Is the WG's power level too high?

[TheGuyversWill]

That’s an interesting approach James.

I’d do it another way mind you.

I actually own the first run of the OMAC series (Do I love Kirby).

Completely different premise as far as stories go, but I still like the present day interpretation. Identity Crisis was insanely awesome, one of the better books of ’05 IMO.

I still want to see how Jason pulls this rabbit out of his hat. Hopefully it’ll vary from yours, if only slightly.

I’ll reveal my idea on how the Batman would handle Dreadnought after his.

As far as Onslaught goes, without the power of Franklin Richards, and Nate Grey, I think my end scenario would play out. His armor isn’t that tough, and Dreadnought would have the power to crack it. After that it’s just a matter of assimilating energy. Easy as cake

[largo]

I think Onslaught would at best annoy Dreadnought before finally being offed, but if he's anything like the Onslaught from the first Marvel Vs. Capcom. Wouldn't he have that uber annoying second form?

[TheGuyversWill]

A fighting game can never compare to the real deal.

I mean how can you right?

You should check out some back issues at your local comic shop! The story rocked.

[largo]

But does Onslaought actually have a mulitiplu forms?

[TheGuyversWill]

Yeah.

He changes form throughout the series as he picks up more powers. When he gets the powers of Franklin Richards he drastically changes his appearance.

[largo]

So there really is an uber sized Onslaught, Sweet!

[TheGuyversWill]

So there really is an uber sized Onslaught, Sweet!

Yup.

Here are the most predominant forms.

Edited January 5, 2007 by Guest

[largo]

Sweet! but the second picture. I. can't. see. it.

[TheGuyversWill]

Does that one work for you?

And where is Twilights reply to this one?

Jason... Where are you?!

[largo]

Yah now it works that's the form I was thinking of now that for would give Dreaddy a serious run for his money.

PS Twilights name is James?

[*zeo]

No Twilight is Jay, I'm James.

[largo]

Oh, only asking because the names james to so yah know it's kind of cool knowing other people with the same name.

[*zeo]

Yeah, cool

(Steps stealthily towards Largo as he whispers, "There can only be one!" While pulling out a katana sword)

[Armageddon]

Yeah, cool

(Steps stealthily towards Largo as he whispers, "There can only be one!" While pulling out a katana sword)

This topic is getting quite interesting. I've never seen that second picture of Onslaught before. Awesome looking.

As for James, better brace yourself, we got a Highlander fan in the house!

[Twilight-Guyver]

Alright. I have moved most of hte stuff into my aparment and here I am on my parents pc for hte moment because Iam not going ot ahve a phone line until around august or so, so my posts are going to come at random times or at least while I'm at work. Any way.

I would think hte initial encounter between Batman and Dreadnought would warrant Bats to take notice of hte control medal. A few glows here and there would prompt him to realize that it is the core controlling all weapons systems at Dreadnoughts disposal. I'm sure that he would take a little beating but hewould be evasive enough to get away.

I would think next the Bats would do some looking up while good ol' Jason tried to figure out a few things wandering Gotham. Of course word of someone new would spread becasue Jason doesn't really keep a low profile when angered. Bats man come up with some way to eletrically short out the medal for but a few seconds giving him enough time to figure out just enough to come up with a better battle plan.

I'm sure at some point after about two battles that Bats would come up with either a combination of chemical, explosive, and voltage attack that he would use to try and obliterate the control medal completely. I would think that he may even come up with an exosuit to try and match strength if nothing else to hold his own. I can't tell you who would win because just stating all that has damn near fried my brain.

Haven't had a lot of sleep so it's all I got. Oh and yeah, me Jason. Me.

[TheGuyversWill]

Sorry if I borrow from others here, as I’m trying not to re-read your collective post at this point as to avoid refreshing your tactics in my mind. Hopefully this keeps everything as fresh as possible from my perspective.

Batman vs Dreadnought

OK, so this doesn’t go down that well for Bats’ at all. In almost every scenario the Batman gets taken out in less time than it takes to say, well then it takes to say taken down. That’s not the point of this little exercise though is it? We have to think how he is to survive and make his way through this world.

There is no perfect reason as to why Batman might attack Dreadnought, so let’s not dwell there. Instead let’s retreat to the idea that they just want to kill each other. Batman has access to just about any technology he can get his hands on, so...

Let’s imagine something like the OMAC’s plus any other automated robotic device out there would account for some of this technology. I mean you’d think by now Batman would have figured out a way to even take control of those Superman robots running amuck throughout the world. They’d surround Dreadnought and give him what’s what for all they had. I’d say they only have ten thousand of these at tops out there, but they’d be enough to bring Dreadnought to the brink of his energy reserves.

