Guest Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 You know it just occured to me Dreadnough can gain more power with out some kind of new gigantic like modual. Remember the Crystals that enhanced Zarfel, and Wynd just think if Dreadnought had 1 or 2 of those he would become an 80 to 100 times character easily. Now I know I will get a big fat "no comment" from buzz kill Brian, but I suspect that this may happen in the future. And no these Crystals are not Matrix shards, these crystals have yet to be fully explained. All that is apperant about them is they grant immense power to beings that are fused with them. Oh and for those of you new to the board Wynd is a Nova Guyver character read that series through and you will have a better perspective on what I am talking about.
guyverfanatic Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 I personally doubt it. THe unit won't allow its host to be altered by absorbing these gems of power. I think this would be better, for say.... Alk.
Kamui de' Tempest Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 i'm still not very clear on what crystals your talking about. Can somebody explain.
Guest Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 Guyverfanatic Wrote: I personally doubt it. THe unit won't allow its host to be altered by absorbing these gems of power. I think this would be better, for say.... Alk. Are you thinking in terms of the Crytalite infection, because that is not what I am talking about. Anyway as long as the mutation is not harmful to the host or unit the mutation should be allowed. Remember the crytals alter everything from the unit to the host. Though simalar to the crytqalite infection it is not the same. After all Zarfel and Wynd were no diffrerent mentally after they absorbed the crytals. Plus Zarfels form was pretty much unchanged after absorbing the crystals he just became honking powerful.
xtro guyver Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 Well so far we have only seen the crystalls effects on a normal human and a Zoalord, it is most likly a guyver like dreadnought would reject them, just as a guyver would reject its host becoming a zoanoid. Even if they could upgrade dreadnought it would never happen as Brian has no intention of upgrading his ablities. Now a more interesting thing would be if Kron or Destrol got hold of the crystals and was able to upgrade there power with them as they are two powerful Zoalords already
McAvoy Posted May 7, 2004 Posted May 7, 2004 Unless the crystals themsevles actually do more than the Matrix can in terms of boosting Dreadnought's power, then I'd say no. If let's say Alkanohel absorbed them, he would be a in the same range as a Guyver Zoalord. Assuming of course Zarfel was a 4x character when he absorbed them, and they're not an addition to his power. I wonder if they do more than boost his power, but also adds more abilities. For all we know, Zarfel could had some of those powers before and the crystals merely boosted them. If the above is not true, then Alkanphel with the power of a 200x charatcer, would have psionic abilities far above anything in the WG fanfic. Even as an addition Alkanphel would have a 56x power level. That's if he can accept them. Same goes for Dreadnought if he could accept them.
Kamui de' Tempest Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 couldn't Dreadnaught just have the matrix activate inactive abilities in his unit, like the Darmon Backup or enhance the WG type 1 specs to a type 2 or 3. just wondering?
*zeo Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 Let's see... Mystery crystal like stones, hmm, "No Comment" But I can say they have nothing to do with Darmon crystals or Matrix shards... Xtro Guyver, there are other examples of these crystal/stones in the fic Upgrading Dreadnought...clarification... The only way for Dreadnought to be upgraded would be for Jason to give up his humanity and become something other than fully human. So no, it's not going to happen. Upgrading Alkanphel...possible but we already got plans for him, and the mystery crystals/stones are not as simple as they may presently appear. Kamui de'Tempest, the Darmon Backup is only for backup. Dreadnought's primary power systems already keep him at peak power and again altering him would sacrifice some of his humanity. As for the WG types there is no type 3, unless you are confusing the MII enhanced WG units for a third type? The difference between type 1 and 2 are simply of specialization. They are otherwise equal in raw power and technology. WG2's only seems more powerful because defensive shield power was sacrificed for offensive, CPM's, firepower. For Dreadnought the Power Wave ability already surpasses both unit types energy handling abilities so his abilities have already been enhanced.
guyverfanatic Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 Upgrading Alkanphel...possible but we already got plans for him, and the mystery crystals/stones are not as simple as they may presently appear. Sweet... I guess we will eventually see how these crystals affect (or is it effect ) Zarfel.
Guest Posted May 23, 2004 Posted May 23, 2004 Hmmm, Zeo said something very interesting. To alter his unit further Jason would have to start giving up parts of his humanity each time he does so, or to the extent of the changes. I wonder could Jason end up as a bad guy if that were to happen???
Guest Posted May 23, 2004 Posted May 23, 2004 I've kind of heard all this what if so and so became more powerful by such and such before, and it's usually the already most powerful guys. I think the real question should be is there a reason why they should become more powerful, I mean is it going to make the story progress in a better way if they do or is it just for the simple fact of wanting to see it done
Sully Posted May 24, 2004 Posted May 24, 2004 Dreadnought will never gain more power. He is already at the limit allowed.
McAvoy Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 Dreadnought would have to become a zoaform in order to gain more abilities and power. On the other hand, he would have to encounter something far more advanced than the Matrix itself to become more powerful if he somehow copies/merges with it. There is case in point in a certain story in another dimension...
guyverfanatic Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 Dreadnought would have to become a zoaform in order to gain more abilities and power. On the other hand, he would have to encounter something far more advanced than the Matrix itself to become more powerful if he somehow copies/merges with it. There is case in point in a certain story in another dimension... The thing is the Matrix is the most technologically advanced thing in existence, so I doubt he could encounter something more advanced than a Matrix. Plus, I don't think Jason would let himself be altered by the Matrix so he could become more powerful.
Guest Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 Dreadnought would have to become a zoaform in order to gain more abilities and power. On the other hand, he would have to encounter something far more advanced than the Matrix itself to become more powerful if he somehow copies/merges with it. There is case in point in a certain story in another dimension... The thing is the Matrix is the most technologically advanced thing in existence, so I doubt he could encounter something more advanced than a Matrix. Plus, I don't think Jason would let himself be altered by the Matrix so he could become more powerful. Would the Matrix give him a choice? Doesn't the Matrix have an A.I.?
*zeo Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 Yes it would give him a choice, it is after all ultimately a tool and will do only what he wills it to do. And no McAvoy, Jason does not need to become a zoaform to become more powerful though that is one option for him. The other dimension example you are refering too did not make Jason into a zoaform, he is simply no longer human in that reality. There are more than one ways to lose your humanity. But like Brian said it's not going to happen so for any further discussion on this topic please take it to the fan fiction section. This topic is now locked.
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