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hence the reason why they went and created humans and then the battleforms the zoanoids as they were breed and made for war. like you said zeo that the guyver differs in formation and so it could possibly use how aggressive a person is to factor in how the unit looks, like sho when first activating the g-unit 1 isn't as frightening as akida (whatever his name is) when he activated g-unit and became guyver 3 as it is more hostile in appearance than sho's. plus it is also defensive as those spikes would keep people from coming close or hugging him? so those little red orbs could well be hidden like you said beneath the armour on the head as all units have the same equipment just not in the same numbers or places like the vents on g2 or the swords on g3. so the sensing orbs would be creating 3d images then most like sound will factor into it as bats use sound to see where they are going when flying. i would think the mega smashers were created be the cm as humans had such large levels of energy than the creators made a weapon to take advantage of this fact, and most like enhance the output for the other weapons. as the mega smasher releases such a large amount of energy at one time that they can't be used again until the energy used is replaced, sort of make the ms a finisher move when both orbs are used while they can use one and conserve energy for later. though i did have a weird though about a g-unit having extra mega smashers in the shoulders like vamore and gaster sort of like a back-up if the main got damage though it could be fired at the same time with the main only draining the unit badly maybe turning back to human form as the energy drain is that bad. that and what would a guyver having gasters missiles be like better for one but how much so and how different in appeance as it would make the unit long range as well besides the mega smashers though more efficent in use than the ms. so a g-unit takes the human to it full potential so what happens with an extreme martial artists that bond with the unit or a saiyan would the unit take them to their full potential or only so far because it may not be able to or handle the level? though that would also beg the question if a new weapon would be made to take in the excessive amount of power they have compared to non extreme martial artists and zoanoids?

just been looking at the data files and i just thought of something which is how many of the type made by chronos in cannon are made from what was made by the creators and then some improvements added. those that are would the zxtole be one of those and if so wouldn't some of its and other abilities/powers have been used to make a new zoanoid though taking into account that some abilities/powers may clash, dominate or mutate and you end up with something either greater, the same or lesser not taking into account that you could lose one or both while gaining something new either as good as what was merged or lost then again maybe worse. as i know that enzyne series is chronos made but why didn't the creators make such if they knew how to damage the armour of the guyver? though how many are based from say records made in the nav orbs and Alkanphel remembered and such and which are totally new chronos invented. though could types like the lost numbers be attempts to recreate powers/abilities that were recorded but not the how it was done, plus chronos is make and improving on what it has found out via data form the nav orbs and trial and error. like kinetic armour is that creator made or chronos? as if it was creator wouldn't they have used it on Alkanphel when they made him though it may fall under the above reasons.

hi zeo heres a question so from what i understand the humans are weapons platforms basically the protoform from which the zoanoids come from, then you have the g-unit that takes in this fact and creates weapons but it seems that all guyvers have the same weapons. you would think that the cm or would it be the booster organisum would work on weapons that either focused on strengths or making whatever weakness less. "in essence how flexible is the g-units programing in adapting to the host like with the examples below as above with what i said when worn by the creators they didn't have any weapons or if they did nothing like what the protoform human gained when worn so would it go further with each more enhanced wearer zoaforms or mutants?" (sort of just thought this up that went with this post and not make another one) seeing as how the unit enhance the user how is that done, by what i mean is that does the unit have a set level on which to enhance the user when boosted by x amount? and does it go up to a certain level like with a human boosted when compared with a zoanoid being boosted, or is there room for either to improve the abilities through training. hmm with that remark about pain wouldn't the cm control how much the user feels so that it doesn't lose their combat efficentcy but allows enough pain through to let the host know that they have been wounded and still are until it is healed, wouldn't that be better way for a combat unit like the guyver to function. i know this is a stupid question but wouldn't the sensors on the sides of the head of the guyver also act as ears or powerful microphones to pick up nearly all sound waves and such for the sensors, though if not then what about the small red orbs under the ariel thing on top of the head acting as the ears? considering a g-unit can boost a zoanoid to even greater levels than a standard human would a zoanoid like derzerb and zx-tole, derzerb with high level duribility and zx-tole with the kinetic armour which i am focusing on would that effect the guyvers armour. like making it even more harder/durible than when either zoanoid wasn't boosted plus a boosted human, if it does then other things like thancrus vib swords would either improve, stay the same or enhance to a far greater level and so on with other zoaforms. would this in the end if true mean that the g-unit will enhance any physical like superstrength in a human to other abilities? then would it also possibly do the same for mental power or other energy manipulation abilities like a zoalord would have his telepathy for an example. though from some of these questions dealing with a g-unit if say a mutant wore one would whatever power/abilities he/she has be enhanced by them or not? would it allow them to still be used, hamper or stop them from working like cyclops eye beams or mystiques shapeshifting? i know that these are a stretching it a bit but i would like to see what you think and others.

