True, the guyver unit is a amazing piece of equipment, but so is a Corvette but it breaks down too. Quote
Juggernought Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 I don't really think that guyver units as a whole are completely immortal per-say...its more like compared to the creators the units are relatively young. To humans, they can't possibly percieve living that long. Guyver units have just never been heard of "dying" due to age. Quote
largo Posted March 1, 2007 Posted March 1, 2007 Well primitive guyver has lived for longer then a day so who knows how long the units last. Quote
Primitive Guyver Posted March 2, 2007 Author Posted March 2, 2007 Well I was actually thinking more of the lines of more advanc units. Guyvers i understand have a 20 min life cycle of oxygen, so even if they did get transported they would be dead before the cold even froze them. The w'kar i was thinking would make the host insane, but at the same time with his unit able to travel at near light speeds I was assuming who knows maybe he could explore space to occupy time such as XT has. With the supreme master zoalords their sheer power and mind I think they could remember the "past" and even strive if there was two to train and or occupy their time. TO be the best that ever live or who's something along those lines Quote
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