Batman would have used this time to get in touch with every single contact he could drum up in 30 seconds, finding out exactly what he was up against. I mean we’re talking multidimensional magician-ie types who would pin point the origination point of this menace who calls himself DREADNOUGHT. They’d relay the information to good old Bruce, letting him know every weakness the big blue has ever or will ever possess.

By this point Dreadnought is picking OMAC and Superman juice out of his over grown armored butt and trying to figure out exactly why he was attacked in the first place. The whole freaking JLA would show up wondering why he just took out 90 blocks of prime real estate in central Gotham, mind you they wouldn’t exactly be looking for an explanation.

The Batman then travels into an alternate dimension/time line where long, long ago there was a masterful being who had slain the mighty Dreadnought, with but a single Crystal. Some mystical magic lore about “He who holds this crystal will become all powerful and mighty indeed” would be linked to it of course. Batman would then break into the historical offices containing said relic taking it for himself and “Boom tubing” the heck out of dodge with the help of Scott Free (Mister Miracle you silly nanny’s!).

Turns out the device is some super advanced matrix used to slay Dreadnought in an alternate timeline after he had ascended to some form of extreme power and tried to take over reality. Who’d have thunk it!

We’d imagine by this point Dreadnought would be standing in a pile of super heroes, holding an awfully vibratey Flash in his clutches, pressuring him for information as to why he was attacked in the first place. Then low and behold Batman drops down from the sky above, holding this matrix and all tricked out in some extra Guyver-ish armor shouting out from the rooftops for all to hear “Al’Gaga’Mae’th” which in turn causes some radical and groovy lights to shoot from the before mentioned “advanced matrix”. This in turn shuts down the Dreadnought armor, and leaves poor old Jason O’Conner naked and shivering in a pile of unconscious heroes, dead OMAC’s, and disassembled Superman robots.

You'd expect Batman to shrug his shoulders at this point and say something like "That was easy." then simply disappear into the darkness.

At least that's my take on it.

[Twilight-Guyver]

Yeah I think that wa sa lot better than my lame way, with little to no back up to it. :: oh well. That's why I give little nothing , to hear the better side of things. Groovy thought pattern my man.

[TheGuyversWill]

Lets keep this going...!

Who else can we throw in the mix?

Let's try to hurt Dreadnought!

[Twilight-Guyver]

I'd say the entire planet of Apocalypse (sp), or maybe even Apocalypse himself and his four horsemen. Though we know that wouldn't go to well for the horsemen all together. What do you think?

[TheGuyversWill]

It's Apokolips for the planet. A phonetic spelling. Weird huh?

I don't think Apocolypse and his four horsemen would fair well against Dreadnought, or for that matter a Warrior Guyver. He's just not the ultra powerful type. I mean there is a reason his main foes are X-Men. That rag tag bunch just doesn't have what it takes to take out a true super heavy weight.

The Entire planet of Apokolips on the other hand... Darksied is a God.

Someone else run with this. Come on, give Dreadnought the fight of his life! Make him Granny Goodness' b*tch!

[largo]

Spawn maybe?

[*zeo]

Dread would have more problems with a Green Lantern.

Maybe Thor, a good Mjolnir strike to the trusty Matrix CM and bye bye Dread. Course Thor would probably get devoured by the Rogue Organism afterward so it would be a peric victory.

[Armageddon]

What about shards of the Matrix that were left over? Would they do nothing or bond with someone who came by?

[TheGuyversWill]

Dread would have more problems with a Green Lantern.

Maybe Thor, a good Mjolnir strike to the trusty Matrix CM and bye bye Dread. Course Thor would probably get devoured by the Rogue Organism afterward so it would be a peric victory.

I don't think Thor would be able to score that strike. The first rule to being a Guyver is "Protect your CM." This being said, there's no way Thor is getting close enough to nail the CM dead center. he might be able to get off a mystical strike of lightning or two, but Dreadnought has never shown to be vulnerable to magic in a major way. I think he'd have the chance to at least block one or two of these shots.

Thor might be a god, but the concept of god varies from culture to culture. We could look at Thor as more of a Zoalord, a being who is beyond the culture of humanity to the point that we worshiped them in an earlier age. I think Dreadnought can block a mystical lightning strike. There are enough tricks in the rest of Dreadnought's bag to make this interesting.

Anyone else got any ideas on this?

[*zeo]

Even though I said it jokingly, I'm shocked!

You have documented examples of Dreadnought encountering magic of any kind?

How do you know he would be immune to it if he has never encountered magic before?

Really, it's a general rule in most stories that magic tends to bypass science and technology unless it is extremely advance. And as powerful as Dreadnought is his powers are all based on science.

And it's not like Dreadnought never got hit before. So I think you're dismissing that one too quickly.