Hi it's been a while lots of things to do and such. well what my question is which may seem stupid but then maybe not is about the zoacrystals that are used it zoalords and in the creator army. are these created spersificly different purposes like power regulation, focal points of either the zoalord, zoanoid or what they are now used in the creator army, thus allowing the power or powers to be more controlled and focused. or created to enhance and/or focus one power like gravity, telepathy and electricity for three examples then again they look like they can act similar to a cm in some ways so in the end what are the zoacrystals and their potential use great and small as would the size matter or the colour and would/does more than one enhance or improve the abilities when used together or merged with a active zoalords main or other crystals. that and does it improve the cm on any type of guyver? well like i say it in a way seems like a stupid question as i am sure that in one of the data files or in one of the forum topics that zoacrystals have been touched on in passing but not fully lie the cm of the guyvers have been, but then like i said maybe some one has and/or i haven't read carefully enough in the data files but if any knows please put an idea, theory or some ok thanks.

so we have the standard CM then you have the gigantic and then the warrior but also a cm and zoa crystal. how powerful is the gigantic CM compared to the WG like is it half the power or one CM and a half? then how powerful is the zoa-crystal and CM merged? and would the person with that as the guyver CM be able to use a gigantic unit? then i know that the one attempt by solom to merge four different project failed because the wasn't enough processing power with only one CM. so he had to use four each for parell processing and for each merged project, that and making the CM to big would make it a weakness, so what would using a Zoa-crystal merged with the CM. or using four CM merged with four zoa-crystals would that boost the processing power? heck what would having more than the four CM in the WG do? as i know that for the Enforcer Kavzar has an additional control crystal to help regulate the power would having something like that improve the guyver power and abilities? just something i suddenly thought of, though the gigantic armour is more on raw power to a standard guyver and not on being like a sore thumb. while what been looked at the cm or secondary CM would allow for data and info stealing for whatever the mission is, though it would most likely fall under a prototype unit like the shadow g-unit for theWG project for stealth and data gathering.

its really just a thought as you have the shield over the CM in the WG so if they wanted to they could design a small mega smasher or something along similar lines though i wouldn't say it was as powerful as a full globe that is reveled from under the chest plate. but it would give a better chance of a quick fire option without showing the enemy the main or true mega smashers. as it takes time for you to open and charge them though i am not sure if its here or some where else i read that they could do a small charge with just one or both allowing for more use than just fully charging the MS globe. though i think the chest plates can be opened on there own with out using there hands but it takes alot of concentration to do so. though like you said it would make it a weak point in the armour so having a shield like the WG CM would help, though having something like the polymorphic vibrational blade material or something like it with high armour class but can move like liquid would add some protection. though i did read somewhere about using wormhole like ability within the chest plate and charging the MS fully or not and firing them through the wormhole so it has surprise and likely to hits more so if it come from say above or below catching the enemy off guard. though it would more likely be seen on something like a prototype wg unit as like you said it is a weakness if there isn't some form of protection like the chest plate over the MS globes.

well by this i'm trying to understand the how the zoanoid is created i do know they us viruses to change the person but how do they decide what abilities they have and form. like if the person has powerful telepathy or telekinesis and can control an element like lighting as Purg'stall can, would chronos or creators focus on enhancing that power and this decides the form? like if i were to use an example like jean grey or powergirl who has all those superhuman abilities, what would they focus on improving on and would they make the form humanoid or less. that and what class would they be made into like low-level, hyper, neo-hyper, zoalord enhanced hyper, proto zoalord, disciple zoalord, elite zoanoid or master zoalord. so basically i would be asking would the unique powers a person being zoaformed has would be the focus of the transformation and what the form they will take? though this may just be stupied and and be in the wrong section, but anyone with ideas or thoughts to point me in the right direction please do thanks.

from what i have read and understand the matrix has only merged with a damaged CM and with a relic CM while itself is also damaged. so if he did get a piece i am not sure how he could merge with it though it may not have the same level of power as the one jason has. though natasha may have the lion share of the shards even though the biggest piece was taken, these smaller ones may equal the large piece but not equal the dreadnought one. so agito may be able to do something better and such but not on the level as dreadnought as the piece maybe smaller thus have less abilities available to it.

i thought he destroyed the relic he got it from to stop chronos and anyone else making an upgrade for their WG or if possible the normal g-units. as he makes me think of someone who doesn't share power willingly, or any advantages he gains even though it would make the war with chronos easier and against the creators plus whoever stands against him.

thanks for that as i wasn't sure what the control medal was made up of so i thought ally because of the outer shell it has. so only a matrix can communicate with other tech because of the level of advancement it has as a quantum computer? what about if someone or the creators created a secondary CM that would do just that without damaging the main CM controlling the unit? not to be argumentative or such but didn't sho and other communicate with creator tech like the ships control medal, so wouldn't that be classed as computer language though it was through organic tech. though it does beg the question of whether or not a creator ship CM can affect changes on a guyver. like i know sho cm and body were damaged as well as the ship, so it protected him and healed as well as create an upgrade named the gigantic armour. so if a creator ship is not damaged and has enough resources could it not make a cacoon around the guyer and add new programs to the cm as it does also store the date on the guyver like weapons, regeneration and other such important and minor need items. by this i mean could it upgrade the guyvers weapons or sense and durability just to name a few, though if the ship is much newer could it not alos act like a mk2 upgrading station. so it could enhance the control medal, and in all this the ship CM stays where it is as it wouldn't need to come off to bond as the ships in all case have been badly damaged or destroyed like jasons though that was a war relic. do you think that is possible or not?

thanks zeo1234 as i wasn't sure like in my first post on whether they had a function or not. though would it be possible for something along those lines of them being MS or powerful lasers next to the GCO on the gigantic armour? as it would make having a MS level weapon already in the open though it may take time to recharge and could get damaged easily, but then the armour could have an option on using the HS (hyper smashers) or not. would that even work on something like a warrior unit or a unit built with this in mind? and thanks again for sorting out my question once again

i noticed that when the gigantic armour is used there are depressions either in the sides nearest the arms or in the middle like Ultimus has. these look like the control orbs i.e. CM or gravity control orb, though in dreadnoughts case it looks like his matrix. well i would like to know are these serving any purpose like a weaker mega smasher or a powerful energy or gravity weapon or they just look good. then do these orbs effect the opening of the chest plates for the smasher, that and maybe enhance the attack or not at all? yeah it does sound stupied but i noticed them and had to wonder what they did or not.

yeah i'm looking for the guyver ova opening theme or the part with the narrator that i think sounds like balcus talking about the creators coming to earth and soon leaving. does anyone either know where i can get it or listen to that please or if you don't know, if anyone can remember who the story the narrator talked about up till the music starts. i just need this for inspiration for some writing so i'm not sure if this is the right place to post this.

hi all i was wondering if someone would help with the control medal on the guyvers. i was watching the new anime series and i showed a scene in which the control medal acted on its own in response to sho wanting to stop a bullet, and the scene showed shos brain and tendrils connecting the two together. the scene looked like the CM either did the calculations and then transfered the info to the head laser to fire and move the head for the best angel to hit the object. well i understand that the CM monitors and controls the functions and the symbiote organism from eating the host. activating the weapons and regenerating lost or destroyed body parts or the body from stored host data. as well as not allowing the use of its weapons if the situation would leave the host unarmoured or severely drained of energy. and when the host is unconscious acts aggressively towards hostile target? so then would the CM be a very powerful cpu and basic AI in one small piece of alien alloy, how powerful and would it add to its power by using the host brain as humans i think only use 10% or so of the brains potential. if its a combination of both cpu and basic AI then with four CM like in the warrior units or enhanced how much more powerful do they become, as well as how much more advanced does the AI become as well. then also how come the CM can't be used to hack into other comeputers or is it because of how basic the AI is and that there is not wireless like card to do so besides creator technology. so if anyone can help or point me in the right direction to find out what i am looking for please do. thanks.

that maybe true for jason but we don't know if the unit is being repaired or not, with natasha she has the advantage of having studied and repaired damaged units. without something as advanced as the matrix so she maybe able to repair the unit either via the matrix or by enhancing the tools and understanding she has of the unit she is working on. so i would think that has to count for something then there is that med-guyver wonder if that can repair the control medal or not.

thats a thought really, wasn't dreadnoughts form created from him wanting to be more powerful and such than he was before as he did get his ass kicked by the leader of chronos. so natasha could influence her form less towards battle but alot towards survival of herself, improving and healing/repairing damaged units in use or dormant. heck maybe even reviving zoanoids from the dead like her husband along with purging harmful entities from organisams like aptom and crystallic. that is what she may become if jasons influence on the matrix was what brought the upgrade in the armour about.

not sure if this will make a difference but the guyver zoalord is this the one that received the weaker altered g-unit or a unaltered one. as if he did get the weaker one then his power level was 200x times, but well then lets say if he got the unaltered one so that would either be the same or it would be higher. what i mean is the 200x weak unit and normal would be something like 250, 300, 350, 400x something but then maybe i'm getting my wires crossed with the guyver zoalord jason fought and another one who had a unit made but weaker than the standard in another story some were.

yeah just went and hunted through the fic to find it, so is this the same circumstances as dreadnought though he had a war relic while she has? well i'm not sure is it a clan ship and is that more powerful than a war relic? heck the war relic he had was old so it may not be as powerful as the clan ship she is cacooned in as it is much more advanced than the ones in WG i think.

it just seems that Balcus has dropped off from the picture and going to someone who is referred to indirectly. as originally i think he was studying the g-units in the manga and the anime so i would have thought he would have some involvement with the research and such along side natasha. unless he is involved in something to damage or kill guyvers and the kavzar, or on improving something in the bio armour systems of healing and zoaform processing with the hard to make one. then maybe doing something like studying the cacoons so if they do enhance Alkanphel bio-armour or just inhance both Alkanphel and Kron he could duplicate it along side what is happening to natasha. though i thought the cacoon she was in hadn't been moved as there was no mention of it being taken was there? that or he is working to resurrect some of the lost numbers processing after the info has been lost as he did with enzyme. well thats what i thought really he could be doing in the background seeing he is the first and most loyal to Alkanphel

well i'm not sure were or if someone has asked the question but what has happend to Hamical Valcus. as i was looking for the stories that have him in or is he now dead? but if he isn't dead then were is his data file as i went looking for it to read up on him but didn't find it. was going to ask what was happening with wg natasha but thats been answered though i do wonder when we will find out if she has healed and has something like dreadnought with the crystallite abilities or died and the crystallite has taken over but now stable. still if anyone knows what happend to Hamical Valcus and his data file i would really appreciate knowing thanks.

thats interesting as the hybrid form of either two strains makes them high in regeneration to the point of having the heart destroyed and still coming back to life near a guyver or zoanoid level regeneration to those that have it. or all three strains though what that form would look like or its powers are unknown even with the two strains, though considering it has all three it could top the two strain ones. with it being onded with a guyver after looking at whats been said and thinking about it i would probably say that this guyver underworld would rank either under, equal or slightly above the zoanoid guyver. though with the different units about and depending if the user was one strain or two and then all three would also be a deciding fact i think. then with the vampire hybrid he had wings so would they appear in his guyver form like how he could retract them or would he have to have them out before calling the armour. then what would the wings gain from the armour?

so what you are saying is that the underworld lychans, vampires, corvenus and the hybird forms would be considered a zoanoid so wouldn't it be like a zoanoid wearing the guyver making the host more powerful than a standard guyver?

by the subject i would like to understand more on the mkII that is used on some of the guyvers upgrading them. does this mean that whatever the MKII comes from it uses the tech advancements to upgrade the unit. does it also try to improve what the host feels that it needs improving like the speed or hsl it does or doesn't have? so would the durability of the armour increase as well as other abilities? can't remember what stories it appears in but does the MKII work on any type of guyver like WG and NG? sorry i just forgot would it be possible for a data file on the MKII like there is on the other small items. if there is one where abouts is it please. does the the universe that dreadnought comes from the creators have there own MKII or not. though i would have thought i one or some of those AU the MKII would have or maybe it would be later upgrades have found a way to lesson or remove the psychic mind block the guyvers have to telepathy of the creators. the zoanoids well what would happen with those like in underworld that have mutated into a type of zoaform enhanced abilties and such. my question would be if they were taken some of them by chronos would there be some changes and experiments or would there be major changes and experiments to improve or understand and make a creature like them or the virus, heck would they even use the virus hybird on already existing zoanoids to see if there are any improvements. then would you say that the werecreatures like gold diggers that are made through use of magic a "magical virus" and were molded into their present forms. by this would they be classed as zoanoids by chronos or not, would chronos want to capture or kill them? can anyone help me understand this better.

thanks for that you lot that does help though for a one off it would be interesting to see how such a creature that was once a guyver and venom type symbiots bonded to a human would be like? maybe like the zygote with it dominating the host in some place or like something else plus what its powers be like. that is if it wasn't mk2 upgrade on the guyver then it wouldn't have athe limit on stamina i think. but now another question underworld had that virus that caused a mutantion granting for a price enhanced physical abilities and life span but for one can't go into sun light and the other has to watch out for silver. both need blood and then you get hybirds. my question is obvious in that would the g-unit correct the weakness, leave it alone or remove the virus. if it didn't remove the virus or it did removed the weakness would it enhance the abilities in armoured form or not? it just a thought that came to me after the writing about carnage being in the blood, so what would happen with a virus that gave positive to the body as well as the down sides.

thanks that does clear up some of my thoughts though i do wonder about the properties of the Venom symbiot as it could heal itself and it doesn't have a central node but maybe many. that is why i thought it would do the same with the guyver unit control medal so if there would be more than one while the one on the forehead would just be a fake as it would be part of a greater whole. all these little processors would still be equal to on c-medal just that it would not be all in one place. so unless it is under strange circumstances like being damaged and near a matrix or if the g-unit is a WG or something else there would be a very low chance of something new resulting. i really need an in-depth summery about the weapons that was why i asked as it left you having to look for what the energies did in weapons use or theories about it. on the swords it was something i thought about like it pulling matter of a target like the necrons from 40k gauss flayer. though maybe it used as a beam weapon instead of on a sword would do? though that is more likely on a wg or advanced guyver to have a energy flaying weapon. that why i said the laser was more a piercing and cutting while the plasma just pierced through a target, though both are very hot. i do wonder what sort of energy would continue to eat away at the target, like in doom movie the Bio force gun discharge continued to do damage to the area hit not sure if there was splashing as well. though maybe that was caused by the heat of the energy, just if a guyver had that type of weapon would it have replaced one or two others like the head infrared laser or be extra. maybe a project tile that stopped or froze molecules a molecular inhibitor, would that be more of a zoanoid weapon meaning they created. same with a wide-spectrum catalyst that cause complex organic molecular bonds to break down or other matiral to under go some type of mutation. as either used on a human, guyver or zoanoid would be highly dangerous and damaging.